Putting forth solid statistics to show that Sachin scores well in all league matches but always fails in knockout encounters. By Knockout encounter, If you lose, you are out of the World cup.
2011 vs Srilanka Final - 18
2007 vs Srilanka Knockout match - duck
2003 vs Australia Final - 4
1999 vs Australia Super Sixes Round - 0
1996 vs Srilanka Semi Final - 65 runs India lost - was not able to see through India Win
1992 vs South Africa Knockout match - 14 runs
Now tell me Sachin fanatics, is he a knockout match winner or not ? No doubt he is a great batsmen but not a crucial match rescuer.
Re: Re: Putting forth Solid statistics to prove my point for Sach
by Kumar Gourkar on Jan 26, 2012 02:38 PM
every team aim is to go out to win the World cup, not for just reaching the semi finals or finals and failing there miserably.
Re: Re: Re: Putting forth Solid statistics to prove my point for Sach
by Against Pseudos on Jan 26, 2012 02:39 PM
:-)... And how many times did England and South Africa achieve your admirable goal? :-)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Putting forth Solid statistics to prove my point
by Kumar Gourkar on Jan 26, 2012 02:41 PM
Remember Steve Waugh 120 knock against South Africa in the 1999 knockout of the super sixes to see Australia through. Remember Inzamam Ul Hag knock against New zealand in 1992 semi final..Those type of innings are Knockout match winners.. YOu still dont understand my friend
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by Against Pseudos on Jan 26, 2012 02:44 PM
:-)... Why do you consider ONLY finals? :-)
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by silver mani on Jan 26, 2012 02:49 PM
Against undies Steve Waugh and Haqs innings were not in finals.
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by silver mani on Jan 26, 2012 02:56 PM
Yes i do praise Sachin,the greatest businessman to play Cricket.His Sachins and Tendulkars are awsome.His london and States Restaurants are awsome too.
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by Against Pseudos on Jan 26, 2012 02:59 PM
:-).. And his Pre-final innings? :-)
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by Kumar Gourkar on Jan 26, 2012 02:48 PM
Everybody remembers only World cup winners, not finalists or sem-finalists
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by Against Pseudos on Jan 26, 2012 03:07 PM
:-)... So Brian Lara is more useless than Sachin and Ponting is now a forgotten entity? :-)
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by ASHISH KUMAR on Jan 26, 2012 04:19 PM
rembeer sachin knock of two back to back near century inning in final & half century in S/F which lead india to win last Aus triangular series
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by Kumar Gourkar on Jan 26, 2012 05:26 PM
Hi AP, you dont have any sense. I meant a knockout match where if you lose you are out of the world cup. Steve Waugh and Inzamam's knocks were in the semi finals which were knockouts
Re: Putting forth Solid statistics to prove my point for Sachin
by Against Pseudos on Jan 26, 2012 02:38 PM
Since you got automatic entry to all finals, we Must agree with you. ;-)
Re: Putting forth Solid statistics to prove my point for Sachin
by Google on Jan 26, 2012 02:46 PM
So how did we reach till the finals in 2003 and 2011, its like asking KBC host to directly ask 15th Question for 5 crore without bothering to go through process of first 14 questions
Re: Re: Putting forth Solid statistics to prove my point for Sach
by Kumar Gourkar on Jan 26, 2012 02:49 PM
Ok, then if we had Sachin play only in the finals or sem-finals, could he have won the cup for India ? Your justifications are moronic.
