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hussain bakhtiyar
Great Kallis
by hussain bakhtiyar on Jan 04, 2011 05:47 PM

Jacques kallis is the best cricketer of the world. 265 test wickets 100 catches and around 12,000/- runs.

no more disucssion the best player has to be jacques Kallis.

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Amar Singh
There's Only One Great Cricketer
by Amar Singh on Jan 04, 2011 12:48 PM

Sachin Tendulkar, rest are just players.
All the pro and con arguments prove that.

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sanjay
who's who of test cricket II
by sanjay on Jan 04, 2011 12:10 PM  | Hide replies

Who are the batsmen ?

1) for whom all opposition stratezize ?
2) for whom opposition keeps their best bowlers ?
3) After whose wicket opposition team celebrate ?
4) whose wicket is new terst bowlers dream ?
5) who are those for whom stock bowlers are used by opposition ?
6) Who are out and then crisis starts ?
7) Who are good at all sort of wickets ?
8) are given to settle down in 20 overs on seaming bouncy wickets.
9) are likely to play when ball is old.
10) are likely to play new ball in first 20 overs on live wickets

Just think and then rate batsman in tests.


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Against Pseudos
Re: who's who of test cricket II
by Against Pseudos on Jan 04, 2011 12:14 PM
Sanjay:

To quote the biggest living expert on cricket by the name of Va RUN; who knows more than Brian Lara, Matt Hayden, Warne, Murali, McGrath, Ponting, Kapil, Gavaskar, Viv Richards, Boycott, Gilchrist, etc. etc. combined:

The answer to 1) through 10) is "Muralidharan"... ;-)

Coz he only believes what he sees on the ground... and surely all the signs of mental trauma he has displayed on the forum he must be seeing Murali hitting every bowler known to mankind right to the corner of the grounds world over... ;-)

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Sameer
Re: Re: who's who of test cricket II
by Sameer on Jan 04, 2011 12:19 PM
LOL

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Varun
Re: Re: who's who of test cricket II
by Varun on Jan 04, 2011 12:36 PM
ohoho. Hurt ego of Psue Dumbo. If that gives you an ego boost, i dont mind bud. Get your confidence back. Keep working at it. if you were such a babay, why did you even pretend otherwise ?.

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Re: who's who of test cricket II
by Against Pseudos on Jan 04, 2011 12:38 PM
Va RUN:

;-)... If you really agree that the answer I gave on your behalf is Wrong, then there is certainly hope for your hyper active brain which otherwise keeps inventing things like the above... ;-)

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Re: who's who of test cricket II
by Varun on Jan 04, 2011 12:41 PM
Psue Dumbo, If i was inventing, you didnt have to respond. I sure was right. It is ok, its ok. Keep at it. :))

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: who's who of test cricket II
by Against Pseudos on Jan 04, 2011 12:43 PM
Va RUN:

;-)... According to you either Lara and Hayden "invented" the fact that Sachin is a great batsman, or else YOU invented the fact that Sachin is a useless player...

So kindly tell us who it was who actually invented facts? ;-)

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: who's who of test cricket II
by Against Pseudos on Jan 04, 2011 12:50 PM
Va RUN:

Thanx for admitting that Sachin is a great batsman... :)

Took you a while, but you did agree eventually, which is the main thing... :)

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: who's who of test cricket II
by Varun on Jan 04, 2011 12:54 PM
Psue Dumbo, so finally his ego is satisfied. Yeah like i have said so many times in the past, sachin is a very good batsman, but not the best. If that is all you wanted to hear, you could have said so :))

He is probably the most skilled batsman i have seen and for a highly skilled one, the worst under pressure as well. That is my opinion. Might not be as good for you as the experts. But hey let me make my judgements.. :))

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: who's who of test cricket II
by Against Pseudos on Jan 04, 2011 01:01 PM
Va RUN:

Kindly go back two hours in time:

Re: GO EAST OR WEST SACHIN IS THE BEST
by Varun (View MyPage) on Jan 04, 2011 10:31 AM
yes sachin is the waste.

