Re: Future of the Indian Cricket Team
by hillary desouza on Jan 09, 2012 07:04 AM
Disagree on Sachin.He has scored > 230 runs in 4 innings.Nothing wrong with that and showed he was the most confident Indian batters.
Rohit at the start of the tour said in the media in Australia that Aussies were weak against swing bowling.It was an immature statement at the start of the tour whether or not it was true he should have kept quiet.
Re: Re: Future of the Indian Cricket Team
by Ashwin Subra on Jan 09, 2012 07:20 AM
I did not mean to drop Sachin/Dravid immediately but only said that it is better they retire when they have peaked. Maybe within 2013-14.
Re: Re: Re: Future of the Indian Cricket Team
by Ashwin Subra on Jan 09, 2012 07:24 AM
After winning the toss if u cant even pt 300 .,How can ur bowlers bowl confidently. Remember Cricket is a mind game!!!
Re: Re: Future of the Indian Cricket Team
by Chandran KR on Jan 09, 2012 11:39 AM
Sachin has to go because the only motivation for him it seems is to get to his 100th ton, in one way that is responsible for consuming more numbers of overs which is detrimental to India.
Re: Future of the Indian Cricket Team
by Ashwin Subra on Jan 09, 2012 07:12 AM
Effects of T20 / IPL clearly visible in the test series. All of us made Filmstars so rich that now they have started mining with IPL. DONT GO AND WATCH MOVIES IN THEATRE NOR GO AND WATCH IPL MATCHES IN STADIUMS. THIS IS ONLY MAKING FILMSTARS/BCCI/CRICKET PLAYERS EARN CRORES AND CRORES. please PASS THIS MESSAGE ACROSS INDIA!!!
Ojha should be in 11 during the second test to give use breakthroughs.
There are things from jones that make sense and not everything. It is for buyer to figure out what is good to buy.
yes, our pace has not been advised well.
GOOD THING, bowlers are working injury free as long they are rehabilitated during the match and after.
Bad thing is that they dont have the zip that ozzies have been able to get on their own pitches. Ozzies have bee advised and trained wisely for ozzie pitch and conditions.
YOU NEED A TALL BATSMEN like laxman WITH REACH TO face rise balls and forward-backward. Laxman has to do more on nets to get back in shape. ... laxman can do well for this series.
Do they want gambhir and kohli back for the next test because they are younger? Is this is why media is generating all these arguments against laxman being old? Even if he plays slow and old as Geoff Boycoot, it is not bad for india. the above 2 (gambhir and kohli) dont have the reach of laxman or class of tendulkar even when they try to copy.
in the current form, rahane could have scored more than sehwag and Saha could have scored more than dhoni when given right orientation.
RD, SRT and VVS have nothing to prove to anyone- however much theirHaters andBaiters may bray- and however much our sillyNewsChannels andMedia may say so. It's the younsters in the team who have things to prove- let them stand up to the test first. GautamGambhir, RohitSharma, ViratKohli and MSDhoni better perform in this test- In any case, I suspect RD might retire after this series- he probably hung on even for this series only because MSD andBCCI begged him to stay back. The way he retired from ODIs proves this point.I wanted him to retire after the EnglandSeries, wherein he proved his mettle spectacularly.
The time has come to "Retire" 2 gr8s "sachin" & 'Dravid". Reasons are:- these 2 gr8s just want to increse there "Test Runs" so that nobody can catch them.We are losing Consistently,why not try New faces atleast they will play for Country. These 2 grs "Fielding" is so poor that 1 of them( "Sachin" ) has to "hide" in the Field & the Other ("Dravid") has dropped so many catches becoz they think only abt there "Batting"(To increase test Runs) while Fielding. "Sachin" will only retire IF "Kallis" & "Pointing" retire becoz they are close to his "Records" & India & its people will be "Cheated" Continuosly by Losing.
Re: Retire sacin & Dravid
by praveen on Jan 08, 2012 10:59 PM
Stop blaming abt Dravid and Sachin. Speak abt the young players performing in overseas before blaming the greats. Coming to the fielding part, what are so called youngsters ishant, zaheer and umesh are doing & if u really know abt cricket, dont even compare sachin with those youngsters as he is quicker and committed in field than others. Don't always blame seniors. No one plays for their own history which doesn't help Country.
Re: Retire sacin & Dravid
by sukanta roy on Jan 09, 2012 12:17 AM
sachin is doing a permanent government job with BCCI. You cannot remove him unless he gets injured facing fast bowler in australia.
