MSD must have been instrumental in scapegoating VVSL or atleast not gracefully phasing his career out. VVSL scored 8800 runs in dire situations for India.. it is not just 8-10 situations. Check it out. Barring last two test series, he is the go-to man, crisis player.
MSD used this skill to his advantage. At the first instance when India lost 8 tests, VVSL was finger-pointed. The poor guy had scored a match-winning century in the test prior to 8 tests where no one else could play well. Sadly that innings happened to be his last good innings.
Media started baying for seniors' blood - Rahul Dravid and VVS Laxman and the pressure built on them to go.
VVSL may have felt that he did not receive support from his skipper at the most vulnerable moment in his career. He has moved on. MSD needs to move on. He needs to also learn from Clarke and Smith on how to handle seniors.
Look at Dhoni's batting average in the last 2 years, other than a century against hapless Windies his performance with the bat is pathetic. His captaincy is average. HE will do good if the bastmen or bowlers do well or there is very little contribution from him. He is not good technically, only fit for 1-day or 20-20 cricket, but must be dropped from test cricket. Gambhir can be made the captain. Sehwag can drop to middle order. Rahane should open, other middle order can be - Pujara, Raina, Yuvraj, Badri, and a good batsman WK.
Dhoni should focus on 1-day and 20-20 cricket. Otherwise, he will again score some 100s on placid Indian pitches and prolong his test career to the detriment of the team.
Re: Dhoni Should be DROPPED from the TEST team
by mohan on Aug 23, 2012 04:34 AM
Both Azhar and Ganguly have hit out strongly against MSD's test cricket captaincy and skills.
Re: Dhoni Should be DROPPED from the TEST team
by sreenivas on Aug 23, 2012 07:53 AM
I agree for this. He is not fit/suite for tests. Team India test ranking improved from 8 to 2 in Ganguly's Captaincy. Dhoni just take that performing team and got test ranking 1.
Re: East or West, MSD is THE BEST!
by Swarnendu Aditya on Aug 23, 2012 01:54 AM
your memory is short, too short...SG is the best ever captain in India....
If Team wins, its Dhoni's effort...if team looses,then blame seniors using media help..Its nonsense from Dhoni and BCCI..why team today reached its high (just few time back)..is from efforts of Sachin,Rahul,Kumble,Laxman and Saurav...Dhoni just enjoyed the grown tree now, He was simple guy with grt power..but fame and ads and money made him politician...now batting aggression lost but politics increased..Dhoni, one day u too will recieve same treatment like Laxmn...How can a person behave with Laxman...? ..List is too long now..Sehwag,Gambhir,Saurav,LKaxman and so on.....:(
Re: Dhoni and double standrds
by darth on Aug 23, 2012 01:02 AM
what a view...!!! except sachin... can you name any of the seniors who were there in the worldcup team when we won? So when we were whitewashed 8-0 by aussies and england, most of them were there. So it is right that that when team fails, it is seniors dhoni are responsible...
Young guns need to be given more opportunities before they are 30 years because than their body is just not fit enough to compete with the likes of cricketers from Australia, SA and England. You need to to be young to dive around and run quickly between the wickets. Laxman was poor in both these departments. I agree he saved India on 8-10 occasions for which I really appreciate him. But we should not assume that their is no youngster who can not perform as well as him. If people think like that than even Sachin Tendulkar would not have got the chance to play for India at the age of 15.
Re: Laxman was a good cricketer but he retired at the right time
by mohan on Aug 23, 2012 04:53 AM
Agree but have to mention one point - you mentioned 8-10 times. Which is not true. But let us take that as truth. Now let us look at MoM awards. VVSL compares with legendary Sunil Gavaskar on equal path. VVSL was given 6 MoM awards and 1 player of the series award in tests and 4 MoM awards in ODI. Do you know how many MoM awards Gavaskar got in tests ? A mere 5. Only Kapil Dev, the all-rounder has done better than either of them in this department.
VVSL is not just a 'good cricketer' but 'extremely good cricketer', a class beyond comparison. He's an unsung hero but the last classic batsman and a matchwinner at that.
"But it is a bitter truth that India is world class in cricket only."
"WORLD CLASS".......... hmmm.... what do u mean by the term "world class" ?????? a world that comprises of 9 countries out of which 5 are third world countries....
Buddy, thank our stars that most of the european, latin american and african nations, US, Canada, China, Japan, Korea, etc etc do not play this useless, lazy colonial game of cricket. The day they announce their intentions to play this game ( I hope they never do ), India will be ranked at the bottom of the table in cricket...
Re: @Deshbhakt Hindu
by Deshbhakth Hindu on Aug 22, 2012 11:10 PM
Tell me how many countries play squash, ice hockey, hand ball, rugby ? A handful of them. But still they have world cup. For your information world class does not mean that all countries have to play that game. It means that you are one of the best who plays that game.
Re: Re: @Deshbhakt Hindu
by Mahendra on Aug 22, 2012 11:16 PM
Deshbhakt Hindu: plz do not mix up the names of those gr8 sports with a sport like cricket.
u do not need to wait for 5 days to get a result in rugby, squash, ice hockey and all those beautiful games that u have mentioned.
The reason most of the world choose to ignore this cheap, silly game of cricket is bcoz they know its a lazy man's game that has no international standing whatsover...