Now that you've gone over that Sickness, its indeed good for humanity... :)

BTW, who plays well under what pressure is YOUR opinion (as rightly pointed out by you), and most people will appreciate if you kept it to yourself rather than attempting a Hayden or Lara on us... :)

Of course if you reach their level of expertise, you are most welcome to tell us about your opinions... :)

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: who's who of test cricket II
by Varun on Jan 04, 2011 12:47 PM
Psue Dumbo, slow down. Your mind is still playing tricks with you. I did not claim any of the following. But even before you realized what i was saying your hero worship mode got the better of you and you started going off in all directions. Experts are human and they have opinions like you and me and idols they aspire to follow. Sachin is not useless for me, just not a saint or god or the best. But hey you got so defensive as it i was committing blas phemy. Cool down and read through it again.

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: who's who of test cricket II
by Varun on Jan 04, 2011 01:11 PM
Pseudo dumbo, that was a comment meant for the spam people not YOU. OMG Did you take it personal from there on ?. Dude stop worshiping so much and cool down. Also do get some help to work on that EGO. Let that be your new years resolution. :))

Don't take what you don't want. And you can continue being dumb with your BS as usual and parrot experts. And you dont have to be dumb always. :))

And stop pretending. Your facade comes down and then the real pseudo shows up. Anyways you are are a piece of work. Me, Brian and Hayden... That was a classic. I am going to remember that one... :))

Lunch time kiddo. Have fun.

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Varun
Re: Re: who's who of test cricket II
by Varun on Jan 04, 2011 12:37 PM
And BTW thanks for the entertainment. It was fun to bring down your facade. Now go back to calling me names and GET THAT EGO satisfied.

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Re: who's who of test cricket II
by Against Pseudos on Jan 04, 2011 12:39 PM
Va RUN:

It was YOU who has called me names throughout; but given your state of mind (or lack thereof) I don't mind even THAT accusation coming from you... ;-)

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Re: who's who of test cricket II
by Varun on Jan 04, 2011 12:42 PM
hehe. No buddy you just did to satisfy your ego. When all runs dry, lets satisfy the hurt ego. Its only normal.

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: who's who of test cricket II
by Varun on Jan 04, 2011 12:58 PM
Psue Dumbo, glad that you agree. Wouldn't want to log off rediff with a weakened self confidence :))

After all, you are a fellow Indian. I agree with you on a lot of things. But you just get so much into idol worship and miss the subtle points :))

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: who's who of test cricket II
by Against Pseudos on Jan 04, 2011 12:52 PM
Va RUN:

I agree 100%.... :)

Just becoz someone like YOU calls me Dumbo doesn't make me one... is what I was saying...

Thanx for agreeing with me... :)

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: who's who of test cricket II
by Varun on Jan 04, 2011 12:49 PM
Pseu Dumbo, calling you, brain and Hayden. oh boy. Get down to earth and work on that ego.

Oh so that is the reason. You were hurt by the name Psue Dumbo. I see. NO problem if that makes your ego happy. Listne you dont have to think you are dumb because others say so. You know.. :))

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: who's who of test cricket II
by Against Pseudos on Jan 04, 2011 01:03 PM
Va RUN:

Talking of missing subtle points, all that anti-Sachin hatred makes you miss the Plain; obvious; Typed in front of you points too... :)

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: who's who of test cricket II
by Against Pseudos on Jan 04, 2011 12:45 PM
Va RUN:

Fair enough... as I said, given your state of mind (or lack thereof), I don't really mind you calling me and Lara and Hayden names that come to your inventive mind... :)

P.S.: Psue Dumbo may be in your dictionary a nice name; in which case may I return that complement and call YOU Psue Dumbo? ;-)

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Vortex
Leave Sachin yaar....
by Vortex on Jan 04, 2011 10:32 AM  | Hide replies

Indian cricket and cricket followers are concentrated on tendulkar....whatever happens we start comparing with tendulkar....Laxman plays and wins...we compare it with sachin....We must confess that we all consider sachin as benchmark of batting..isn't it???

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Varun
Re: Leave Sachin yaar....
by Varun on Jan 04, 2011 10:48 AM
Fan boys are writing serious abuses at me. ohoho agitated are we ?.

