oo much of IPL and ODIS which spoil the techniques of the players (Sunny is right when he said too much of limited overs cricket). 2.BCCI is greedy and interested in making money by forcing the players to IPL. Pawar should resign. What does he know about cricket? We must have knowledgeble people in the board not politicians. 3. No preparation camps before away tours as it used to be previously. 4. The younsters are not exposed to bouncy tracks in the sub continent as our board doesn't want to prepare them to groom the players. 5.Have an active and athletic coach like Kirsten who can inspire the team and not some one as lousy as Fletcher.As soon as he took over the team is looking lethargic and disinterested in playing. 6. Must improve the fielding std. and running between the wickets. 7. With due respect to the famous Trio, taking nothing away from their contributions to the team, have them replaced by young blood soon.It will take sometime but they will learn. 8. Why not send youngsters to Austrlia, England and S.Africa for coaching in batting on the bouncy tracks? Can be arranged with the consent from the respective boards.
dhoni-post match comments: before start of the series- v r good team n v vl try to win the series. after 1st test- v cudnt adjust to conditions, but ther r 3 more to go n v vl bounce back. after 2nd test, nothing is lost, v vl win both the remaining tests n draw the series. after 3rd test defeat- series is lost but not the pride, v vl save our pride in final test. after 4th test defeat - v r nt bad side, but 'somehow' v didnt play to our 'potential' otherwise, the same 'talented' bunch had won series at 'home(!!!)'
3rd Test team X1 & Strategy: • Opening Partnership must be 70 Plus • Need to reshuffle Dravid & laxman Position • Replace Kohli with Rohit Sharma • Alteast 2 Centuries & 2 Fifties from Top 7 Batsman • Include 2 Spinners (Just bowl as much as maidens with attacking field setup) • Include only 2 quick’s(Zaheer & Umesh Yadav)
Re: India able to Draw the series if the below things happen.
by chandra verma on Jan 07, 2012 01:16 PM
1 Sachin(In Perth- 114,15,71,13) 2. Shewag (In Perth - 29&43) 3. VVS. Laxman(In Perth -27&79) 4 Dhohi 5 Rohit Sharma 6 Gambhir
7 Dravid (In Perth - 93&3) 8. Ashwin 9. Zaheer 10. Ojha OR HARBHAJAN 11. YadavOR PRAVEEN
Re: India able to Draw the series if the below things happen.
by sanjay on Jan 07, 2012 09:16 AM
Opening Partnership must be 70 Plus ? How can we with what degree of certainty ? With Ram Bharose Hindu Hotel type attitude of opener it is simply not working. Dravid is virtual opener most of the time even Sachin if openers do not last for 20 overs...
Re: India able to Draw the series if the below things happen.
by sanjay on Jan 07, 2012 09:17 AM
Opening Partnership must be 70 Plus ? How can we with what degree of certainty ? With Ram Bharose Hindu Hotel type attitude of opener it is simply not working. Dravid is virtual opener most of the time even Sachin if openers do not last for 20 plus overs...
Re: They are out to play cricket
by SoBloodyWhat on Jan 07, 2012 06:37 AM
Cricketers have taken their wives with them? Then anna must start fasting immediately
Re: They are out to play cricket
by Prabodh Jain on Jan 07, 2012 07:12 AM
I agree entirely. Even Aussie and England curbing crickters taking their family with them when playing abroad..
dhoni the most useless player team hs ever seen oversees. even bowlers bat better thn him. he is in team jst bcz of captaincy, the day captaincy wl go, dhoni wl be kicked out in next series. useless fellow always bats in asia.
Dhoni n bowlers batting average outside subcontinent In WI 2006, 24, kumble 26.6 In AUS 2007, 17.62 kumble 30, harbhajan 23 In WI 2011, 19.4 harbhajan 24.5 In ENG 2011, 12.25 harbhajan 14.5 In Aus 2012, 29.33 ashwin 35.75
EVEN BOWLERS HAVE PERFORMED BETTER THAN USELESS DHONI. NO CENTURY IN 7 YEARS OVERSEES. useless player.