Re: Re: Re: Putting forth Solid statistics to prove my point for
by Google on Jan 26, 2012 02:50 PM
forget it man...u dont have enough neurone =s in your brain to understand wht I said
Re: Re: Re: Putting forth Solid statistics to prove my point for Sach
by silver mani on Jan 26, 2012 03:00 PM
Kumar have u forgotten Sachin two innings in the Two World Cup Final Apperances,he was awsome.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Putting forth Solid statistics to prove my point for Sach
by Against Pseudos on Jan 26, 2012 03:01 PM
:-)... Definitely better than Lara. :-)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Putting forth Solid statistics to prove my point
by ASHISH KUMAR on Jan 26, 2012 04:22 PM
But in all 3 wcup s/f he played match winning inning. also he played two match winning inning in final of last time Aus triangular series
Re: Putting forth Solid statistics to prove my point for Sachin
by Ideal on Jan 26, 2012 03:16 PM
So, how did india reach the final? As a sachin basher you should have a explanation for that too.. I am sure you will say you can't remember it as you would not like to mention his contributions. Be a sport. Agreed he has not had a good series (last 3 series are not good), but dont belittle the man. Its like your boss runs you down in appraisal for two mistakes even though you have done excellent work and top-of the rank contributor for your team all year.
Re: Re: Putting forth Solid statistics to prove my point for Sach
by ASHISH KUMAR on Jan 26, 2012 04:23 PM
well said ideal. But all sachin bashers are agent of dhoni with some political agenda. Also thire brain is less developed- so ignore their comments
a job well done by india. dont get surprise friends.match is going upto 4th day. pls be happy.Indians did not surrender inside 3 days. good achievement due to punishment given to dhoni and lucky chance well grabbed by saha.If not india would have closed by now.hope there wil b 5th day for this test match.
Re: well done
by Incredible India on Jan 26, 2012 02:11 PM
thanks to australia; if they would have given us followon then this would have been wrapped. May be they cared that we dont loose in our republic day.
Re: Re: well done
by Rajdeep Drohi on Jan 26, 2012 02:52 PM
@ Cricket Australia is making losses as 5 day matches are getting over in 3 days. Hence the 'strategy' by Australia not to enforce follow-on... :-)
Tendulkar completed his Mahashatak today and gave his country perfect gift ,oh wait,Hang on ,just reading the Scorecard,Sorry guys its Virat Kohli..Tendu has failed again..
Re: Re: Re: Perfect Republic day gift for India
by Against Pseudos on Jan 26, 2012 02:15 PM
But Kohli was interested in his 100 rather than India winning. No? ;-)
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by silver mani on Jan 26, 2012 02:33 PM
Against undies,so u r agreeing that Sachin scores Selfish meaningless centuries?u r spot on..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Perfect Republic day gift for India
by Against Pseudos on Jan 26, 2012 02:46 PM
Oh. So you like youngsters scoring Sachin like centuries?? ;-)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Perfect Republic day gift for India
by Against Pseudos on Jan 26, 2012 02:48 PM
Oh. So you like youngsters scoring Sachin like centuries?? ;-)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Perfect Republic day gift for India
by Against Pseudos on Jan 26, 2012 02:33 PM
:-)... So you agree that people score centuries to Win? ;-)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Perfect Republic day gift for India
by Against Pseudos on Jan 26, 2012 02:42 PM
So you agree that people score centuries to Win? ;-)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Perfect Republic day gift for India
by silver mani on Jan 26, 2012 02:52 PM
Except Sachin people TRY to score centuries to win.
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by ASHISH KUMAR on Jan 26, 2012 03:45 PM
only selfish in team is useelss dhoti. rest all plays for country. Dhoti has problem of lack of talent also not only politics.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Perfect Republic day gift for India
by ASHISH KUMAR on Jan 26, 2012 04:25 PM
even last ODI SA lost agiant SLK. both smith & deviller scored century. Ponting scored century against India in Q/F of 2011 wcup. aus lost. all ponting, smith, deviller are greedy. so sad
Re: Re: Re: Perfect Republic day gift for India
by Against Pseudos on Jan 26, 2012 02:40 PM
But Kohli was interested in his 100 rather than India winning. No? ;-)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Perfect Republic day gift for India
by ASHISH KUMAR on Jan 26, 2012 03:47 PM
mental asylum is in home town of ur political guru ji dhoti hi. So solid singh- u arefit for mental asylum
Re: Re: Re: Perfect Republic day gift for India
by ASHISH KUMAR on Jan 26, 2012 03:46 PM
solid singh - u look paid servant of politicain dhoti. thatswhy u are interested only in politics & regionalism. You don't have any interest in cricket or any logic thing
His 100 is proof enough that a youngster who's ability to negotiate short pitched stuff was questioned , worked at it & got going. Whereas Lachhu & Sacchu -the great have taken their places for granted. Another youngster with immense talent - Rohit Sharma is warming the bench beacuse of their refusal to acknowledge that they are no longer fit to rep Indian cricket. Wall , though has failed here , but his recent record against England in England is face saving. He has retired from one dayers anyway. But lacchu sachhu - shameless.