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Leave Sachin yaar....
by Against Pseudos on Jan 04, 2011 11:08 AM
Va RUN:

;-).... well said... given that only YOU are allowed to abuse others on the forum, that's too bad what others are doing.... right? :)

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Leave Sachin yaar....
by Varun on Jan 04, 2011 11:15 AM
Psue Dumbo, i am so sorry. Did you get hurt by me saying the truth about Sachin. Ohh so sad. Dont worry YOU will get over it. lol.

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Sameer
Re: Re: Re: Re: Leave Sachin yaar....
by Sameer on Jan 04, 2011 11:47 AM
Va Run

funny how you claim to follow "EXPERTS" and be so biased against tendy.

The Irony is blinding.




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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Leave Sachin yaar....
by Varun on Jan 04, 2011 12:32 PM
Sameer buddy, sorry missed your comment in the rush. I did not claim experts are biased. Read it again. I claimed they are human. I was trying to help Psue Dumbo.

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Leave Sachin yaar....
by Against Pseudos on Jan 04, 2011 12:06 PM
Va RUN:

Your incessant anti-Sachin chanting IS certainly getting on you.... now you don't even know who you are replying to... :)

Since you concede that experts are also human and as ignorant as YOU are, wonder why you call them as experts? :)

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Leave Sachin yaar....
by Against Pseudos on Jan 04, 2011 12:41 PM
As for Lara and Hayden NOT knowing what YOU know, I completely agree.... ;-)

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Leave Sachin yaar....
by Varun on Jan 04, 2011 12:12 PM
Psue Dumbo, I knew. You just didnt get it. roflmao. It is YOU dumbo.

Concede ?. Is that how we gain ground in a discussion. You are so funny. YOU can pretend that you are not ignorant all you want. But back it up with some sense. Now that is missing.

Dont worry. If you did not know why they are called experts, why did you even bring it up ?. Just another argument to convince your mind ?.

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Leave Sachin yaar....
by Against Pseudos on Jan 04, 2011 12:40 PM
Va RUN:

;-).... Given that only humans play the game, it was indeed a revelation coming from you that experts are human... :)

Even YOU are human I presume? ;-)

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Leave Sachin yaar....
by Varun on Jan 04, 2011 12:02 PM
Psue Dumbo, it is not all black and white in the world. Get some help for your eyes.

Who is biased ? Your mind is playing tricks with you. The incessant chanting is getting to you bud. I said and i repeat for slow learners like you, experts are also human and they are also fans. Try understanding it this time. You are a piece of work. :))

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Leave Sachin yaar....
by Varun on Jan 04, 2011 12:30 PM
Psue Dumbo, you sure did get the message didnt you ?. lol.

Dont worry keep following other people. And keep chanting and of course continue the great journey of knowledge that you are on. You are a piece of work. Good to know you know so much about Lara and Hayden. They might not even know what you know. :)). Get over bind worship pseudo. And next time, dont put the facade of reason to your worship. :))

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Leave Sachin yaar....
by Against Pseudos on Jan 04, 2011 12:26 PM
Va RUN:

In case you noticed, you replied to Sameer.... ;-)

Don't worry... you will get well soon... :)

BTW, I definitely know about Hayden and Lara... you can look them up on Cricinfo in your spare time... :)

Maybe that will get you started on your journey to learn cricket (IF you are convinced in your mind, that is)... :)

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Re: Re: Leave Sachin yaar....
by Against Pseudos on Jan 04, 2011 11:22 AM
Va RUN:

No. Hardly anyone cares when YOU abuse anyone on the forum... :)

But YOU sure get hurt and upset when others do that to you... ;-)

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Leave Sachin yaar....
by Against Pseudos on Jan 04, 2011 11:43 AM
Va RUN:

;-)... you are free to follow what YOU think is cricket...