Re: dhoni should be kicked out
by GAURAV HANDA on Jan 07, 2012 02:22 AM
Mr Sonu,Dhoni has not performed in tests overseas and that is a fact.Even his strongest fans can not defend him now.But his performance in one dayers overseas has been decent.Do not be so harsh by saying that he is useless.I can understand your anger.The whole nation is angry.But lets not forget that he won the 20-20 World Cup and the World Cup.Who can forget his daredevil innings of 91 not out in the final under immense pressure.There is no bigger feeling than to see an Indian Captain lifting the World cup and that too twice.Australia has lost last 2 series in India.England won their last test series in India in 1985.If we struggle abroad they also struggle in India.Lets hope that India bounce back
Re: Re: dhoni should be kicked out
by t xz on Jan 07, 2012 04:55 AM
First we are talking about test cricket and not T20 or one day. You can keep shouting about those but the fact of the matter is that Indian cannot play consistently well abroad. Your comparison about England and Australia is wrong. They have not lost 6 tests in a row abroad all, and their current batsmen don't boast of combined 50000 runs in test cricket. In shorter versions of the game Dhoni's tactics work very well, because we have just restrict the score and not necessarily take all 10 wickets, plus the batsmen only have to think of 1 day. Test cricket is different, you are not judged by how quickly you score runs but how many you score and how you control the sessions whether batting or bowling. Dhoni is never seen communicating with the bowlers even when they are bowling bad. Agreed Dhoni alone is not to blame, but he has a big responsibility to at least tell the bowlers and also to plan the dismissals. No matter whom you bring in now the result would be the same, because the Indian players are getting less comfortable playing test cricket nowadays, especially the new comers. They play a lot of one dayers and T20, hence their style of play is not suited to longer versions where you have to sometimes graft and hang in there with good technique. Plus they mostly play on slow and low wickets in India where there is not much swing and bounce.
Re: Re: Re: dhoni should be kicked out
by GAURAV HANDA on Jan 07, 2012 03:36 PM
Mr.Sonu you seems to be an intelligent man. You have all the statistics.I am not defending MS.India drew test series in Eng 2002,Aus 2003,won in Pakistan 2004,WI 2006,Eng 2007,won at Perth 2008,NZ,2009,drew in SA 2010,won in WI 2011.These are minor achievments but should be applauded.Sachin And Dravid averages 50 abroad,equal no of tons abroad,Laxman close to 50.They are reasonably good batsmen.Overhyped MS played close to 200 ODI and averages 50.But every run is made in India which has no relevance.Lifting the WC in India irrelevant(first time home team lifted the world cup).But that amounts to nothing.Making close to a ton in WC final,the biggest game is irrelevant.ODI and T-20 watched by billions irrelevant.Test cricket is the boss no doubt.Time is running out for Team India.Dhoni has 2 games left.Its now or never.Indians are criticised when they play overseas although their success ratio in tests and ODI is very good overseas from June 2002-June 2011.India has lost only 2 Test seies at home in last 20 years.But it has no relevance.England won the last test series in India in 1985.Aussies lost last 2 Test series in India.So what, winning in India is no big deal.Performance in last 6 tests extremely poor,abject surrender.One message to the world.We can only play in our land as many people say.We cannot win in your land but if you have guts beat us in our land.When you win at home your fans worship you.When we win people make fun of us.We forget the good work easily.
Re: Re: Re: Re: dhoni should be kicked out
by sonu on Jan 07, 2012 05:51 PM
gaurav, dnt take it otherwise. i m nt denying the fact that teams performance in India is gud which hs kept us in race with other top teams. I hvnt raised the question of India's victory in INDIA, nor i hv criticized India's performance oversees.(plz read my post again) i hv jst written that dhoni's batting performance oversees is pathetic n even bowlers hv performed better thn him wid bat.
Re: Re: dhoni should be kicked out
by sonu on Jan 07, 2012 09:55 AM
Dear gaurav, If u think that dhoni is a gud ODI batsman, here is the average of Dhoni’s ODI performance oversees
WI 2006- 23.75 SA 2006- 34.75 WC 2007- 09.66 Ireland 2007- 14 Eng 2007- 25 SA 2009- 03 SA 2011- 15
He played well in hardly 3-4 series oversees in which he maintained gud average in by remaining not out.
He is Flop in ODI n test oversees.