G.B. Shaw himself once quoted that this silly game is played by 11 f00ls and watched by 11000 f00ls...
Re: Re: Re: @Deshbhakt Hindu
by Deshbhakth Hindu on Aug 22, 2012 11:21 PM
I pity your ignorance. Every game and sport is unique. But the bitter truth is cricket is followed in India more than any other sport. You are fooling yourself if you think otherwise.
Re: Re: Re: Re: @Deshbhakt Hindu
by Deshbhakth Hindu on Aug 22, 2012 11:23 PM
And armchair experts like you will always find a way to blame cricket for India's failures in other sports.
Re: Re: Re: Re: @Deshbhakt Hindu
by Mahendra on Aug 22, 2012 11:26 PM
yes indian fans have no option, but to watch this lazy man's game..... due to which our so called h0ll0w stars r driving Ferraris, merc, bmw's and living in plush penthouses... these ppl do not even deserve 5% of the attention that they get.....
btw, i am sure cricket as a sport will not survive for long. it is only a craze in the sub-continent, bcoz ppl here have no other choice... its like a frog in a well scenario.....
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @Deshbhakt Hindu
by Deshbhakth Hindu on Aug 22, 2012 11:30 PM
Hahahahaha. And you feel Indians will watch archery, athletics, football, hockey, table tennis, etc even after we come last in the standings. Grow up.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @Deshbhakt Hindu
by Mahendra on Aug 22, 2012 11:35 PM
DH: keep watching cricket.... no one is gonna stop you....
our cricket admin very well understands that there r ever gullibe ppl like u due to which these h0ll0w stars will make a fortune inspite of not being worthy of it...
soon we will be the only nation playing cricket and would be world number 1 as we have no competition.... that would make p00r souls like u quite happy.......
Re: Re: Re: Re: @Deshbhakt Hindu
by kareem on Aug 22, 2012 11:26 PM
Yeah only one sportes sreelanka, pak won world cup, why we follow same? Or they are best in this world?
Re: @Deshbhakt Hindu
by kareem on Aug 22, 2012 11:23 PM
We must follow...we must see unskilled dhoni kick out talented cricketer s...our fate? Yeh....at least we must ensue quality of cricket...I dont think so...here poor indian belive unskilled dhoni has some power...media made dhoni...he earnred more than Bolt?
Re: Re: @Deshbhakt Hindu
by Deshbhakth Hindu on Aug 22, 2012 11:34 PM
@ mahendra It is not that Indians follow cricket because they have no option. It is just that we are not good in other sports and we are failures in other sports. Nobody wants to follow a sport in which we keep on coming last or we even do not qualify for final rounds.
Re: Re: Re: @Deshbhakt Hindu
by Deshbhakth Hindu on Aug 22, 2012 11:37 PM
Earning money is not the barometer for how good you are. If that is the case then David Beckham is grossly overvalued and one of the highest earning sportsman as he has failed miserably for England but done well at club level. Even Messi.
Re: Re: Re: Re: @Deshbhakt Hindu
by Deshbhakth Hindu on Aug 22, 2012 11:40 PM
@ Mahendra I watch other sports also and not only cricket. But I don't keep criticising other sports, like you people.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @Deshbhakt Hindu
by kareem on Aug 22, 2012 11:55 PM
Great u watch food ball? Superup, some of my friends asked what is maradiona (things or song) beckam had skills, but zidane earnred better than him just becasue of skills, hero no skills vs world class, world class kicked out, no skill ruling
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @Deshbhakt Hindu
by kareem on Aug 22, 2012 11:57 PM
Great u watch food ball? Superup, some of my friends asked what is maradiona (things or song) beckam had skills, but zidane earnred better than him just becasue of skills, here no skills vs world class, world class kicked out, no skill ruling
Re: Re: Re: Re: @Deshbhakt Hindu
by Mahendra on Aug 22, 2012 11:41 PM
wrt Beckham, I agree he is overpaid... But Messi, I guess is quite a talented player and the price tag he commands is quite reasonable....
nothing insane compared to our h0llow cricket stars back home....
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @Deshbhakt Hindu
by Deshbhakth Hindu on Aug 22, 2012 11:46 PM
Whatever you think about cricket will not stop cricket lovers from watching it. Ok good night. Nice discussion with you.
Re: Re: Re: @Deshbhakt Hindu
by kareem on Aug 22, 2012 11:46 PM
Hindu, we can follow but...here unskilled dhoni is idiol, something totally wrong...how dhoni earring more than great cricketer sachin? Can u show same in other real sportes?
Re: Re: Re: Re: @Deshbhakt Hindu
by siva kumar on Aug 23, 2012 02:11 AM
Earing,Just like politician . Do you know how difficult to become a politician..or atleast a ward member? sachin is a talented but cant see as a leader like Dhoni
Re: @Deshbhakt Hindu
by arvin g on Aug 23, 2012 04:52 AM
dont be a bird-brained ignorant... cricket is played by most countries now including in china... only thing is these countries are way below standard when it comes to skills and will take them decades before they cn compete with top teams...
Re: @Deshbhakt Hindu
by arvin g on Aug 23, 2012 04:54 AM
whether idiotic morons like it or not... cricket is played / watched in almost half the world...