Let others follow what the Experts think is cricket...
:)

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Leave Sachin yaar....
by Varun on Jan 04, 2011 11:28 AM
Psue Dumbo is going berserk now. Listen there are going to be days when your idol might not get worshiped like you want. You got to get over it dumbo. Seriously... :))

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Leave Sachin yaar....
by Varun on Jan 04, 2011 11:36 AM
Psue Dumbo, you are strong in that case. You can get over it i guess. I cant hence i did not go into sachin worshipping. simple solution. :)

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Leave Sachin yaar....
by Varun on Jan 04, 2011 11:54 AM
Psue Dumbo, Nice you can follow whoever you wish. Just don't assume like a kid that the expert is always correct. They are also human and fans of other people. But keep worshiping and chanting. But get over Matt Hayden :))

YOU are so kind and letting me be. :))

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Leave Sachin yaar....
by Against Pseudos on Jan 04, 2011 11:29 AM
Va RUN:

;-)... Sure... I will get over it...

Question is... Can YOU? ;-)

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Leave Sachin yaar....
by Against Pseudos on Jan 04, 2011 12:07 PM
Va RUN:

;-)... so you mean to say that the Experts are dumber than Even YOU? ;-)

Wow.... that was a nice complement to Lara and Hayden, who surely would love to learn a little tips about cricket from you... :)

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Leave Sachin yaar....
by Varun on Jan 04, 2011 11:42 AM
Psue Dumbo, poor you. Buddy not everyone in the world is sick as YOU. So don't expect the same things you have to do in others :))

You have a good time following Brian Lara and Matt Hayden. I follow what i see on the field. Slight difference. Which is why you chant and worship all you want. Actually that would be very good. Might help you get over Matt Hayden that is. :))

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Leave Sachin yaar....
by Varun on Jan 04, 2011 12:27 PM
Psue Dumbo,

-)... so you mean to say that the Experts are dumber than Even YOU? ;-)

Is that the last straw. The hurt ego twisting and trying combinations to get an upper hand ?. ROFLMAO. I repeat, you sure are a piece of work. When the facade came down, the real one started coming out. Is this your best ?. Do you even know what you are talking about anymore. :))

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Leave Sachin yaar....
by Against Pseudos on Jan 04, 2011 11:37 AM
Va RUN:

But you are still not over YOUR particular brand of sickness.... ;-)
And admitting it openly that you CAN'T admit what Hayden and Lara (who know slightly more cricket than you, unless you challenge that of course) have realised... :)

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Varun
Re: Leave Sachin yaar....
by Varun on Jan 04, 2011 10:42 AM
Nice. Fanboys find new ways to feel good.

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Avinash londhe
GO EAST OR WEST SACHIN IS THE BEST
by Avinash londhe on Jan 04, 2011 10:14 AM  | Hide replies

ONE THING WE MUST UNDERSTAND GUYS IS THAT SACHIN IS COMPLETE CRICKETER. WHAT ABOUT ODI'S WHERE IS LAXMAN? CURRENTLY NO DOUBT THAT LAXMAN IS SUPERIOR TO TEND. IN TEST MATCHES.BUT SACHIN IS STILL "THE BEST".

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Varun
Re: GO EAST OR WEST SACHIN IS THE BEST
by Varun on Jan 04, 2011 10:31 AM
yes sachin is the waste.

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: GO EAST OR WEST SACHIN IS THE BEST
by Against Pseudos on Jan 04, 2011 10:33 AM
Va RUN:

Well said.... Being a complete cricketer in a land where "cricket fans" like YOU exist surely is a waste from Sachin's point of view.. :)

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: GO EAST OR WEST SACHIN IS THE BEST
by Varun on Jan 04, 2011 10:44 AM
lol poor Psue dumbo got agitated. Take it easy. Sachin is your God. we all know.

