It is not the ugly side it is utter incompetent performance by you & your team mates. You are also like a politician who will never accept his mistakes/misdeeds & under performance. If you have any shame better quit captaincy & prove yourself as a keeper/batsmen which is not possible since Dinesh/Parthiv/Saha are better than you in that order. Till now luck has favoured You & the fab 5/4 contributed.Once they failed you are in this state. Hope you could have understand by now that you are good for nothing captain/keeper/batsmen.
Re: Dhoni
by haumaukhau on Sep 15, 2011 12:45 PM
Here is some statistics- MOM in Test / MOM in ODI / MOM in T20 / Total Sachin- 14/62/0/76 Dravid- 11/14/0/25 Viru- 8/22/0/30 Sourav- 6/31/0/37 Gambhir- 2/11/1/15 Dhoni- 1/13/0/14 Yuvi- 0/6/3/9 Raina- 0/6/2/8 Kohli- 0/5/0/5
MOS in Test / MOS in ODI / Total Sachin- 5/14/19 Dravid- 4/0/4 Viru- 5/1/6 Sourav- 3/6/9 Gambhir- 0/1/1 Dhoni- 0/2/2 Yuvi- 0/7/7 Raina- 0/0/0 Kohli- 0/0/0
Dhoni as a batsman Test Avg over all 37.0, Test avg overseas 28.0, No overseas century or match winning inning in test carrer even after playing 61 test. T-20 intnl avg- 25, Strike rate- 105, No fifty or match winning inning in entirer career even after playing 27 matches ODI- Good avg manipulated due to no. of not out innings & manipulative batting position. Even in ODI most runs scored on flat indian wicket against team like Pak/SLK & no overseas century. As a wicketkeeper- Dropped catches in almost every match.
Dhoni test average outside In WI 2006, 24 In SA 2006, 26 In AUS 2007, 17.62 In SA 2011, 35.8 ( one inning of 90 when styen/morkel was kept out of attack for 2-3 hrs) In WI 2011- 19.5 ( score of 0,16,2, 5 & 74(only one good inning when WI was operating with bowlers like bishoo/chandrapaul & front line bowler rampaul/shammi etc was resting due to injury). In Eng 2011- 30.0 (present series)
As a captain good record only on indian pitches. Overseas he has lost more test matches(06) than what he won(05)
Re: useless dhoni
by Sunil Vaidya on Sep 14, 2011 10:38 AM
idiot Ashish where did you get these stats. You gadha it is because of dhoni india is winning and dhoni single handed win t20 wc and 2011 wc. first get some knowledge then comment.dhoni is the best keeper and batsman we ever have.why dont learn abc of cricket before opening your mouth here?
Re: Re: useless dhoni
by sivanandam lakshmanan on Sep 14, 2011 02:36 PM
You fool it is only the bowlers who win T20 wc & the WC 2011 is fixed like IPL 3 as it is played in Bombay. Dhoni batted well since it is in INDIAN flat pitch. If the ball rises above knee our players will be like fish out of water.
Re: Re: useless dhoni
by sivanandam lakshmanan on Sep 14, 2011 02:40 PM
Hare sunil,it is only you are gadha.See cricinfo statistics which will high light the poor records of Dhoni & his f---k buddies raina,praveen,munaf,jadeja,yusuf & their contribution even though the ba------ds were given mor than sufficient& continuous chances unlike rohit,pujara,badri,vijay,ashwin,mukund etc etc.
