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Testing times ahead for the umpiring DRS


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Abrakadabra
UDRS is just missing common sence
by Abrakadabra on Mar 22, 2011 05:46 PM  | Hide replies

I think UDRS is good, but has been implemented without common sence. Let me give 2 examples:
1. Trott's catch against WI: He caught on the boundary and claimed it to be clean. The available replays did not show any evidence of boundary line (Rope, Cardboard prisms) being disturbed. Trott said he did not touch the rope. Why was it declared a 6? This is just because the camera could not capture any frame where there is a clear gap between the rope and Trott. That does not mean Trott touched the rope. Now the good old benefit of doubt was given to the batsman. My point: There was no evidence of any disturbance of the rope, cardboard prisms. Then where is the doubt?
2. Ian Bell's survival: Nobody knew the 2.5 m rule before it happened. That means UDRS was implemented without proper briefing. Later some umpires ignored 2.5 m rule. What it means is such a situtation was never cotemplated in the trials.

There are many such issues with UDRS. Unless all of them have ironed out, there will be opposition for the same. I think it is introduced for this WC in a hurry.

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Against Pseudos
Re: UDRS is just missing common sence
by Against Pseudos on Mar 23, 2011 04:56 AM
:) "..the camera could NOT capture any frame where there is a clear gap between the rope and Trott."

Is that not a doubt? :)

Whereas some umpires might have ignored the 2.5 m rule; it very much has been there; and many cricket fans knew it courtesy cricinfo; when the "BCCI against UDRS" episode came up before the SA series. The article mentioned inventor of Hawkeye who said that the 2.5 m rule was actually there as the "margin of error" in the computer simulation of the projected path would be significant enough to leave the decision to the on-field umpire.
This was actually a safeguard in the system, coz if you notice, BCCI has been maintaining all along that Hawkeye is NOT AT ALL accurate, hence they reject it.
What was funny was that N Srinivasan took the first opportunity to inform ICC that Hawkeye was absolutely accurate even at 2.5 m the moment India could take advantage of that decision... :)

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damodaran mohan
UDRS NEEDS TO BE PERFECTED TROUGH PRACTICE
by damodaran mohan on Mar 22, 2011 01:03 PM  | Hide replies

The DRS system has just been introduced and it should be given some fair trial before passing any adverse judgement. One cannot expect overnight 100% efficacy of the system right from the word go.But it is a fact the % of right decisions have improved substantially and the teams can play w/o fear that any single crucial decision would completely change the result one way or the other the way it has been happening earlier.The DRS has had one or two very positive effects.The umpires would be very careful not to get their decisions overturned and this would automatically improve umpiring standards by several notches.Even faintest 'nick' catches can be better judged and players may think twice before staying on for the opposing team to ask for review.Overall,there would be some instances where the review might not be conclusive but still the number of wrong decisions will certainly be reduced.

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deep deep
Re: UDRS NEEDS TO BE PERFECTED TROUGH PRACTICE
by deep deep on Mar 22, 2011 01:51 PM
ICC should have think twice to make such kind of decisions of [UDRS] in such a mega event that also in world cup which comes in 4 ys gap, a silly mistake by the officals and the game can go either way. one wrong decision for a team now and the team will be out of the tournament so ICC be carefull for the pathetic decision.

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S Shrikanth
Re: Re: UDRS NEEDS TO BE PERFECTED TROUGH PRACTICE
by S Shrikanth on Mar 22, 2011 04:00 PM
Do you think the umpires can not give wrong decisions? Thats why UDRS has been brought.

UDRS is a must for this Mega Event.

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deep deep
Re: Re: Re: UDRS NEEDS TO BE PERFECTED TROUGH PRACTICE
by deep deep on Mar 22, 2011 04:08 PM
But if UDRS is getting used and 3rd Umpire is using the technology and giving the call again on, ON-FIELD UMPIRE THEN WHAT IS THE USE OF IT.

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Re: Re: UDRS NEEDS TO BE PERFECTED TROUGH PRACTICE
by Against Pseudos on Mar 23, 2011 04:57 AM
Deep Deep:

Well said.... ALL decisions (whether on field or UDRS) MUST be given in favour of India.... :)

Only then will you support the Umpires and UDRS... else they can go take a hike.... right? :)

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Sarangarajan TS
Re: UDRS NEEDS TO BE PERFECTED TROUGH PRACTICE
by Sarangarajan TS on Mar 22, 2011 01:35 PM
Yes DRS system has to be given a fair trial before the jury is out. But as Dhoni said that there should not be mixing technology with human interpretation like that happened with Bell's decision and Asoka de silva' decision against Irish player.Over all the introduction has reduced blunders.

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: UDRS NEEDS TO BE PERFECTED TROUGH PRACTICE
by Against Pseudos on Mar 23, 2011 04:58 AM
TS:

:) well said.... the computer should give the decision automatically... Else there will be mixing technology with "human interpretation" as you rightly pointed out.... :)

No need for Third Umpires or On field umpires which is most dangerous as it mixes humans in the process which is most unwanted... :)

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s mumbai
cricket...
by s mumbai on Mar 22, 2011 12:49 PM  | Hide replies

i paid rs 150 on my airtel digital tv connection to watch the cricket matches in h.d. ..
more than the clarity of matches i am happy that i dont have to view any advertisements....what a relief...will subscribe to any such thing for ipl also....
its time to move on from cable connections to dth providers...but one thing is sure...prepare to get looted for quality in return

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Sarangarajan TS
Re: cricket...
by Sarangarajan TS on Mar 22, 2011 01:26 PM
fully agree with you.

