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Sachin's time in ODIs is up, says Kapil


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Vinnish Baby
Kapil is a Man of critisism
by Vinnish Baby on Feb 21, 2012 07:06 AM  | Hide replies

I still remember your commment about Sachin after the 2007 world cup debacle.You said, we dont want to look people who has 15,000 runs or many centuries. we need young blood in one day cricket. But after that world cup sachin hit some of the fabulous innings like 200*, 175 against Aus and 163 against NZ etc etc. After all he is the top scorer for India in the World cup 2011. you really are jealous about sachin.Sachin is far better than you man.You are considered to be a man of critisism. That is why peole are not listening your words.Because of this, you are no where after you hang up your boots. When you coach India it was terrible. When you start ICL , it did't click. My advice you to coach hariyana team.

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ankesh
Re: Kapil is a Man of critisism
by ankesh on Feb 21, 2012 08:11 AM
After WC 2007 Laxman,ganguly,dravid were dropped from ODI.why not sachin?...if dravid place is assured like sachin...he would have done such fabulous innings then n there.accept the fact...sachin is supported by strong Mumbai lobby and his huge sponsors...so he will extend his carrer till 40..by announcing fake injuries and coming back.

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Murali Ramakrishnan
Re: Re: Kapil is a Man of critisism
by Murali Ramakrishnan on Feb 21, 2012 08:59 AM
Ya right. Sachin has strong lobby to support which other good crickets like Dravid and Lax didnt get.

I would even go little further that lobby is now even favouring players like Zaheer, harbajan, Yuvraj, Rohit sharma.

Let the dooms day come for the lobbist. Let cricket survive not the lobbiest. Curse on them,

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Ashish Kumar
Sachin
by Ashish Kumar on Feb 21, 2012 07:06 AM  | Hide replies

Sachin was no doubt a great player. He is a legend and legends' best place is in books. With age his reflexes have slowed down which is natural and does not make him a lesser batsman. On finding it difficult to negotiate the South African wickets Sachin had wisely returned mid-tour. He should have never gone to England or Australia. In sub-continental conditions he is still good enough to get one more hundred. After that he should peacefully retire.
Kapil has no right to sermonise Sachin. Everyone knows what game Anil Kumble had to devise to get Kapil his record breaking wicket.
Kapil's criticism of Dhoni for not bowling Jadeja again is dishonest. No captain woth his salt would have risked bowling a slow left ar leg spinners against ramapaging left handers like Warren and Mike Hussey.

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Ashish Kumar
Re: Sachin
by Ashish Kumar on Feb 21, 2012 07:08 AM
Sachin was no doubt a great player. He is a legend and legends' best place is in books. With age his reflexes have slowed down which is natural and does not make him a lesser batsman. On finding it difficult to negotiate the South African wickets Sachin has wisely returned from mid-tour. He should have never gone to England or Australia. In sub-continental conditions he is still good enough to get one more hundred. After that he should peacefully retire.
Kapil has no right to sermonise Sachin. Everyone knows what game plan Anil Kumble had to devise to get Kapil his record-breaking wicket.
Kapil's criticism of Dhoni for not bowling Jadeja is dishonest. No captain worth his salt would have risked bowling a slow left arm leg spinners against ramapaging left handers like Warren and Mike Hussey.

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rama anne
@Bouncy track vs Rotation policy vs Fielding
by rama anne on Feb 21, 2012 07:04 AM  | Hide replies

@Rotation Policy
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Rotation policy will help the most for PACE BOWLERS

observe world cricket - Pace bowlers (Brett lee ,Mitchell Johnson etc ) all have injuries at some point of time in their career

So is Zaheer Khan ,Pakistani bowlers like Shoab Akhtar

so Rotation policy will help - if we could create two or three more Zaheers or umesh yadavs and keep them in reserves

if some Zaheer or Umesh Yadav is tired ,we could rotate with the reserves
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Batsmen in comparision are less likely to be Injury prone ,but more likely to be OUT OF FORM at times

Take
Shehwag
Gambhir
Sachin

I do not think any of the above are OUT OF FORM
while sachin apart ,Gambhir has shown definetly discomfort against Short pitched bowling and Out swing bowling on a bouncy Track

while Shehwag seems to get out quickly with same bowling in recent test series

Sachin is capable of playing front foot cover shots ,but seems to rely on SQUARE OF THE WICKET shots and that has restricted his scoring

so issue for INDIAN BATSMEN is
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SWING plus PACE on a Bouncy track

so instead of tackling the above ,I find surprising MS DHONI started to focus only on fielding