Re: useless dhoni
by Tin Tin on Sep 14, 2011 12:44 AM
The ODI &T20 match were Exciting Cricket matches. THIS SHOWS WHY India& poor countries MUST ban Test Cricket& 3 day macthes forever&Play ONLY ODI matches& T20 matches On Holidays or Week_ends ONLY so that millions of man or woman hours are NOT lost watching monotonous Test cricket& 3 day macthes,etc.It is possible that This game of cricket lasting many days was invented by British looters like inventing british double agent mahatma gandhee& dirty trick of non-violence, to fool people of colonies& to make them lazy&morrrons FOREVER too by addciting them with all types of dirty tricks. BCCI& rulers are still behaving as slaves of Westerners, shame they have appointed white skinned westerners as coach,etc paying millions of dollars though we have excellent indian coaches like jimmy amarnath, madan lal,etc who can do better jobs than foreigners.BCCI& government must NOT allow more than 2 foreign players in each team&Give greater opportunity to indians.Shame that BCCI& rulers are behaving as slaves of westerners even now or are they getting huge kick-backs in the deals involving forein players,etc,Millions of cricket fans mustNOT allow our country to be looted again by foreigners&foreign agents.Hope millions of indians are listening& give justice to indian public& to national honour&pride too.
The result is due to selection of crap from Tamil Nadu and keep on testing the crap Tamil Nadu players. Too Many craps from Tamil Nadu. Mukund, Badri, Vijay, Ashwin. More than indian talent team can handle. The result is booming losses in tests and in ODIs. If you select crap, then you have to expect Crap results. How you can expect indian team to win tests by 4-0 with greatest opener on earth Mr Mukund. As long as Tamil Nadu crap is getting selected, india is going to lose only. There is so much crap that indian team can take. Beyond that, it is doomsday only
Re: This is what happens if u select Tamil Nadu Crap players
by ASHISH KUMAR on Sep 13, 2011 08:50 PM
northy dhoni is biggest crap- mr reddy
Dhoni as a batsman Test Avg over all 37.0, Test avg overseas 28.0, No overseas century or match winning inning in test carrer even after playing 61 test. T-20 intnl avg- 25, Strike rate- 105, No fifty or match winning inning in entirer career even after playing 27 matches ODI- Good avg manipulated due to no. of not out innings & manipulative batting position. Even in ODI most runs scored on flat indian wicket against team like Pak/SLK & no overseas century. As a wicketkeeper- Dropped catches in almost every match.
Dhoni test average outside In WI 2006, 24 In SA 2006, 26 In AUS 2007, 17.62 In SA 2011, 35.8 ( one inning of 90 when styen/morkel was kept out of attack for 2-3 hrs) In WI 2011- 19.5 ( score of 0,16,2, 5 & 74(only one good inning when WI was operating with bowlers like bishoo/chandrapaul & front line bowler rampaul/shammi etc was resting due to injury). In Eng 2011- 30.0 (present series)
As a captain good record only on indian pitches. Overseas he has lost more test matches(06) than what he won(05)
Re: Re: This is what happens if u select Tamil Nadu Crap players
by santosh deshpande on Sep 14, 2011 06:51 AM
yes . Srikanth is d parasite. Until he is there, indian team will keep on going downhill
Re: Re: This is what happens if u select Tamil Nadu Crap players
by Sunil Vaidya on Sep 14, 2011 10:38 AM
idiot Ashish where did you get these stats. You gadha it is because of dhoni india is winning and dhoni single handed win t20 wc and 2011 wc. first get some knowledge then comment.dhoni is the best keeper and batsman we ever have.why dont learn abc of cricket before opening your mouth here?
Re: This is what happens if u select Tamil Nadu Crap players
by sivanandam lakshmanan on Sep 14, 2011 02:52 PM
Mr.Reddy,what is the contribution of your own VVS in tests & ODI 7 he is a lazy fellow in fielding. See cricinfo statistics & don't be a crap or fool.
Re: again blunder from rediff
by santosh deshpande on Sep 14, 2011 06:50 AM
sanjeev , u r right on target . During d first rain interruption, england had scored less than d duckworth par score of 235.
Mr Dhoni seems to have forgotten that he refused to go for a win in the last test in West Indies this year and accepted a draw instead. Was that not ugly?
The question is ... did Dhoni make it "different" or did he make it "large".
The opinion may vary from which region of India you come from. But the fact is that Dhoni has failed to emerge as a winner after the departure of Gary Kirsten.
By now, its clear that Dhoni owes his success to master strategy by Kirsten who was ably assisted by Venkatesh Prasad and Robin Singh.