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Chirag P
Final
by Chirag P on Mar 22, 2011 12:29 PM  | Hide replies

India vs S.L.

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Rajesh Gupta
Re: Final
by Rajesh Gupta on Mar 22, 2011 12:30 PM
Good chances

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Sujatha
Semi 4 me
by Sujatha on Mar 22, 2011 11:48 AM  | Hide replies

Ind - Pak
SA - SLanka

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S Shrikanth
Re: Semi 4 me
by S Shrikanth on Mar 22, 2011 11:58 AM
Yes, the huge overdoze of commercials eating the first and last ball of the over and the replays is making the matches less interesting to watch.

Human greed is at the best in Cricket.

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sgindiasg@rediffmail.com
Re: Re: Semi 4 me
by sgindiasg@rediffmail.com on Mar 22, 2011 12:10 PM
only in India you donot have choice of choosing between non-commercial and commerical telecast. In SG we can choose.

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Sujatha
Re: Re: Semi 4 me
by Sujatha on Mar 22, 2011 12:05 PM
On my TV i can see all the 6 deliveries of an over in the world cup so far i could see. What you say was a problem before or may be it's your TV.

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Rajesh Gupta
Re: Re: Re: Semi 4 me
by Rajesh Gupta on Mar 22, 2011 12:21 PM
Actually, he was thinking of 8 balls over..

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anaida raza
Re: Re: Re: Re: Semi 4 me
by anaida raza on Mar 22, 2011 12:29 PM
He is thinking of Imaginary scores wickets and wins by players of his choice.

more of a computer game cricket.

Forgetting the real players...

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S Shrikanth
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Semi 4 me
by S Shrikanth on Mar 22, 2011 01:48 PM
Good Joke. :-))

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Rajesh Gupta
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Semi 4 me
by Rajesh Gupta on Mar 22, 2011 12:31 PM
ha ha ha

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S Shrikanth
Re: Re: Re: Semi 4 me
by S Shrikanth on Mar 22, 2011 01:47 PM
You are lucky. Seems you have subscribed to some expensive plan from your DTH operator. :-)

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Rajesh Gupta
My views for Semis
by Rajesh Gupta on Mar 22, 2011 11:44 AM  | Hide replies

Pakistan Vs Srilanka
India Vs South Afric

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sgindiasg@rediffmail.com
Re: My views for Semis
by sgindiasg@rediffmail.com on Mar 22, 2011 11:51 AM
Semis will be
Winner of Ind/AUS Vs PAK/WI VS Winner of SA/NZ Vs ENG/SL

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maheshwar metri
Re: My views for Semis
by maheshwar metri on Mar 22, 2011 12:20 PM
Hahaha.... Semis between Group C & E and D & F, But
1.India in E group and Pakistan in C group.
than its possible Pakistan Vs Srilanka
India Vs South Africa

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Rajesh Gupta
Re: Re: My views for Semis
by Rajesh Gupta on Mar 22, 2011 12:24 PM
Where is group now?

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Senthil
Re: My views for Semis
by Senthil on Mar 22, 2011 12:13 PM
Wrong Order,

Sri Lanka vs South Africa

India vs Pakistan

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Rajesh Gupta
Re: Re: My views for Semis
by Rajesh Gupta on Mar 22, 2011 12:23 PM
OK
But I was thinking, it should be between winners of
QF1 Vs. QF4
QF2 Vs. QF3

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Senthil
Re: Re: Re: My views for Semis
by Senthil on Mar 22, 2011 12:47 PM
It is

QF-3 vs QF-4 for Semi 1 and

QF1 vs QF2 for Semi 2

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Rajesh Gupta
Semis between
by Rajesh Gupta on Mar 22, 2011 11:39 AM

SL Vs. PAK Winner of QF1 and QF4
IND Vs. SAF Winner of QF2 and QF3



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chindhee chor
dhoni...
by chindhee chor on Mar 22, 2011 11:38 AM  | Hide replies

last scored century in jan 2010 and that too against bangladesh

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S Shrikanth
Re: dhoni...
by S Shrikanth on Mar 22, 2011 11:55 AM
You can not expect a batsman batting at No. 7 to score centuries in every match when the top 3 batsmen eating the first 40 overs of a 50 over match.

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: dhoni...
by Against Pseudos on Mar 22, 2011 11:56 AM
:) But you CAN expect him to score 12 runs in 27 balls... ;-)

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anaida raza
Re: Re: dhoni...
by anaida raza on Mar 22, 2011 12:41 PM
When somebody is not capable of scoring big innings frequently.
He is not sent at top of the order. Only best batsman are chosen there. OR swing bouncedance will start there.

That is common cricketing wisdom.

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anaida raza
Re: Re: dhoni...
by anaida raza on Mar 22, 2011 12:46 PM
28 runs in last 10 overs ?

Do you expect that ?


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