Bat first team has respectively reached 56/0, 62/0 and 67/0 in 20 over sets targets for chaser, by D/L method actually 148, 147 and 148. How 11 runs convert into 1 run? I am talking about 56/0 and 67/0.
Vathula is better tahn Jeyadevan or D/L: When a T20 is stopped, play a 'best of 3' super over matches with 3 diff batsmen/ bowler mix. a. you need to play only 6 overs or may be 4 only b. diff player- combination is used c. the crowd is entertained and d. fair for both teams as they play in the same conditions
Re: lenghty and useless
by Krishnakumar Narayanan on Jun 25, 2011 01:43 PM
Ideally most of the world facts should have been comprehensible in a word or two. Fortunately or unfortunately, that is not the case. Hence evolution justified.
D/L is an absolute nonsense. how can D/L be same for 2 teams. One team might be top heavy ( eg Sri lanka) and one team might be heavy in the lower middle order ( eg NZ). It has to take into consideration the averages and strike rate of players dimissed and players yet to come to be better.
Re: Get rid of these Farces!!!!
by shankar rajan on Jun 24, 2011 09:40 PM
u bloody pool!! that is strength of team not of playing conditions...so are you going to set stiffer target because second team is stronger next??? reservation category suggestion you are making!!
Re: Re: Get rid of these Farces!!!!
by Nationalistic Patriot on Jun 25, 2011 04:20 PM
no certainly not. What I mean is the team's potential should be higher if there are stronger players as it is a prediction only. For eg it says if a team is 100 /2. 100/ 2 might be diff for diff teams as they might have lost 2 pinch hittters.
Any algorithm made for 50 overs game if tried out for T20 games would not fit in accurately.For T20 game a seperate working out is required.The more the no. of overs after which the interruptions occur, the more 'level' the formula that can be worked out.Further, in respect of T20 game,for more than one interruptions,it is better to abandon the game because it is practically impossible to model similarity of conditions for calculating the runs required for the 2nd team.In the model given above the assumption of 56/0, 62/0 and 67/0 after 20 overs are generally not found in actual game.One, the score is low and zero wicket ! For low score it has to be either 56/8 or, 62/9 or 67/10 and so on. In fact in normal circumstances after 20, overs, the scores should be at least not less than 80/9 or if wicket be zero, then score line must 120 or so. Possibly the parties have conveniently chosen the low runs figures indicated to show a more realistic projected score for the 2nd team.
Ok, here's a concrete example. Let me be honest and declare that I got this example from Jayadevan. Let me be even more honest and declare that this is a fabricated example. Imagine three ODI situations where Team 1 has respectively reached 56/0, 62/0 and 67/0 in 20 overs when it starts raining heavily. Team 1's innings is terminated and Team 2 must be set a target in 20 overs. VJD sets targets respectively of 116, 124 and 130 for Team 2, while the corresponding D/L targets are apparently 148, 147 and 148.
These D/L targets worry me on three counts. First, asking Team 2 to score 148 in 20 overs to win in response to Team 1's 56/0 in 20 overs appears unacceptably high. Second, why should Team 2's target go down by a run when Team 1 has scored 6 runs more? Third, why does Team 2's target remains unchanged at 148 even though Team 1 has scored 11 runs more. This appears to be a serious inconsistency.
Ok, here's a concrete example. Let me be honest and declare that I got this example from Jayadevan. Let me be even more honest and declare that this is a fabricated example. Imagine three ODI situations where Team 1 has respectively reached 56/0, 62/0 and 67/0 in 20 overs when it starts raining heavily. Team 1's innings is terminated and Team 2 must be set a target in 20 overs. VJD sets targets respectively of 116, 124 and 130 for Team 2, while the corresponding D/L targets are apparently 148, 147 and 148.
These D/L targets worry me on three counts. First, asking Team 2 to score 148 in 20 overs to win in response to Team 1's 56/0 in 20 overs appears unacceptably high. Second, why should Team 2's target go down by a run when Team 1 has scored 6 runs more? Third, why does Team 2's target remains unchanged at 148 even though Team 1 has scored 11 runs more. This appears to be a serious inconsistency.