Secondly u also knw wht dhoni did in WC n wht ws his contribution. One fluke innings in final, whn platform was already set by gambhir n kohli, the match ws very much in control. He snatched the opportunity frm yuvraj n raina n became hero, yuvraj n raina wr consistently performing. Dhoni ws a big flop n scored hardly 150 runs in 8 matches b4 final.
As far as T20 wc is concerned he played well in 1 or 2 matches n we won bcz of sehwag, gambhir, yuvraj, uthappa , rohit. One gud odi series with bat in England recently dsnt make him a gud batsman oversees, he remains nt out that’s why his average is high.
Also aus. n others dsnt lose series in India in the shameless manner like us. we performed very well in 2004 n 2008 bcz our captains too delivered with other batsmen.
Accept the fact that he is a useless batsman oversees n cn play only in asia.
Re: Re: Re: dhoni should be kicked out
by Subhasish Saha on Jan 07, 2012 02:43 PM
I completely agree with you Sonu. Actually I am too a fan of Dhoni, his style etc etc. but its very much true that he is very lucky. He got the captaincy while our team was in a very much right track which was slowly slowly built up by Saurav, Dravid and Kumble. Beside that our team was going through a good phase. Like Sonu I want to ask others that after taking captaincy how many series India won in abroad (Apart from Asian Country). After Dhoni got the captaincy, he changed his batting style, that old aggressive Dhoni we lost which might have turned good for several occasions for India but due to his slow batting so many times India got into a difficult position too. I am not criticizing Dhoni but truth is truth and that Dhoni is not playing well in abroad as well as in subcontinent apart from a few occasion.
Re: Re: Re: dhoni should be kicked out
by Subhasish Saha on Jan 07, 2012 02:43 PM
I completely agree with you Sonu. Actually I am too a fan of Dhoni, his style etc etc. but its very much true that he is very lucky. He got the captaincy while our team was in a very much right track which was slowly slowly built up by Saurav, Dravid and Kumble. Beside that our team was going through a good phase. Like Sonu I want to ask others that after taking captaincy how many series India won in abroad (Apart from Asian Country). After Dhoni got the captaincy, he changed his batting style, that old aggressive Dhoni we lost which might have turned good for several occasions for India but due to his slow batting so many times India got into a difficult position too. I am not criticizing Dhoni but truth is truth and that Dhoni is not playing well in abroad as well as in subcontinent apart from a few occasion.
Re: Re: dhoni should be kicked out
by sonu on Jan 07, 2012 09:56 AM
Dear gaurav, If u think that dhoni is a gud ODI batsman, here is the average of Dhoni’s ODI performance oversees
WI 2006- 23.75 SA 2006- 34.75 WC 2007- 09.66 Ireland 2007- 14 Eng 2007- 25 SA 2009- 03 SA 2011- 15
He played well in hardly 3-4 series oversees in which he maintained gud average in by remaining not out.
He is Flop in ODI n test oversees.
Secondly u also knw wht dhoni did in WC n wht ws his contribution. One fluke innings in final, whn platform was already set by gambhir n kohli, the match ws very much in control. He snatched the opportunity frm yuvraj n raina n became hero, yuvraj n raina wr consistently performing. Dhoni ws a big flop n scored hardly 150 runs in 8 matches b4 final.
As far as T20 wc is concerned he played well in 1 or 2 matches n we won bcz of sehwag, gambhir, yuvraj, uthappa , rohit. One gud odi series with bat in England recently dsnt make him a gud batsman oversees, he remains nt out that’s why his average is high.
Also aus. n others dsnt lose series in India in the shameless manner like us. we performed very well in 2004 n 2008 bcz our captains too delivered with other batsmen.
Accept the fact that he is a useless batsman oversees n cn play only in asia.
Re: Re: Re: dhoni should be kicked out
by ASHISH KUMAR on Jan 07, 2012 10:44 PM
well said sonu. Dhoni is only good batsman in ODI on flat indian track mailnly agaisnt asian teams. Rest all formats he is a big flop. In T-20 intnl his record even worse tahn test cricket. After playing 28 T-20 international, no match winning inning or 50 or MOM with pathetic strike rate of 102. His slow & selfish batting caused India early exit & shamneloss loss in 2008 & 2010 T-20 wcup.