Recent ODI at GABA is a classic replay of TEST SERIES

HILFENHAUS bowling,Starc etc bowled similar to TEST MATCHES knowing well INDIAN batsmen are vulnerable to SWING plus PACE and pitched up(BOUNCY TRACK)

SO whole TEST SERIES proved SWING plus PACE ,pitched up at 140 mph plus speed on a

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rama anne
Re: @Bouncy track vs Rotation policy vs Fielding
by rama anne on Feb 21, 2012 07:09 AM
bouncy track is proving FATAL to indian batsmen
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the games that INDIA won are at ADELAIDE where conditions are similar to somewhat Indian tracks

But as CB TRI SERIES moves forward ,AUSSIES will make sure of the wickets and make sure the bowling is just like TEST SERIES (in 50 overs too)

so MS DHONI should marshal his troops that means - seniors ,others all as a UNIT

I do not think focusing on FIELDING and Rotation policy will make the difference

better to find ways to deal with
SWING plus PACE bowling

I believe rest of the matches are at Hobart and Sydney



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rama anne
@Fielding - How important is it ?
by rama anne on Feb 21, 2012 06:21 AM  | Hide replies

@Kapil Devji
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please allow atleast The TRI SERIES to finish ,there are a couple of MATCHES more to go

as far as MS DHONI statement is concerned
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FIELDING
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THERE used to be ROBIN SINGH (Indian heritage from west Indies) ,who migrated to CHENNAI to play for INDIA
QUESTIONS
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HE is a very GOOD FIELDER and useful Batsman at 5 OR 6th position ,But he was on ,off and also wait for a long time to get into the TEAM

why ???
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Sachin ,Ghambhir and Shehwag
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All the above are BATSMAN who play in top three positions
especially OPENING AND 1ST position

so question is ?

is a good score as an OPENER important ? or FIELDING ?

As far as I know ,Shehwag is a good fieldsman ,he has taken some GOOD catches
,so is SACHIN as well

Iam puzzled ,FIELDING is important ,but how important ? will it replace a sound and solid Batsman ?
I do not think so ?

Let us say some Youngsters are sharp and good fielders (take Exception VIRAT KOHLI) ,how many runs will those youngsters score ?

why did INDIA lose to Australia ?
Bouncy pitch ,Swing bowling or lack of fielding ?

I think it is - SWING BOWLING AND BOUNCY PITCH

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rama anne
Re: @Fielding - How important is it ?
by rama anne on Feb 21, 2012 06:27 AM
that India lost the BRISBANE ODI
as well as TEST SERIES
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So Dhoni should introspect

Aussies realised that India has scored 10 points on Batsmen friendly wickets

so they reverted to SWING AND BOUNCE at Gabba

Just like TEST SERIES ,again Indian batsmen failed to score this time
which proves - SWING PLUS BOUNCE is proving FATAL to Indian Batting ?

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so TEAM THINK Tank
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what are the options to score
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Front foot plus Back foot combination of Foot work?

Square of the wicket (Sachin is trying this option)

step front and smash the ball over COVERS that is pitched outside off stump length(Sachin is capable of playing the COVER shots ?)

VIRAT KOHLI is capable of stepping Forward and take on the BOWLING ?

WHAT about DHONI - he is playing all backfoot shots and placing ball (for singles and twos ) and occasional 4s and 6s ?

so which Indian batsmen will step forward ,view the ball and hit straight over the bowlers head or play COVER shots ?

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sakar panch
Well said Kapil
by sakar panch on Feb 21, 2012 05:58 AM

We still have people like you who can call a spade a spade. Unfortunately that is the reason you are suffering. Even cricketing fans lack appreciation to you let alone gratitude for your service to nation.

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cc man
Breaking news: Insiders report from Australia
by cc man on Feb 21, 2012 03:41 AM  | Hide replies

All, insider report said that Tendya finally decided to break his protocol of not scoring well till he gets occasion to score hundred. It seems that he decided to score 90 runs and get out in todays match. But, he still wants to defer hundred to an occasion.

