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Minnows have no place at the World Cup: Ponting


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Rupesh Majethiya
minnows
by Rupesh Majethiya on Feb 22, 2011 12:04 PM

ICC is doing everything for the minnows to remain minnows at the international level.

here are some things that can be done to make them compete better against the big teams.

1. ICC should make it a point that throughout the year 1 or 2 minnow countries play with the other big guns in a bilateral or triangular tournament.
2. ICC should appoint former big players to be coach of the nations for a big tenure like four years.

otherwise what can you expect a team like Kenya or Canada to learn anything from the big losses they are going to suffer from the big teams.

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prem k
Correct
by prem k on Feb 21, 2011 04:46 PM

Even though I dont like Ponting, but what he says is correct. I think that these minnows are simply brought in to boost the morale of the few top teams and of course to maximize the ad revenues.

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Prashant Srivastava
What about the Oz defeat from Zimbabwe in 2010 T20 World Cup
by Prashant Srivastava on Feb 21, 2011 04:21 PM  | Hide replies

Ponting seems to have short term memory loss as the minnow he has mentioned defeated these world champ in ICC event itself.

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Against Pseudos
Re: What about the Oz defeat from Zimbabwe in 2010 T20 World Cup
by Against Pseudos on Feb 21, 2011 09:45 PM
Prashant Shrivastava:

;-) that was in 1983. Not short term. YOU seem to suffer from that type if loss. Considering that you forgot the recent 32 over mis-match of Kenya. ;-)

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rajib sen
Re: Re: What about the Oz defeat from Zimbabwe in 2010 T20 World
by rajib sen on Feb 22, 2011 02:09 PM
@ Against Pseudos..i guess you also seem to suffer short time memory loss..Pl dont go far way u will see Zimbabwe beat Australia 3 yrs back in an ICC event...i.e. 12 Sep 2007 1st Twenty 20 WC which was held at SA...Zimbabwe beat Australia by 5 wickets..
So now i guess u get it...
This is for your information @ Against Pseudos..

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Re: What about the Oz defeat from Zimbabwe in 2010 T20 Wo
by Against Pseudos on Mar 07, 2011 11:31 AM
Sen:

And one more thing.... There is a "slight" difference between IPL, T20, Champions Trophy and the World Cup... :)

But of course, for people with Long Term Memory loss it does not matter... eh? :)

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Re: What about the Oz defeat from Zimbabwe in 2010 T20 Wo
by Against Pseudos on Mar 07, 2011 11:29 AM
Rajib Sen:

I was replying to Prashant Srivastava....

As for Zimbabwe's "spectacular" team, you have no doubt bet that they'll win the World Cup? Eh? :)

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Prashant Srivastava
What about the Oz defeat from Zimbabwe in 2010 T20 World Cup
by Prashant Srivastava on Feb 21, 2011 04:21 PM

Ponting seems to have short term memory loss as the minnow he has mentioned defeated these world champ in ICC event itself.

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Prasad Damodaran
How to make this game popular
by Prasad Damodaran on Feb 21, 2011 03:50 PM  | Hide replies

The world cup began in the year 1975 with how many countries? 36 years has passed but still the game is not popular in the world. To make it popular ICC has to host in either England, Australia, West Indies and the subcontinent. No other nation wants to host it but in case of football every nation is with the sword that they want to host it at this time in their place.

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sidharath sankar buruda
Re: How to make this game popular
by sidharath sankar buruda on Feb 21, 2011 05:02 PM
Due to this kind of mentality we were ruled by the british for years, what we are best at we must promote it and make the world follow it, then only our country will be a super power. But comments from you people seems you are not from this country you are other side of the border. football has voilence lot of voilence, in cricket there is no voilence by the spectators (what i mean is group war among spectators nothing else).

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S Shrikanth
Re: How to make this game popular
by S Shrikanth on Feb 21, 2011 04:17 PM
India is the only country where Cricket gets sponsors and crowd both.

In Other countries Cricket is as good dead. In New Zealand, South Africa, West Indies you will see s few hundred or at the most a few thousand watching matches.

So, cricket has become a game of India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh.

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rg v
Aussies 50 in 15th over
by rg v on Feb 21, 2011 03:46 PM  | Hide replies

Now at Ahmedabad, Aussies are sweating against a minnow team.