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Re: Re: GO EAST OR WEST SACHIN IS THE BEST
by Against Pseudos on Jan 04, 2011 11:09 AM
Va RUN:

And not being complete cricketer is the biggest favour a cricketer can do to you.... eh? :)

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GO EAST OR WEST SACHIN IS THE BEST
by Varun on Jan 04, 2011 11:32 AM
Psue Dumbo, Oh now you are scared. Taking cover behind Brian Lara. Well maybe you parrot everything Brian Lara and Matt Hayden says. Thats your way of life. Good luck. I follow my own logic and Sachins issues are there for all to see. Matt Hayden must be dictating other things in your life as well. Him being an Aussie and all. Greater than Thou. Some people havent quite stopped being slaves have they ? Interesting times. :))

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GO EAST OR WEST SACHIN IS THE BEST
by Varun on Jan 04, 2011 11:18 AM
Psue Dumbo, is that why you chose Sachin to be your God ? My complete idol... lol. Keep the worship and chants going. Take it easy dumbo man.

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GO EAST OR WEST SACHIN IS THE BEST
by Varun on Jan 04, 2011 11:48 AM
Psue Dumbo, there is a thing called Brain that you must be having somewhere. It is to be used somehow. Work on it.

It is not what people talk about, it is what you see on the field. Having skills is not enough ( which is what they are talking about in case you never got it. Stop being in such awe when they speak and probably you will get it ). One needs strong nerves to get over tough situations. Champion is not just skills, but also has the grits. Dont worry maybe a little too much for you right now. :))

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GO EAST OR WEST SACHIN IS THE BEST
by Against Pseudos on Jan 04, 2011 11:34 AM
Va RUN:

;-)... Taking cover? ;-)

Sure you seem to know more cricket than Lara and Hayden rolled into one, but just try taking that proposition to Wisden... ;-)

If they agre, THEN maybe we can discuss? :)

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GO EAST OR WEST SACHIN IS THE BEST
by Against Pseudos on Jan 04, 2011 11:23 AM
Va RUN:

;-)... I sure am in excellent company with Brian Lara and Matt Hayden in making that comment...

Which elite company do YOU represent, may I ask? ;-)

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GO EAST OR WEST SACHIN IS THE BEST
by Against Pseudos on Jan 04, 2011 12:09 PM
Va RUN:

If I am using my Brain exactly as the so-called Experts are using (in your opinion) I am pretty happy with it thank you very much...
If you want to become hyper and invent stuff on your own, please carry on... :)

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Linson Thomas
Re: Re: GO EAST OR WEST SACHIN IS THE BEST
by Linson Thomas on Jan 04, 2011 11:22 AM
yes ur waste..... completely..

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: GO EAST OR WEST SACHIN IS THE BEST
by Varun on Jan 04, 2011 11:33 AM
yeah he is my waste. Tks. :))

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Re: Re: GO EAST OR WEST SACHIN IS THE BEST
by Against Pseudos on Jan 04, 2011 11:36 AM
Va RUN:

;-)... so YOU are responsible for this player who is grieving you so? :)

I suspected you were a masochist, but now with your admission you have proved it... ;-)

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somashekarkulkarni
Akash Chopra
by somashekarkulkarni on Jan 04, 2011 09:59 AM  | Hide replies

Why the selectors have not giving the chance for Akash Chopra though he is playing in ranaji match superbly.

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Lawerence Demello
Re: Akash Chopra
by Lawerence Demello on Jan 04, 2011 10:18 AM
because the Ranji match is still on. Once it is over, he will be called. You dont worry

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somashekarkulkarni
Match should be decided
by somashekarkulkarni on Jan 04, 2011 09:55 AM  | Hide replies

India should play the match keeping in mind that match should become result & not draw, for that they should rise their run rate at least 4 to 4.5 per over. Then only the match will come for the result otherwise match will become draw, though both teams have world class bowling & batting.

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Against Pseudos
Re: Match should be decided
by Against Pseudos on Jan 04, 2011 10:33 AM
Kulkarnya:

Given that South Africans did NOT score at 4 or 4.5; the match is already a draw in your books... ain't it? :)

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ANIL SINGH
Re: Re: Match should be decided
by ANIL SINGH on Jan 04, 2011 12:22 PM
this is test cricket. if india scores 400 more runs in 120 overs thats is by lunch tomr. they will have lead of 180 and can force the win. days 3 will be good for batting and day 4 and 5 are worst. that should be the way. run rate of 3 is good for india instead of slogging and getting out conceding lead to SA. You need some basic lessons on test cricket

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