sachin , dravid & laxman are the most honest & patriotic player. Every overseas test win courtsey these players along with bowlers. Dravid will win this test. Last 3 series won due to brialliance of sachin/laxman batting. Dravid & laxman was insulted by same dhoni & cut short their desrving ODI career by playing regional politics. Stll when they play test under politicain dhoni, they give 100% & always help in winning india even though that credit is eaten by politician dhoni. Even dhoni remarked silly thing agaisnt sachin in aus triangular series. still he give his 100% under political captain & ensure india become no.1. Player like ganguly/dhoni start under performing the moment thier captaincy is removed. It is due to lack of ability & political nature
Re: Great Dravid
by kalpesh shah on Jun 23, 2011 11:12 AM
no one is perfect and dhoni is no exception...but one this is sure he is better captain than dravid,sachin,vvs,and on patriotic front all are paid handsomely and above all they are representative of bcci not india...ask rajiv shukla and sharad powar for further clarification...
Re: Great Dravid
by kalyan sundar on Jun 23, 2011 11:11 AM
mr. ashish kumar, i really appriciate yours concerns, but the thrimurthi's, and the legends some how could not able to win when they were captains. believe me they have huge respect for dhoni, and similarly dhoni has also got hugh respect for the 3 legends, it is very much true that, at leaset one has to score high for winning a match be it in overseas or in india, but the fact is dhoni name for skipper had been recommended by Tendulkar himself, what ever the records may suggest, dhoni has managed to keep all the players together and composed, and fact of the matter is he is winning tests, onedays, 20-20's, what more can you ask for.
Re: Re: Great Dravid
by shammi khandelwal on Jun 23, 2011 11:14 AM
dhoni yet to lose any test series.he has led in 9 series.he is winning because of good team he has.
i want to see his captaincy skills once these seniors retire
Re: Re: Re: Great Dravid
by suppandi on Jun 23, 2011 11:17 AM
Hello Shammi, Time for him to retire when seniors retire and save his face from defeats haha
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Great Dravid
by ASHISH KUMAR on Jun 23, 2011 11:42 AM
no great player needs any guiding. This guiding/leader ship ability works only in MP/MLA election. Thats why most of dhoni supporters are political minded persons. I have hardly seen any genuine sports lover a big fan of politician dhoni. Player like maradona, pele,sachin, brdaman, lara,mcgrath, warne, akram, etc no need guiding of any captain but they guie thier captain with their performance. But yes any captain need to desrve his place in team first as a player.
Re: Re: Great Dravid
by ASHISH KUMAR on Jun 23, 2011 11:38 AM
Kalyan ur data is not correct. 1) Laxman was never a captain 2)During sachin captaincy, india had weakest team 3)During dravid captaincy India did very well in test- India win series in WI after 30 yrs (that also when lara, gyle etc playing) India win test series in England after 20 yrs (flintoff & all playing). India win 1st ever test in SA. No captain has achieved so many test win overseas in such a short time. India win continous 18 ODI chasing -which still a world record. Excpet for debacle in 2007 Wcup (luck also din't favour due to format), india did pretty well under dravid captaincy. Please note that dravid made century also in WI & England series when india win it. Hence he was not a captain but performing player also. Now under dhoni if india is winning- dhoni contribution with bat in any overseas test win is nil. Also last two series against SA & SLK we couldn;t win the series under dhoni captaincy. It was draw only. In both series dhoni failed with bat also. So this dhoni is simply a flat track bulley & big manipulator who knows how to manage media, BCCI & add agency. his cricketing ability is no where near any worldclass player. So stop hyping of this captaincy.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Great Dravid
by ASHISH KUMAR on Jun 23, 2011 11:48 AM
we are talking about intnl cricket here. Why u are silenet on point3. Please note that India win ODI series in W.I raina was captain. Last yr gambhir was captain against NZL ODI & India won series 5-0. Gammbhir scored two century also in that series. Against SLK odi series dhobiji rested in 2 inning- sehwag was captain. India won both match comfortably & sehwag scored well also. It means India won 11 out of 13 ODI with any captain (dhoni was rested). What does it prove. Whe your team is good & better than opposition- u will win always irrespective of who tom, dick & harry is the captain
Re: Re: Re: Great Dravid
by ASHISH KUMAR on Jun 23, 2011 11:43 AM
Gambhir pres conference after win over DC in IPL-4 dated 04/05/11 The left-hander also said that he was enjoying his stint as KKR captain. "I always enjoyed my captaincy whether it is for India, whether it is for Delhi [ Images ] or this one. You end up taking responsibility, you end up learning a lot, you feel happy when you end up winning," Gambhir said. "I always believed that there were never great captains and there will be no great captain. There are only great teams. No captain can win you the game. It is the team that wins the game. So far, I am enjoying my captaincy."
Forget about run, once india win this test all media will show another win for dhoni ( as if dhoni won the match). Fact remains dhobiji is biggest failure as a batsman on overseas pitch as he is not capable to bat even against b grade bowling of WI. But at the end take all the credits just by doing politics. Sachin, dravid, laxman all are great & respect each other & one of them need to fire if india has to win any test overseas.
Trimurty of indian cricket- Sachin, dravid, laxman. In last 10 yrs any overseas test win happened only when one of these 3 scored century or played a big inning which influence the outcome of match. On indian pitch its bowler who win the match, while outside subcontinent on bowler friendly pitches, batsman win the test matches as batting is always difficlult there & u require real talent there to score. Thats why Trimurty are called legend while medicore like dhoni always refered an ordinary batsman. Dhobiji has not scored a single hundred overseas eben after playing 6 yrs of intl cricket & so many series. Even player like kumble/agarkar batting at no.9 could hit century in England. Bhajji/mishra also looks better batsman than useless dhoni. Another dravid century ( Its very difficult to score century in 2nd inning of test on bouncy pitch) will result in india test win & as usual politicain dhobihi will come to take credit for that win. Thats what he doing for last few yrs- no batting but take credit of players like sachin, dravid, laxman, kumble, sehwag, zaheer etc by talking big in pressconference
should not repeat the mistake of choosing Murli Vijay again for opening in tests. He does not have technique to be an opener. We could try Dravid or Kohli temporarily for his slot and include in form Rohit Sharma in the middle order. It is also better Dhoni & Laxman inter change their batting positions as both were seen uncomfortable with their latest positions.
Re: Indian team Management
by ASHISH KUMAR on Jun 23, 2011 10:40 AM
based on comfort level, dhoni should bat at no. 10 after bhajji & mishra. Laxman will definetely bounce back in next test as usual- he is doing it for so many series in past.
Dravid should be Ambuja cement wall. The way he played... so slow... so steady.. reminding of Gavaskar who played 4 hours to get 1 run and get century in one of his test matches... Keep it up Dravid.
heading should shown dravid hit 100... if kichin made 100 (even in a losing match) all the bloody media will be publish in first page..corrupted media..may be got some bucks from kichin...
Re: bloody media
by Rahul on Jun 23, 2011 10:15 AM
Cant agree more. idiotic media, never ever dravid will get his share of credit, even if he scores 200.
Re: bloody media
by ASHISH KUMAR on Jun 23, 2011 10:43 AM
Forget about run, once india win this test all media will show another win for dhoni ( as if dhoni won the match). Fact remains dhobiji is biggest failure as a batsman on overseas pitch as he is not capable to bat even against b grade bowling of WI. But at the end take all the credits just by doing politics. Sachin, dravid, laxman all are great & respect each other & one of them need to fire if india has to win any test overseas.