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Against Pseudos
Re: Aussies 50 in 15th over
by Against Pseudos on Feb 22, 2011 03:48 AM
Rg V:

There are ways to winning the match by a greater margin; than to slog mindlessly and give it all away with wayward bowling... ;-)

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rohit mukkawar
Absolutely right...
by rohit mukkawar on Feb 21, 2011 02:38 PM  | Hide replies

Tournament like World Cup can not be used for minnows to get practice etc... Such tournaments should be meant only for the best teams which will also ensure quality cricket...

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Anil Aeron
Re: Absolutely right...
by Anil Aeron on Feb 21, 2011 03:00 PM
I am pretty sure that any cricket lover would think otherwise.World cup is the most prestigious tournament and allowing smaller teams to this tournament is simply undermining the reputation of this event.

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Prasad Damodaran
Re: Re: Absolutely right...
by Prasad Damodaran on Feb 21, 2011 03:52 PM
Dont allow the minnows and pls stop calling this world cup as world cup is played by nations around the world and not a few countries who you can count with your fingers.

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S Shrikanth
Re: Re: Absolutely right...
by S Shrikanth on Feb 21, 2011 04:19 PM
But there is no option for the Organizers. If they do not keep minnows then how they will be able to hold 49 matches and the tournament going to 1.5 months. Because Indian public has become addicted to cricket doze everyday.

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war lock
Re: Re: Re: Absolutely right...
by war lock on Feb 21, 2011 05:07 PM
world cup..........now that's a joke....with only a few countries participating and 50% are for practise only....this should probably be called cricket 8's as they have Rugby 7's.....crciket is not a world game with only 10-15 countries actually playing it......

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Gajanan
let one minnow beat aussie
by Gajanan on Feb 21, 2011 02:18 PM  | Hide replies

pointing would have to take his words back if one of the so called minnows beat his team. looking at his team's form it is very likely to happen and it should happen.

all said.. it is the sponsors tournament now-a-days. majority of the decisions are tilted towards how much money icc can make

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Against Pseudos
Re: let one minnow beat aussie
by Against Pseudos on Feb 21, 2011 09:50 PM
Gajanan:

YOU are welcome to watch 32 over mis-matches. But for gods sake spare us your "wisdom". ;-)

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Reza Arif
A Better Format
by Reza Arif on Feb 21, 2011 02:06 PM  | Hide replies

I agree that the no. of minnows need to be reduced ..

Another option would have been to restrict the no. of teams to 12 and have 3 groups of 4 teams each .. A round robin league within the groups will ensure that the top two teams from each group move on (along with points) to the next round of Super Six. In the SuperSix each team plays the other once and hence with 8 matches played and all the points taken into account, the semi-finalists are chosen.

The SemiFinal should be at least a two match affair with one team batting first and in the next game bowling first. If both the matches are won by the same team, they go through easily. If both the teams win one match each, then, we could analyse pre-set conditions like NetRun Rate, No. of wickets etc.

The Finals should be definitely a 3 match affair ... with the 3rd match played only if required.

This format will ensure that there are more competitive matches in the SuperSix stage, the points from the entire league phase ensure that the best 4 teams who have played consistently go through to the Semi's and the most deserving team has more chances of winning the coveted trophy ...

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S Shrikanth
Re: A Better Format
by S Shrikanth on Feb 21, 2011 04:21 PM
The format has been specially made to Suit India which had first round exist last year and BCCI and sponsors lost a huge sum of money.

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Reza Arif
Re: A Better Format
by Reza Arif on Feb 21, 2011 02:09 PM
In the above format .. the minnows might go out .. after their first 3 matches.. instead of playing 6 matches now ...

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Don
Re: A Better Format
by Don on Feb 21, 2011 02:12 PM
Reza Arif is Wrong.
Only 1992 Format- All-Play-ALL was good.
All othe format had/have limitations.

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nt g
Re: Re: A Better Format
by nt g on Feb 21, 2011 02:18 PM
1987 Format of 2 Groups -4 Teams each was also good.
Four Teams play twice against each other and 2 top reach semis.

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chunjaru
I got a New Format!!!! Will the ICC accept it.
by chunjaru on Feb 21, 2011 01:46 PM  | Hide replies

6 Minnows play just ahead of the worldcup. A round robin league and only 2 toppers are selected. Then the 8 test playing nations and the 2 minnows play in a round robin league and the top 4 play in the semis. Can finish of the WC in less than 30 days and the minnow league will be a teaser before the WC.

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Chaturchuramoni Chatterjee
Re: I got a New Format!!!! Will the ICC accept it.
by Chaturchuramoni Chatterjee on Feb 21, 2011 02:01 PM
And two teams who finish in the bottom of the round robin league will be relegated to play the "minnow league" in order to qualify for the next world cup.

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