Whatever it is, what finally matters is how the team fared. And we all know that WE, INDIA, HAVE LOST MORE MATCHES THAN WON. If there are greatest players like these in the team, then we should have WON more matches than LOST. So, that itself speaks of quality and greatness of players we have in the team.
Re: Great Players
by abidi musiur on Jan 21, 2012 07:44 PM
We must include Kapil Dev, Gavaskar, Chandrashekhar... the great players in the team. After that Indian team will obviously be the best in terms of the past records of players.
sachin is overhyped overarted player. he is just like any other intl cricketer. the kind of long rope & tenure he has got from BCCI , gavaskar , vishvanath , or for that matter steve waugh , gatting ,gooch , lara etc would have scored much more in 22 years of intl cricket.
Re: sachin Zak
by Nitin Bedi on Jan 21, 2012 01:43 PM
the greatness is that he lasted so long. He has always been in form. He has scored more runs than others even in bad form. This is proved by the fact that he has always been inside top 20 and 70% of time inside top 10 excluding injury time. Even now he is the best batsman India has and probably the top 3 in world cricket. This is true even if you conside only the last 2 years and not his previous records.
Re: Re: sachin Zak
by silver mani on Jan 21, 2012 01:51 PM
Nitin In 22 Years,Sachin is Man of the Match only once in All Indias overseas Victories,in 2009 against New Zealand.
Re: Re: sachin Zak
by solid singh on Jan 21, 2012 02:12 PM
dear Nitin pls see the record of runs scored by him in England & W C. Was he the highest scorer ???. Any other intl cricketer would last that long if he got an early start & infinity to exit.
Re: Re: Re: Re: sachin Zak
by silver mani on Jan 21, 2012 07:01 PM
Against undies,Some batsman getting out at predictable times is great!!For instance Two WC Finals...
Re: Re: Re: Re: sachin Zak
by solid singh on Jan 21, 2012 04:22 PM
who the ph()ckkk are u to ask me the acmnt. at least i know what my father & grand father did. in ur case neither u nor your mum knows what ur father did. perhaps that is why ur a coolie- left at the rly stn by ur mum for fear of being questioned on your father
Re: Re: Re: Re: sachin Zak
by silver mani on Jan 21, 2012 05:01 PM
IT coolie ,My grand father Achievment is that he slept with ur Grand mother,my father slept with ur Mother, and I slept with ur sister ,daughters.
For the loser media, mad fans & mad haters, this is a great topic for discussion, Sachin's ranking & position :) The series has been lost badly, team has failed so badly. But everyone is bothered about Mahashatak, or dropping him from the team...... :):)
22yrs, no triple hundre, no technique to avoid LBW dismissals against incoming,inswinging,incutting bowling esoecially againstt new comers,left hand bowlers,spinners
Re: 22yrs, no triple, no technique to avoid LBW against incoming,
by Nitin Bedi on Jan 21, 2012 01:49 PM
Wow - Did you really follow Sachin and/or any other crickter. He has changed his technique/style to suite his and team needs. He has adapted even when teams are studying his every move. All teams, all academies from under 12 to school team show their bowlers/batsman what he does. To learn, to find flaw. Inspite of this he has been great. He is one of the best ever. Not only the way he plays, his endurance, his passion, his down to earth attitude. All goes in making what he his. Should we compare to past greats. may be we cannot. Maybe Sober's would have done even better with the celebrity status crickter's get today, maybe Bradman would have cracked under all the pressure , maybe Tendulkar/Lara would have batted even better in Bradman era. Maybe Pointing would have never been a star if he would have been Indian and with so much fan pressure. I am sure you cannot with your limited cricket acumen. So just relax, enjoy and be happy being alive when one of the greatest crickter/sportsman is playing in front of you.
Re: Re: 22yrs, no triple, no technique to avoid LBW against incoming,
by silver mani on Jan 21, 2012 01:58 PM
Nitin Teams are studying his moves -thats why he is bunny of Swing bowlers and What pressure are u talking about,seems like Sachin is doing it for free or for charity.Once u will visit his Sachins and Tendulkars restaurants in mumbai and Bengaluru,u will realise that he has earned handsomely from cricket.If u think its too much pressure,then advise him to take retirement.
Re: 22yrs, no triple, no technique to avoid LBW against incoming,insw
by Against Pseudos on Jan 21, 2012 10:51 AM
Well said. He could have reached 250 centuries by now.
