once again the difference between the attitude of dhoni and sachin is clear...
dhoni is a person who always puts team interest before self. for him team performance is more important than individual performance. for the sake of the team he is ready to take a back seat when the occasion demands...he is ready to sacrifice individual records/performance if team comes out the winner....
for sachin individual performance/record takes precedence over team interest...for sachin his self interest always comes before team benefit...in the interest of the team he will not let his personal records be lost...if for individual records team interest needs to sacrificed he will not mind it....
Re: dhoni vs sachin
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 31, 2011 05:29 PM
Dhoni facts as follows 1)Basis for this point calculation is simply based on strike rate & doesn't give true picture. (Its very easy to play few 20 ball 30 run inning in slog over of T-20 match specially on flat track & when weak bowlers operating. It will give u a good strike rate).
2)Now If you analyze data properly- u will find the answer- Dhoni has succeeded in 4 out of 15 IPL matches he played in IPL-4 so far (considering 30 score as good in T-20)
All 4 good scores came against weakest bowling attack team of IPL like DD/KXIP/RR/RCB
Also 90% of runs scored when bowlers like Amit singh, Trivedi, Agarkar, Arvind , Mithun, Srivastav etc operating
All good innings run scored batting 1st (no pressure) & on flat batting wicket of banglore/delhi/Jaipur/Mohali.
Against good bowling attack like DC/MI/KKR/KTK, he didn't score good in a single match
I mean he never scored well against good bowler like Malinga, Styen, Lee, Amit mishra etc even in IPL.
On bowler friendly wicket like Calcutta, Mumbai, Chennai, Kochi (earlier half)- he failed in all matches with bat.
In fact when CSK was struggling against KKR on calcutta pitch (very low turn & bounce)- Dhoni hided himself in pavilion & promoted other players as batting condition was tough. he didn't even come to bat for 20 overs & CSK lost that match
Also only one out 15 inning has fetched him MOM award while Gyle ha
Re: dhoni vs sachin
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 31, 2011 05:31 PM
Dhoni facts as follows 1)Basis for this point calculation is simply based on strike rate & doesn't give true picture. (Its very easy to play few 20 ball 30 run inning in slog over of T-20 match specially on flat track & when weak bowlers operating. It will give u a good strike rate).
2)Now If you analyze data properly- u will find the answer- Dhoni has succeeded in 4 out of 15 IPL matches he played in IPL-4 so far (considering 30 score as good in T-20)
All 4 good scores came against weakest bowling attack team of IPL like DD/KXIP/RR/RCB
Also 90% of runs scored when bowlers like Amit singh, Trivedi, Agarkar, Arvind , Mithun, Srivastav etc operating
All good innings run scored batting 1st (no pressure) & on flat batting wicket of banglore/delhi/Jaipur/Mohali.
Against good bowling attack like DC/MI/KKR/KTK, he didn't score good in a single match
I mean he never scored well against good bowler like Malinga, Styen, Lee, Amit mishra etc even in IPL.
On bowler friendly wicket like Calcutta, Mumbai, Chennai, Kochi (earlier half)- he failed in all matches with bat.
In fact when CSK was struggling against KKR on calcutta pitch (very low turn & bounce)- Dhoni hided himself in pavilion & promoted other players as batting condition was tough. he didn't even come to bat for 20 overs & CSK lost that match
Also only one out 15 inning has fetched him MOM award while Gyle ha
The MVPI is definitely flawed. The list hardly has any names from CSK in the top bracket notwithstanding the fact that CSK was the most consistent team and finally won the cup. And how has the contribution of Dhoni as captain been taken into account? How do you quantify the Midas touch?
Re: sachin is the best
by gegong apang on May 30, 2011 06:08 PM
Sachin fails under pressure. Sachin has poor record while chasing. In the wolrd cup final, he failed again while chasing.
Re: Re: sachin is the best
by arvin g on May 31, 2011 08:44 AM
if he did not score in semi-finals then there will be no final to chase and u stray street barking dogz will be barking that he could not take india to finals...
Re: not a right justification
by gegong apang on May 30, 2011 06:10 PM
You are 100% wrong. Gayle has has performed with both bat and ball in fewer innings compared to S Marsh.
Re: Re: Balthokerey said
by Sunil Vaidya on May 30, 2011 09:39 PM
yes dhoni is one true indian player. always wanting his team to win. thank god at last we have to somebody like dhoni in our team. hopefully losers like sachin will not be in the the team for too long...
we need more winners like dhoni in our team. we are sick of players like sachin with their losers attitude....
Re: Re: Re: Balthokerey said
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 31, 2011 05:28 PM
Dhoni facts as follows 1)Basis for this point calculation is simply based on strike rate & doesn't give true picture. (Its very easy to play few 20 ball 30 run inning in slog over of T-20 match specially on flat track & when weak bowlers operating. It will give u a good strike rate).