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by solid singh on Jan 26, 2012 02:11 PM
pseudo - the paid servant , what r u doing here in this forum. bathroom & toilet have yet to be cleaned. this is deriliction of duty. just like ur master you are not doing justice to the position given to you.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: kohli
by solid singh on Jan 26, 2012 02:22 PM
don't get rattled , pseudo. we don't mean to hurt somebody who is a fit case to go to mental asylum. so sorry if we hurt you
Re: kohli
by AdinGoyyale on Jan 26, 2012 02:06 PM
Now it s clear that Kallis and Ponting are far superior to the socalled highest run getter. Shameless selector dont have the courage to throw the big 3
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by ASHISH KUMAR on Jan 26, 2012 03:52 PM
But best is our great captain dhobiji who has avg of less than 20 after playing 7 overseas series.
Re: kohli
by Varun on Jan 26, 2012 03:16 PM
It is not that they have taken for granted. It is just that their reflexes are getting old now. It is time for them to move on to other roles outside the field of play.
Re: kohli
by ASHISH KUMAR on Jan 26, 2012 03:50 PM
why u are silent on dhoti ability to bat overseas. If captain himself is most useless & fattu batsman- how team can perform
is a greedy selfish DoooG....he is too focused on his 100 then giving the team a good score and that is how he gets out. His knocks all for personal glory .......
Re: 10dulkar
by LAKSHMINARAYANAN narayanan on Jan 26, 2012 03:07 PM
He is loosing his relexes due to age, it is not that he is selfish, if he is selfish he would have scored more runs if not centuries, Suppose for your aurguement if he scores century will it not lead to India Total?. Not only Tendulkar , whole team has lost confidence . The other two stars also failed Dravid and Laxman, that means all are selfish dogs.
Re: .
by vijay on Jan 26, 2012 01:04 PM
7. A doubtful stump out decision in the match against Srilanka in Colombo final when he was at 128. It was a 50-50 case!
8. Wrong LBW off Nash vs NZ in Hamilton Test in 1999 when he was on 67. The ball was going way down the leg side.
9. Wrong LBW off Saqlin Mushtaq vs Pakistan at Delhi Test in 1999 when he was at 6. Pitched outside of leg stump.
10. Controversial run out following the obstruction of Shoaib in Eden Gardens vs Pakistan in 1999. Surprisingly, the umpire Bucknor did not apply the Obstacle rule...
11. Wrong bat-pad catch off Shane Warne when Sachin was at 61 vs Australia in Adelaide Test in 1999
12. Wrong lbw decision of McGrath in Sydney test 1st innings when the ball was going down the leg side. He was at 45 then.
13. A shocking ‘caught behind’ decision by umpire Toffo in the ODI against Pak in Perth, 1999, when Sachin had scored 17... (the ball merely flicked Tendulkar's shirt (jersey) and went to the keeper & umpire gave caught behind. Scorecard
14. Wrong lbw off Shoaib Akhtar in Sharjah ODI vs Pak in 2000 when he was at 11 runs. It was an inside edge & then pad!
15. Wrong lbw decision off Abdul Razzak vs Pak in Dhaka in Asia cup ODI 2000 when he had scored 25 runs...the ball was going down the leg side & clearly missing the stumps.
16. Given out - caught off a No Ball from Gillespie during the 3rd test 2nd innings in Chennai, 2001 India vs Aus when he was at just 17.