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cc man
Re: Breaking news: Insiders report from Australia
by cc man on Feb 21, 2012 03:45 AM
Basically,he decided not go into shell and make a good contribution of 90 odd runs

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cc man
Re: Re: Breaking news: Insiders report from Australia
by cc man on Feb 21, 2012 03:46 AM
But, he still bent on handing over his wicket to Maharoof/Malinga as he already handed over his wicket to kulashekara,mathews

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Injun Abhi
Re: Breaking news: Insiders report from Australia
by Injun Abhi on Feb 21, 2012 05:35 AM

CC,
Looks like Ponting is gone, finally. I bet you're the happiest person on Redif board.. Although, I cared less about Ponting, the POS..


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Raj Thakre
Kapil Paaji....
by Raj Thakre on Feb 21, 2012 03:26 AM  | Hide replies

Please forgive me for what I am writing against you. - It's very easy to advise others and what Kapil paaji did in his last phase of career as he dragged very long to break record of Richard Hadlee. (434 wickets). Kapil, if you had said that I dont want Sachin to make same mistake what I did then your comments would have welcomed.

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Sarnath Kannan
Re: Kapil Paaji....
by Sarnath Kannan on Feb 21, 2012 05:47 AM
Well said!

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sakar panch
Re: Kapil Paaji....
by sakar panch on Feb 21, 2012 05:55 AM
Dont compare Kapil and Tendulkar.

Kapil is a tall figure (pun intentional). He had redifined cricket in India and his contribution to the nation is very high. Tendulkar is merely selfish.

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Angelo deSouza
Re: Re: Kapil Paaji....
by Angelo deSouza on Feb 21, 2012 07:30 AM
I agree that Kapil Dev by and large played cricket for the country while a lot of others played for themselves. But, Kapil did hang around for too long when he should have quit.

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Sameer Bhagwat
Kapil
by Sameer Bhagwat on Feb 21, 2012 02:42 AM  | Hide replies

You want him to do, what you did not do? Remember your last 3 years Kapil?

No Indian cricketer barring Sunil Gavaskar knew when to quit. That's the reality.

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Raman Shiva
Re: Kapil
by Raman Shiva on Feb 21, 2012 02:44 AM

Kumble. Put him ahead of Gawaskar

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Injun Abhi
Re: Re: Kapil
by Injun Abhi on Feb 21, 2012 04:35 AM

Anil Kumble was gentleman. Lots of respect for that guy. ANd he should have stayed in the team if he wanted to but he called it a day and his legacy lives on.

Sachin is really hurting his legacy by refusing to retire. Hope he will not be remebered as someone who had to be forced out of the team rather then someone who was the best player in cricket..



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K Ram
Re: Re: Re: Kapil
by K Ram on Feb 21, 2012 05:23 AM
If only Krish Srikkanth and the other selectors have the guts and vision of their Australian counterparts.... Our grandpas aren't matured enough to stay aside and give way for youngsters on their own. We can only pray, selectors have the guts to tell them "enough is enough! we had enough of u and thanks for what you did!"

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Angelo deSouza
Re: Re: Re: Kapil
by Angelo deSouza on Feb 21, 2012 07:28 AM
Anil Kumble was a gentleman, yes. But, did you all see the way he fielded to his own bowling and the way he fielded otherwise ??? Also, the way he ran between the wickets when he had hit the ball and the way he ran when he was at the non-strikers end ???? Any views ???

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Priyadarshi Bhattacharya
Kapil is right!
by Priyadarshi Bhattacharya on Feb 21, 2012 02:40 AM

ODIs dnt have any meaning for him any longer. He should retire after this series and focus on Tests.

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alex
ponting and sachin
by alex on Feb 21, 2012 02:15 AM  | Hide replies

Pontings 2 yr was going in poor form avg 28.88
Sachin has just one bad series in ODI (still not finished) but still managed avg 44 ,and 2 test series in last 2 yr. (as per his own set standards)...how can we compare..Anyway if we add Aussi stickyard to our selection , then I dont think we will ever select 11 consistent player.

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alex
Re: ponting and sachin
by alex on Feb 21, 2012 02:18 AM
I mean just one bad series in ODI in 2 yr but 2 yr avg is 44 in ODI...and 2 bad series in test in last 2 yr as per his own std.

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Injun Abhi
Re: Re: ponting and sachin
by Injun Abhi on Feb 21, 2012 04:38 AM

ok, but look at how Sachin is playing the game now days? He is picking and choosing the series at his leisure. He would have passed this Aussie series as well if he had scored his ton during the test series.


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