Only best batsman of any team open batting in ODI/T-20 & bats at no.3 or no.4 in test. It is a hard known fact. Dhoni started his career as opener only with some success also agianst b grade pak bowling on indian pitch. But once his limited batting ability was exposed, he was not alloowed to do opening. Now after he took captaincy- still he couldn\'t dare to open inning in any format of game because he himself knows about his limited batting ability & it is not good for his team. He doesn\' dare to open even in IPL. he knows it is most difficult thing to do is opening & playing in top order & he can\'t survive there against quality bowler. Even parthiv patel can do better opening than ordinary dhoni. Make dhoni opener in all format of game- his carrer will finished within 1 yrs as he will never last more than 2 overs agianst quality bowling. Batting at his position is easiest thing to do. In IPLmany of captains & wicketkeeper like sachin, gambhir, patel, gilly, sangarkara,mclumn, etc has opened the ining but dhoni never dared to do it because of his team interest( he knows he can\'t last long & opener has large role to play in any win in ODI/T-20)
The ex players may have good reasons including assignments with BCCI to praise him but his keeping has never been to the mark.The biggest reason for flop show in England was his retched keeping that made bowlers very insecure.He must have dropped a dozen easy catches in test series besides stumping.He is a very good captain & ODI batsman but an average test batsman.
Re: He is a mediocre keeper
by Sunil Vaidya on Nov 07, 2011 08:45 PM
pradeep agarwal, sachin must paying you a bomb to exaggerate his non performance and downplay dhoni's awesome performance...
Re: He is a mediocre keeper
by kareem on Nov 07, 2011 09:36 PM
Dear dhoni is below average bateman and captain, he was totally cluless in real cricket pitch, I never seen this kind defeat when we got in england, cricket eventhogh, third worlds game, do u have any doubt? Tell me anther one main stream game that sreelanka and pak can win world cup? Here unskilled, gully players dominating in flat track s, y last 2 world cup final jndia defeted the best sreelanka and pak what a pitty, in world sport s we know what they are, y this happens? Nothing else we can play in flat track even 7 , nation sportes cricket,
Re: He is a mediocre keeper
by Sreekanth Nemani on Nov 07, 2011 09:57 PM
So, can you explain how dhoni has 200 wickets in only 62 tests, while our supposedly greatest wicketkeeper kirmani has 198 in 88 tests?? Also if you look at the statistics, among indian keepers dhoni has the highest number of wickets per match (if you exclude people who have played less than 10 tests).
Re: He is a mediocre keeper
by Ravi Kiran on Nov 07, 2011 10:12 PM
Pradeep you mostly right, apart from average test batsmen which I disagree, you need to bear in mind Dhoni hardly gets chances to bat long in a test match with his number he has bat with tail more often than not,Dujon has his boxes to tick but what he said is right, Dhoni is one of the modern day greats and perhaps the best when it come to a package in the world,Dhoni's keeping in Test cricket is a work in prgress and I sure he himself admitted that !!
Gilly is the benchmark for wicketkeepers for the next 100 years.....Dhoni can go past him....But it won't be easy........He needs to continue the good work.....
Re: THERE ONE PERSON DHONI HAS TO MATCH-----GILLY
by Sunil Vaidya on Nov 07, 2011 08:47 PM
yes dhoni can go past gilly's record in keeping and also better his one day record....certainly dhoni is a better odi batsman than gilchrist...
Re: Re: THERE ONE PERSON DHONI HAS TO MATCH-----GILLY
by kareem on Nov 07, 2011 09:47 PM
True do you know what you talking arbout? Even dhoni will surprised arbout your finding what a world this is?
Re: Re: Re: THERE ONE PERSON DHONI HAS TO MATCH-----GILLY
by Sunil Vaidya on Nov 07, 2011 11:16 PM
i know what i am talking about. wait till dhoni goes past gilchrist total no. of runs in odi in less innings than him. that too most of the times batting low down the order that is no. 5 or even lower. while we know batting position of gilchrist in odis...
Re: Re: Re: Re: THERE ONE PERSON DHONI HAS TO MATCH-----GILLY
by Happy Friday on Nov 08, 2011 12:35 AM
Dude, Gilly is a legend. Dhoni is no way near to him in keeping or batting but Dhoni has better leadership than Gilly. I would like to see Dhoni improves in what Gilly is strong.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: THERE ONE PERSON DHONI HAS TO MATCH-----GILLY
by Sunil Vaidya on Nov 08, 2011 09:17 AM
people sometimes put some people on a pedestal and are so enamoured by their qualities that they sometimes dont recognise others who are better than their idols...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: THERE ONE PERSON DHONI HAS TO MATCH-----GILLY
by ASHISH KUMAR on Nov 08, 2011 12:51 AM
Only best batsman of any team open batting in ODI/T-20 & bats at no.3 or no.4 in test. It is a hard known fact. Dhoni started his career as opener only with some success that also agianst b grade pak bowling on indian pitch. But once his limited batting ability was exposed, he was not allowed to do opening. Now after he took captaincy- still he couldn't dare to open inning in any format of game because he himself knows about his limited batting ability & it is not good for his team. He doesn' dare to open even in IPL. he knows it is most difficult thing to do is opening & playing in top order & he can't survive there against quality bowler. Even parthiv patel can do better opening than ordinary dhoni. Make dhoni opener in all format of game- his carrer will finished within 1 yrs as he will never last more than 2 overs agianst quality bowling. Batting at his position is easiest thing to do. In IPL many of captains & wicketkeeper like sachin, gambhir, patel, gilly, sangarkara,mclumn, etc has opened the ining but dhoni never dared to do it because of his team interest( he knows he can't last long & opener has large role to play in any win in ODI/T-20
Re: Re: THERE ONE PERSON DHONI HAS TO MATCH-----GILLY
by RKN on Nov 07, 2011 09:57 PM
come on, please dont compare Gilly with anyone. He is one of the best things happened in cricket after King Viv.