Re: 22yrs, no triple, no technique to avoid LBW against incoming,insw
by silver mani on Jan 21, 2012 11:14 AM
Cc man Sachin is a mediocre batsman against quality swing,Against Akram ,Donald and Mcgrath he has very poor record.
Re: Re: 22yrs, no triple, no technique to avoid LBW against incoming,insw
by silver mani on Jan 21, 2012 11:24 AM
Whenever Sachin plays against Aus and Mcgrath is present,Sachins average against AUS is 36.77.
Re: Re: Re: 22yrs, no triple, no technique to avoid LBW against incoming,insw
by silver mani on Jan 21, 2012 11:25 AM
Whenever Akram Plays for Pak in Tests,Sachins average against PAK is 32.
Re: Re: Re: Re: 22yrs, no triple, no technique to avoid LBW against incoming,insw
by silver mani on Jan 21, 2012 11:30 AM
Whenever Donald plays for SA in Tests,Sachins average against SA is 32.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 22yrs, no triple, no technique to avoid LBW against incoming,insw
by silver mani on Jan 21, 2012 11:34 AM
In tests,Against Donald,Akram and Mcgrath,Sachin has scored 1719 runs at an average of 34.3.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 22yrs, no triple, no technique to avoid LBW against incoming,insw
by silver mani on Jan 21, 2012 11:37 AM
In ODIs ,his record is Not great either.After playing 70 matches against mcgrath,Akram and Donald,he scored 2222 runs ,with an average of 31.64.
Re: Re: Re: Re: 22yrs, no triple, no technique to avoid LBW again
by sanjay on Jan 21, 2012 11:32 AM
Akram has not got Sachin out in test even a single times....
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 22yrs, no triple, no technique to avoid LBW again
by silver mani on Jan 21, 2012 11:44 AM
Sanjay ,I am not sure about that but if what u r saying is righr,Then its due to the pressure created by Akram at the other end.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 22yrs, no triple, no technique to avoid LBW again
by silver mani on Jan 21, 2012 01:02 PM
Against undies,Feeling sorry for u and ur fake God but thats the reality...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 22yrs, no triple, no technique to avoid LBW again
by silver mani on Jan 21, 2012 07:06 PM
Yeah,youngsters must be feeling sorry for Sachins Mahashatak!!!
I still dont see why pakistan is considering a foreign Coach? Dav Whatmore why? Mohsin seems to be doing fine Waqar was also very good before him, what is this facination with Foreign coaches in India and Pakistan? let the goras stay away and rely on your seniors like Pakistan has been? crazy logic.
Frankly Tendulkar does not even deserve to be 9th...he stays there only on reputation and respect and I have nothing against him but rankking cannot be emotional....the man needs to retire, Dravid on the other hand is scratching away and has done better than tendu anyway. Pakistan should not even focus on the sham rankings we need to perform as a team without heroes. This pakistan team has risen from the ashes of a very controversial spot fixing scandal and frankly the scandal itself was broken by a paper in disrepute pakistanis still dont believe this was done, regardless pakistan cricket remains a resiliant force and this also proves our point, CONTACT or NO CONTACT with internation cricket at home, we have the talent to stay extremely competitive, we dont need the ICC the ICC needs us....Good bye and good riddance if no one wants to tour, we will come to a neutral ground the kick the snots out of you!
Re: Dont see how
by C M on Jan 21, 2012 09:32 AM
Thanks for agreeing SRT has Reputation and respect..to further elaborate on that..those things are never on sale in mkt..One has to earn it...Talking rubish abt SRT is almost a newfound hobby for many..Ppl feel dignified if they happen to find faults of Greatest player (whther faults present or not thats debatable perspective of an individual lol)..Donald bradman has gone thru that too..Dont go ga ga by one victory..remembr wht happen tpo pak team in UK last tour..?? and one before that..In cricket better performaing team wins and only one teams wins at a time..In fact i m happy pak team won against UK..but that doesnt qualify u to snob SRT..
Re: Re: Dont see how
by solid singh on Jan 21, 2012 02:31 PM
c m dear , if you see the sachin critics do not say that he is not a great player. But they try to underline the fact that he is as great as other other intl contemporary cricketers. over rating , over hype , making him into a god- that is they are against.
Re: Dont see how
by Frodo Baggins on Jan 21, 2012 10:56 AM
PAkistan has not risen from anything only fools go to watch pakistan matches they are invariably fixed with 10 players fighting against the captain for their share of the loot