Re: Retire sacin & Dravid
by India Shining on Jan 09, 2012 12:36 AM
Please give me a break.. RD is in the squad only becauseDhobi probably begged him not to retire- RD is not the kind of guy to stay around if unwanted- the way he retired from ODIs proves that point- I won't speak about Scahin- but the fact remains that the only two people who have scored consistently last year were SRT and RD. No one else even came close to these guys in the IndianTestTeam- Records and Runs are a result of their phenomenal abilities and hard work and not the other way around- so stop deriding them
Re: Retire sacin & Dravid
by India Shining on Jan 09, 2012 12:45 AM
As for your comment on RD dropping catches- you need to do a reality check- RD has the world record for slip catches- Did he get that by dropping catches all these years? And if a weakness has opened up in his batting after playing for the last 16 years- and performing gloriously in all those years, so what? WE all have our moments of weakness and so does RD. He is one of the true greats of world cricket. Same goes for SRT and VVs. Ask your precious "Youngsters"- MSD, GautamGambhir, ViratKohli and RohitSharma to prove themselves
The time has come to "Retire" 2 gr8s "sachin" & 'Dravid". Reasons are:- these 2 gr8s just want to increse there "Test Runs" so that nobody can catch them.We are losing Consistently,why not try New faces atleast they will play for Country. These 2 grs "Fielding" is so poor that 1 of them( "Sachin" ) has to "hide" in the Field & the Other ("Dravid") has dropped so many catches becoz they think only abt there "Batting"(To increase test Runs) while Fielding. "Sachin" will only retire IF "Kallis" & "Pointing" retire becoz they are close to his "Records" & India & its people will be "Cheated" Continuosly by Losing.
Re: Retire sacin & Dravid
by S K on Jan 09, 2012 07:55 AM
abey nair ... bandh kar apna tire... gadhe cricket ke baarey mein kuch pata nahi hain na to chup baith... ek kaam karte hain tereko bhejte hain khelne ke liye... abey gadhe gxxxd mein nahin ghu aur hagne chale juhu... chup baith
Pace and swing bowlers will get much help on perth ground. This is going to be a great test for indian great batsmen like tendulkar, dravid, shewbag, and finally oldman Laxman. All of them have to face furious bowling with tremendous pace and swing of australian pace bowlers with dangerous bouncers.
Re: PARTH IS MORE DANGEROUS PACE WICKET.
by India Shining on Jan 09, 2012 12:41 AM
RD, SRT and VVS have nothing to prove to anyone- however much theirHaters andBaiters may bray- and however much our sillyNewsChannels andMedia may say so. It's the younsters in the team who have things to prove- let them stand up to the test first. GautamGambhir, RohitSharma, ViratKohli and MSDhoni better perform in this test- In any case, I suspect RD might retire after this series- he probably hung on even for this series only because MSD andBCCI begged him to stay back. The way he retired from ODIs proves this point.I wanted him to retire after the EnglandSeries, wherein he proved his mettle spectacularly.
The rot started during the when the Kiwis toured in 2010. There the batting collapsed time and again, against a mediocre attack, at home, and each time was hauled out by, of all people, Harbhajan Singh.
Its been about, I think, 17 test matches, home and away including that series. How many of the top line Indian batsmen, other than Rahul Dravid, and including M S Dhoni, have got hundreds in Test matches. How many have scored 150 scores (Daddy hundreds - as the English terms them). How many 200 scores have been scored ? Eight of those tests have been played against the Kiwis or the Windies. Even against these teams, leaving out the Kolkata test last November, the batting has not really clicked.
A test team needs at least one guy to get a 150 score, preferably in the first innings of a test match. If two other batsmen get 75 scores, it can land up with a score of 400 quite easily. Then they can try and force a win, or at least think of drawing the match. Very few teams have lost after getting a 400 score in the first innings unless they have batted pathetically in the second.
Otherwise, the team will always will be playing catch up, and against a top side, they will invariably get punished.
Perhaps the key to this lies in what Sunil Gavaskar said a few days back - that the art of batting in a test match does not lie in just knowing which ball to play or hit, it also lies in knowing which ball to leave. He should know.
The rot started during the when the Kiwis toured in 2010. There the batting collapsed time and again, against a mediocre attack, at home, and each time was hauled out by, of all people, Harbhajan Singh.
Its been about, I think, 17 test matches, home and away including that series. How many of the top line Indian batsmen, other than Rahul Dravid, and including M S Dhoni, have got hundreds in Test matches. How many have scored 150 scores (Daddy hundreds - as the English terms them). How many 200 scores have been scored ? Eight of those tests have been played against the Kiwis or the Windies. Even against these teams, leaving out the Kolkata test last November, the batting has not really clicked.
A test team needs at least one guy to get a 150 score, preferably in the first innings of a test match. If two other batsmen get 75 scores, it can land up with a score of 400 quite easily. Then they can try and force a win, or at least think of drawing the match. Very few teams have lost after getting a 400 score in the first innings unless they have batted pathetically in the second.
Otherwise, the team will always will be playing catch up, and against a top side, they will invariably get punished.
Perhaps the key to this lies in what Sunil Gavaskar said a few days back - that the art of batting in a test match does not lie in just knowing which ball to play or hit, it also lies in knowing which ball to leave. He should know.
Ojha always plays consistently. They should drop Ashwin failed miserable as spinner.Kohli should be droped and in his pace Rohit should be tried. Rohit is also a part time spinner and a good fielder.We can observe taht whenever Sachin is not there in the team all the members of the team members contributed and played well.