He also owes his success to team play by a combination of experienced & younger players:
* All round performance by the "Man of the Series" Yuvraj Singh who dominated the opposition with solid batting, aggressive fielding, and surprising success with spin bowling
* World class fast bowling by Zaheer Khan who managed to break opening partnerships and took wickets when needed
* Economical and restraining bowling by Harbhajan who took wickets and wealded bat when needed.
* Masterly and consistent batting by Sachin Tendulkar
* Super fielding and batting by young Virat Kohli supported by Yusuf Pathan, Gautam Gambhir, Suresh Raina, and Virender Sehwag
* Supporting bowling by Munaf Patel, Ashish Nehra, and Amit Misra.
Now take away Zaheer, Yuvraj, Kohli, Yusuf, & Harbhajan. Retire Dravid, Laxman, Tendulkar, & Sehwag. Replace them with players from Tamilnadu - with gratitude to Srinivasan and Shrikkanth. What do you get?
Re: Can it get uglier?
by Sunil Vaidya on Sep 13, 2011 01:45 PM
Arv Singh
Very fault analysis indeed!
During the last 5-6 years dhoni has been playing he achieved a lot individually and for the team.
Dhoni batting and captaincy career is absolutely fantastic. And he has a big share in the fortunes of indian cricket during these years.
Arv Singh, take dhoni away from captaincy and as a player. put somebody like parthiv, karthik or saha in his place and all that we have achieved in the past 5-6 years we would not have achieved.
if instead of dhoni either of the above or for that matter dravid, uttapa or whoever you want what would be the result? No 2011 odi WC, No T20WC, No win in tri-series in aus...
we will have to go back to the days when we had average wicketkeepers not somebody like dhoni...if in the last 5-6 years there would have been your normal indian wicketkeeper before dhoni's coming the result of the past 3 years would have been like rseults of the past. Not no. 1 test status, Not no. 1 odi status, Not no 1. in T20 and no winning of any major test series and odi tournaments or series...
Re: Re: Can it get uglier?
by Sunil Vaidya on Sep 13, 2011 01:52 PM
BTW Arv Singh it will also be interesting to see what would happened if ponting had played without langer, hayden, clarke, hussey, smymmonds,mcgrath, warne lee, gilchrist etc.
it would be also interesting to find out what would happen if llyod had played without greenidge, haynes, richards, gomes, marshall, dujon, holding, garner, and others..
similarly it would also be interesting to find out what would happen if strauss ahd played without cook, trott, bell, pietersen, broad, morgan, bresnan, swann, finn, anderson and others
and so on for imran khan, steve waugh, border, kapil, sangakarra, fleming, cronje, ranatunga, bradman and every other good or great captain...
Re: Re: Re: Can it get uglier?
by haumaukhau on Sep 13, 2011 07:28 PM
Sunil gadha then why did you always comment that dhoni single handed win 2011 WC and T-20 Wc? Now don't say you did not comment like this...it was your fake. We know there is only one sunil gadha with multiple ID.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Can it get uglier?
by Sunil Vaidya on Sep 14, 2011 04:37 PM
haumaukhau i never said dhoni single handedly won 2011 wc and t20 wc. if a gadha like u wants to believe that what can i do. it is donkeys like you who write here with multiple ids. i write only under my vaidya id. and somebody is impersonating me for the last around one week. if you dont believe it thats ok with me. i know i am speaking the truth and that is enough for me. i dont care what the rest of the world thinks. never did and will never do.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can it get uglier?
by haumaukhau on Sep 15, 2011 10:16 AM
Sunil,gadha we have watched before your comments that dhoni single handedly won 2011 wc and t20 wc. You are writing here with multiple ID and saying you did not comment. I have only one ID everybody knows. Check your past comments bhanyas.
Re: Re: Can it get uglier?
by ASHISH KUMAR on Sep 13, 2011 08:38 PM
Dhoni as a batsman Test Avg over all 37.0, Test avg overseas 28.0, No overseas century or match winning inning in test carrer even after playing 61 test. T-20 intnl avg- 25, Strike rate- 105, No fifty or match winning inning in entirer career even after playing 27 matches ODI- Good avg manipulated due to no. of not out innings & manipulative batting position. Even in ODI most runs scored on flat indian wicket against team like Pak/SLK & no overseas century. As a wicketkeeper- Dropped catches in almost every match.
