Just saw Chandrapaul being given out LBW. Forget Ian Gould being vision handicapped. But what about Dhoni and Bhajji? How could they even appeal? I feel very ashamed as a supporter of Indian team to have a captain who is so unethical and the premier bowler who is equally with him. If this is cricket , then to hell with it.
Re: Feel Very Very Ashamed
by Sarangarajan TS on Jul 03, 2011 10:11 AM
The appeal was legitimate as seen live and even the commentator Dujon commented that Chadrapaul missed the straight one.Only after replays through Hawkeye shown the ball leaving the off stump and the angle of delivery shown also was dubious and misleading.Hawk eye prediction is not accurate and could be manipulated.The umpire thought it out and there ends the point.
Re: Re: Feel Very Very Ashamed
by ASHISH KUMAR on Jul 03, 2011 03:03 PM
dhoni is always a chaet & politician. Otherwise how can he survive in oversaes test side even after failing for 6th consecutive series as a batsman. Any other batsman including wktkeeper batsman getting fropped after every one series failure
Re: Feel Very Very Ashamed
by ad na on Jul 03, 2011 07:05 AM
It's called winning at all costs. When Aussie's did it, world called them unbeatable champs. What's wrong if we Indians do it. Win at all costs nobody remembers an ethical team who finished second.
Re: Re: Feel Very Very Ashamed
by Ramelton Corwe on Jul 03, 2011 07:19 AM
I really pity those 'nobody' referred to by you. Australians doing it does not make it right. Their back sides should be properly kicked for good.
By the way, if you remember the India Englad Golden Jubilee test in Mumbai, though England won, it is remembered for Vishwanath calling back an English batsman after being given out by the umpire.
The answer is not to follow bad boys Aussies but use the Indian Muscle to nut out such third class behaviour from cricket.
I do not live in a jungle and hence winning at 'any cost' is just not acceptable.
Re: Re: Re: Feel Very Very Ashamed
by ad na on Jul 03, 2011 08:35 AM
BTW i was not even born when the India-Eng golden jubilee happened. From my experiences so far, the world only remembers the winner. In fact history is written by the winners and the losers are usually abolished to the jungles.That's the new capitalist world order we live in. Also Aussie's are not considered "Nobody" Aussies excels in a lot of sports and it's only because of their win at all costs attitude.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Feel Very Very Ashamed
by sharath tharanath on Jul 03, 2011 09:40 AM
Whatever happened to Kiplings "Meeting with triumph and disaster and treating those two impostors just the same".Consigned to the dustbins of history ,in your new capitalistic order I presume.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Feel Very Very Ashamed
by ad na on Jul 03, 2011 06:59 PM
Really triumph and disaster are the same to you? what happened to survival of the fittest by darwin, consigned to the dustbins of common sense in your humane world order i presume.
Re: Feel Very Very Ashamed
by Jay on Jul 03, 2011 11:50 AM
Did you see how they showed wrong delivery to Third umpire for replay of Dhoni's dismissal & Harbhajan's dismissal in 1st Test? People will not notice those!
Re: Re: Feel Very Very Ashamed
by ASHISH KUMAR on Jul 03, 2011 03:05 PM
jay- if u were crying then- why u are silent in chandrapaul/samual dismissal- both were wrong? This is doubel standrad
Just saw Chandrapaul being given out LBW. Forget Ian Gould being vision handicapped. But what about Dhoni and Bhajji? How could they even appeal? I feel very ashamed as a supporter of Indian team to have a captain who is so unethical and the premier bowler who is equally with him. If this is cricket , then to hell with it.
I suspect I am not going to make many friends with my observation here. But that is not why I am making this comment any way. For long, a complete non-performer (but a genuine YES MAN to the selectors) has been branded a good-to-a-great captain and has cemented his place in the team on this credential. The above article refers to his 'wretched form in this tour' but when exactly did he have any sensible run with his form in test matches outside the subcontinental drab wickets? He is simply a low politician who has the uncanny knack of tapping the right buttons wherever the power might be. Technically he is possibly the worst batsman that I have seen in the last three decades (resembling a chirpy toad at his 'belligerent best') and so far as captaincy is concerned he was lucky enough to have got a ready made team from his predecessors. I do not know of a single player of quality that has emerged in his times but he is definitely culpable of damaging many prospects (Yuvraj Singh & Harbhajan Singh are the primes names that come to mind). The public do not bother because test cricket gets so little media coverage these days that most of the non-performances are not highlighted at all. So far as 20-20 cricket is concerned (his performance in standard one-day internationals also follow the test patterns, more or less), most of them are played in Indian soils where he turns out the neo-Viv. Why do we have to bear this nuisance for ever?
Re: Re: Dhoni: his captaincy & his batting form!
by ASHISH KUMAR on Jul 03, 2011 10:47 AM
You are 100% right mr Amit. Most of true sports fan have same feeling. Olny political fan like PR has diff of opinion. In ODI series raina was captain- still we won. In NZL series Gambhir was captain still India won ODI series 5-0. Against SLK sehwag captain for 2 matches- india won both. Fact is if ur team is better than opposition- u will win irrespective of captain. We are winning under him- just a created myth. This series also if you drop Dravid/laxman- India could have lost thies series 3-0 as politicain dhoni & his chamcha friends are not capable of winning test series outside without these seniors. In fact what ever test india won overesas (it doesn't matter who was the cpatin)- it was gifted by sachin, dravid, laxman , sehwag batting & kumble, zaheer etc bowling. This politicain is a simply a lucky guy
Re: Re: Re: Dhoni: his captaincy & his batting form!
by Sameer on Jul 03, 2011 11:51 AM
Ashish Kumar
this is a known fact. the captain is only as good as his team.
If the team loses, captain is bad, if the team wins the captain is good.
Eitherways, i am not a fan of dhoni, but i believe he is the right man for the job.
Simply because he doesn't have pressure when he fails. He is in the team as a wicketkeeper batsman. So as long as his wicketkeeping skills don't go bad, he will have the position.
If you give the same to a batsman or bowler, his performance might dip. Giving to a wicketkeeper is the best thing to do :)
Re: Dhoni: his captaincy & his batting form!
by Bhai Bahan on Jul 03, 2011 08:09 AM
Selectors have to protect his advertisement revenue and compmanies interests
Re: Dhoni: his captaincy & his batting form!
by AdinGoyyale on Jul 03, 2011 10:49 AM
Agreed Dhoni is in pathetic form. Except for his innings in the world cup final, his performance as a batsman is dismal for the last one year. But as a captain he has excelled and he is another Mike Brearly. As long as the team wins, it s OK with Dhoni