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by vijay on Jan 26, 2012 01:05 PM
17. In 2002 WI tour 3 out of 4 lbws against Sachin were wrong - all given by Ashoka Desilva! LBW by Cuffy at Port of Spain test 1st innings when Sachin had scored 117
18. In 2002 WI tour 3 out of 4 lbws against Sachin were wrong - all given by Ashoka Desilva! LBW by Sanford at Port of Spain test 2nd innings vs WI when he was on 0
19. In 2002 WI tour 3 out of 4 lbws against Sachin were wrong - all givenby Ashoka Desilva! LBW by Dillon at Bridgetown test when he was at 8
20. Wrong LBW off Oram given by Ashoka Desilva again at Wellington Test in 2002 1st innings. The ball was going over the stumps.
21. Given wrong LBW by Bucknor at the Gabba test off Gillespie in 2003, where the ball was going clearly over the top. see the video from 05:16
22. Given wrong ‘caught behind’ off Brett Lee down the leg side in the MCG Test, 2003
23. Given wrong LBW off Uma Gul at Lahore Test vs Pak in 2004. Ball was missing the stump & was going way over.
24. A terrible ‘caught behind’ decision off Razzak at Eden Test vs Pak by umpire Bucknor while the ball was going miles away from bat & he was on 52.
25. LBW off Muralitharan at Delhi test, 2005, where the ball pitched outside of leg stump & batman was long stride when he was at 109.
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by vijay on Jan 26, 2012 01:06 PM
26. In 2005 LBW off Bandara at Delhi test when he was long stride forward & ball was going clearly over the top when he was on 16.
27. LBW off Dilshan in Ahmedabad test in 2005 when there was a clear inside edge. He was at 19 runs then.
28. Wrong LBW off Arshad Khan where the ball hit his gloves & then the pad after 100 in Peshavar ODI vs Pak in 2006.
29. Wrong lbw off Monty Panesor at Nagpur test in 2006 vs Eng when he was at 16 runs
30. Got a shocking LBW by umpire Toffo in Tent Bridge Test, 2007, vs Eng off Collingwood of a wide-ball outside off stump! The umpire apologized later for this. Sachin was on 91 then. The decision by Simon Tauffel who won the ICC award for best umpire for the third consecutive time, that year. Video -watch from 03:25 minutes
31. Last ODI of Eng series 2007 ‘caught behind’ by Aleem Dar. He realized that he made a mistake but did not change his decision. And the boastful explanation after the match was, "I knew he was not out. But i don’t have a habit of changing my decisions". Ex cricketers like Nassir Hussain had criticized this. Video -watch from 01:57 minutes
32. India vs Aus Third test he was dismissed by umpire at 71. He scored centuries in the second and fourth tests. Watch the video clippings - Lee delivers to Tendulkar; the ball hits on top of the pad; at the time of contact, Tendulkar is seen jumping in the air. Lee appeals confidently and umpire Rauf eventually raises the finge
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by vijay on Jan 26, 2012 01:07 PM
33. First ODI 2009 Srilanka Tour of India. Kumara Dharmasena's first decision as Umpire. Ball pitched outside the line of leg stump. Bowler - Thushara.
34. Second ODI Srilanka Tour of India 2009. In the next match. In this match, Sachin was given out while the ball was going outside leg stump. Bowler - Kulasekhara.
35. Third ODI Srilanka Tour of India 2009. Hat trick in wrong decision? In this match also the ball was going outside the leg stump. Bowler - D. Fernando.
(Video of Decisions 33, 34 n 35)
36. Australia tour of India, 4th ODI: India v Australia at Mohali, Nov 2, 2009. Cricinfo - "Hauritz to Tendulkar, OUT, tosses it up on middle and gets it to turn in, Tendulkar tries to work it with the turn but the ball clips the pads, it wasn't really adjacent to the stumps but umpire de Silva was convinced. Not a very straightforward lbw"
37. Wrong ‘caught behind’ decision off Flintoff when Sachin was at 99 runs. The ball kicked up from short of length and reared shoulder high. Tendulkar tried to fend it away, got his hands in front of his face and the ball gone off his arm guard. Watch video
And the worst thing is, these decisions will not be specified in the records and stats... and the critics will say... "hmm!! It is a part of the game..."