Dhoni test average outside In WI 2006, 24 In SA 2006, 26 In AUS 2007, 17.62 In SA 2011, 35.8 ( one inning of 90 when styen/morkel was kept out of attack for 2-3 hrs) In WI 2011- 19.5 ( score of 0,16,2, 5 & 74(only one good inning when WI was operating with bowlers like bishoo/chandrapaul & front line bowler rampaul/shammi etc was resting due to injury). In Eng 2011- 30.0 (present series)
As a captain good record only on indian pitches. Overseas he has lost more test matches(06) than what he won(05)
Re: Re: Re: Can it get uglier?
by Sunil Vaidya on Sep 14, 2011 10:39 AM
idiot Ashish where did you get these stats. You gadha it is because of dhoni india is winning and dhoni single handed win t20 wc and 2011 wc. first get some knowledge then comment.dhoni is the best keeper and batsman we ever have.why dont learn abc of cricket before opening your mouth here?
Re: Can it get uglier?
by Varun on Sep 13, 2011 11:03 AM
lol. You will see if your theory is right soon. Rather than kirsten, it is lack of availability if good players that is hampering. Poor analysis buddy.
kick tendulkar, laxman out of test team. Tell vada pav tendulkar to retire once and for all. Greediest guy in this world I must say plays whenever he feels like and attends wimbledon with family. Should'nt he be with his team in WI at least coaching or giving tips. But I guess he is not that great as he is meant to. And rediff compares him with Federer. Federer has probably never seen a cricket match because first its a gentle, non-atheletic sport that anyone cay play. And in spite of that India can't win a single match in England.
Re: world chumpions only in india
by Varun on Sep 12, 2011 11:03 PM
yeah. eng champions only in england. same deal. But you just love them for some hidden reason. slavery ?
Re: world chumpions only in india
by kalyan krishnan on Sep 13, 2011 06:48 AM
And allow his son to bowl to the top class Indian players in the nets. It shows how serious the net practice sessions are. The result is the present England series. Why should his son be there in the first place? Can they allow other players' family members also on the ground or net practice with the Indian team? Why this special treatment for Tendulkar? Or was it Tendulkar who pressurised the Indian Management?
Re: Re: world chumpions only in india
by silver mani on Sep 13, 2011 09:50 AM
Come on Guys he is Hon Group Captain in Indian Air Force and a future Bharat Ratna and also GOD.Be Reasonable
Re: world chumpions only in india
by ASHISH KUMAR on Sep 13, 2011 08:41 PM
The question is ... did Dhoni make it "different" or did he make it "large".
The opinion may vary from which region of India you come from. But the fact is that Dhoni has failed to emerge as a winner after the departure of Gary Kirsten.
By now, its clear that Dhoni owes his success to master strategy by Kirsten who was ably assisted by Venkatesh Prasad and Robin Singh.
He also owes his success to team play by a combination of experienced & younger players:
* All round performance by the "Man of the Series" Yuvraj Singh who dominated the opposition with solid batting, aggressive fielding, and surprising success with spin bowling
* World class fast bowling by Zaheer Khan who managed to break opening partnerships and took wickets when needed
* Economical and restraining bowling by Harbhajan who took wickets and wealded bat when needed.
* Masterly and consistent batting by Sachin Tendulkar
* Super fielding and batting by young Virat Kohli supported by Yusuf Pathan, Gautam Gambhir, Suresh Raina, and Virender Sehwag
* Supporting bowling by Munaf Patel, Ashish Nehra, and Amit Misra.
Now take away Zaheer, Yuvraj, Kohli, Yusuf, & Harbhajan. Retire Dravid, Laxman, Tendulkar, & Sehwag. Replace them with players from Tamilnadu - with gratitude to Srinivasan and Shrikkanth. What do you get?