2)Now If you analyze data properly- u will find the answer- Dhoni has succeeded in 4 out of 15 IPL matches he played in IPL-4 so far (considering 30 score as good in T-20)
All 4 good scores came against weakest bowling attack team of IPL like DD/KXIP/RR/RCB
Also 90% of runs scored when bowlers like Amit singh, Trivedi, Agarkar, Arvind , Mithun, Srivastav etc operating
All good innings run scored batting 1st (no pressure) & on flat batting wicket of banglore/delhi/Jaipur/Mohali.
Against good bowling attack like DC/MI/KKR/KTK, he didn't score good in a single match
I mean he never scored well against good bowler like Malinga, Styen, Lee, Amit mishra etc even in IPL.
On bowler friendly wicket like Calcutta, Mumbai, Chennai, Kochi (earlier half)- he failed in all matches with bat.
In fact when CSK was struggling against KKR on calcutta pitch (very low turn & bounce)- Dhoni hided himself in pavilion & promoted other players as batting condition was tough. he didn't even come to bat for 20 overs & CSK lost that match
Also only one out 15 inning has fetched him MOM award while Gyle ha
Re: Re: Re: Re: Balthokerey said
by Sunil Vaidya on May 31, 2011 05:03 PM
arvin g it is you who always barks at indian players who toil for india and bring it laurels.
idiots like you dont appreciate dhoni and other players and have no shame in licking sachin's a@@ and crediting him with things for which he does not deserve credit.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Balthokerey said
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 31, 2011 05:22 PM
Arvin . Ignore this vaidya. he has some mental issue & next election agent for dhoni. There are 100 of players better than dhoni at prsesnt in world cricket including many indians but this mental sunil vaidya has dhoni disease & sachin phobia. Respect his IQ level(being a politicial fan) & ignore his comments to enjoy sports.
Re: Re: Re: Balthokerey said
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 31, 2011 05:27 PM
Dhoni facts as follows 1)Basis for this point calculation is simply based on strike rate & doesn't give true picture. (Its very easy to play few 20 ball 30 run inning in slog over of T-20 match specially on flat track & when weak bowlers operating. It will give u a good strike rate).
2)Now If you analyze data properly- u will find the answer- Dhoni has succeeded in 4 out of 15 IPL matches he played in IPL-4 so far (considering 30 score as good in T-20)
All 4 good scores came against weakest bowling attack team of IPL like DD/KXIP/RR/RCB
Also 90% of runs scored when bowlers like Amit singh, Trivedi, Agarkar, Arvind , Mithun, Srivastav etc operating
All good innings run scored batting 1st (no pressure) & on flat batting wicket of banglore/delhi/Jaipur/Mohali.
Against good bowling attack like DC/MI/KKR/KTK, he didn't score good in a single match
I mean he never scored well against good bowler like Malinga, Styen, Lee, Amit mishra etc even in IPL.
On bowler friendly wicket like Calcutta, Mumbai, Chennai, Kochi (earlier half)- he failed in all matches with bat.
In fact when CSK was struggling against KKR on calcutta pitch (very low turn & bounce)- Dhoni hided himself in pavilion & promoted other players as batting condition was tough. he didn't even come to bat for 20 overs & CSK lost that match
Also only one out 15 inning has fetched him MOM award while Gyle ha
Re: Re: Re: Balthokerey said
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 31, 2011 05:27 PM
Dhoni facts as follows 1)Basis for this point calculation is simply based on strike rate & doesn't give true picture. (Its very easy to play few 20 ball 30 run inning in slog over of T-20 match specially on flat track & when weak bowlers operating. It will give u a good strike rate).
2)Now If you analyze data properly- u will find the answer- Dhoni has succeeded in 4 out of 15 IPL matches he played in IPL-4 so far (considering 30 score as good in T-20)
All 4 good scores came against weakest bowling attack team of IPL like DD/KXIP/RR/RCB
Also 90% of runs scored when bowlers like Amit singh, Trivedi, Agarkar, Arvind , Mithun, Srivastav etc operating
All good innings run scored batting 1st (no pressure) & on flat batting wicket of banglore/delhi/Jaipur/Mohali.
Against good bowling attack like DC/MI/KKR/KTK, he didn't score good in a single match
I mean he never scored well against good bowler like Malinga, Styen, Lee, Amit mishra etc even in IPL.
On bowler friendly wicket like Calcutta, Mumbai, Chennai, Kochi (earlier half)- he failed in all matches with bat.
In fact when CSK was struggling against KKR on calcutta pitch (very low turn & bounce)- Dhoni hided himself in pavilion & promoted other players as batting condition was tough. he didn't even come to bat for 20 overs & CSK lost that match
Also only one out 15 inning has fetched him MOM award while Gyle ha
Re: award for
by manoj kumar on May 30, 2011 04:03 PM
gayle is better choice then others because it's our country's old fashion to sleep with wi players
