cant understand how people are giving us teh favourites tag when half teh team is unfit..sachin,gambhu,munaf,zak,nehra and sree who is vulnerable in the middle of tournaments..i am afraid, our fast bowlers would begin well and may fall by the way side during the subsequent matches..hence, its better to take two spinners and here is my team...
viru sachin virat gambhir yuvi dhoni yusuf bhajji zaheer sree ashwin/piyush
Re: half fit indian team
by cricket on Feb 14, 2011 12:12 AM
MY 11 viru sachin virat gambhir yuvi/ashwin dhoni yusuf/ashwin bhajji zaheer sree piyush/nehra< BR>
very good show overall. but the lack of runs and inability to tackle genuine pace bowling affected our front-line batsmen. we won by 38 runs, but what if shewag wasn't given the 4 lives by way of missed run-out chances. And the fielding / running between wickets sometimes looked in shambles.
i wish dhoni is working towards plugging in these gaps. Undoubtedly spinners are our biggest strength.
Re: varun-Re: it hurts to see wrong people in-charge, but we cann
by Varun on Feb 13, 2011 11:37 PM
lol. such pretense. you are a funny kid. rowl now. We will have our gas masks on. lol.
in the first innings , as indian batsman were dancing to pluto of fiery aussie hot sun , i thought its all but dark holes looping for us , where even light can't escape , even gravity beckons to be called a force , but see what happened , not only our spinners cosmic rays bomabarded aussie dwarf dying stars but chawla , ashwin and bhajji have truly liven up the assessment of what we call mother earth , only which accepts life to its beauty , its truly a charisma. -by vijay
only the aus eng and SA are poor players of spin bowling..we cant have the same team against pak or lanka..even bangla would play our spinners better than aus..hence, three seamers and bhajji are a must..we have part timers in yusuf,yuvi,sehwag and sachin...
Re: only aus eng and sa
by Another Critic on Feb 13, 2011 11:35 PM
This strategy works only if we have quality seamers and only Zaheer fits into that quality seamers category.
Munaf was good in SA but Munaf and Sree will be hit all over the park in India.
Nehra can bowl 6 or 7 overs and the remaining 10 players should run him on a stretcher to the crease so he can bowl from there and complete his quota of 10 overs.
Re: Re: Re: only aus eng and sa
by Another Critic on Feb 13, 2011 11:49 PM
What do you mean by one match, as if we have not seen Munaf and Sree in IPL in the last three seasons. How effective were they in India?
Because two seamers are a must to open the innings, I think India will go with 2 seamers and 2 spinners. If India goes with 3 seamers, I am sure, 2 of them will not bowl their full quota of 10 overs.
Re: Re: Re: Re: only aus eng and sa
by Varun on Feb 14, 2011 12:04 AM
Sree is a strike bowler and he is expected to take wickets. Containing is not always the task bestowed to him. And he did his job. So dont know why you look at IPL which is T20 to judge him. As for Munaf, he can be effective and miserly but not during death overs. But that does not mean he is not going to have bad matches. Same can happen to zaheer.
Re: Re: Re: Re: only aus eng and sa
by Varun on Feb 14, 2011 12:05 AM
Dont disagree with 2 seamers. But that does not mean it will always be zaheer and sree or zaheer and nehra. I would rather decide it match by match and not draw blanket conclusions.
Kohli being consistent and Yusuf in striking form will put Raina out of the team for at least few initial matches India will be playing in the World Cup.
Re: Will Raina be in the playing eleven?
by veerapuram dharan on Feb 13, 2011 11:24 PM
three fast bowlers are a must in indian conditions..they can swing initially and reverse later..
Re: Will Raina be in the playing eleven?
by Jay on Feb 13, 2011 11:23 PM
I don't feel Raina deserves a spot in the starting XI against Bangladesh. He seems to be out of form and a world cup is so crucial that one game is too many to gain form. So Virat Kohli should get into the side.
Re: Re: Will Raina be in the playing eleven?
by Another Critic on Feb 13, 2011 11:28 PM
I don't get it, why Nehra is even in the team? This dude cannot get in his quota of 10 overs, not to mention his fitness level is pathetic and a poor batsman and a weak fielder.
Re: Re: Re: Will Raina be in the playing eleven?
by Varun on Feb 13, 2011 11:39 PM
yep. Only reasons are dhonis liking for him or deep wish for him to come good using the warm ups. I dont have much hope with Nehra. Wish to be proven wrong.
Re: Will Raina be in the playing eleven?
by Indranil Chowdhury on Feb 13, 2011 11:17 PM
Chawla made a case to be there in place of Aswin. And anyone is better than Yuvraj in this form.
Re: Re: Will Raina be in the playing eleven?
by Another Critic on Feb 13, 2011 11:25 PM
Chawla may have bowled well and picked few wickets today. Usually, with his flight, Chawla will be more expensive than Ashwin. Ashwin bowls a tight and steady line and gives away fewer runs, not to say Ashwin can also bat better than Chawla.
I think Ashwin will be preferred over Chawla at least in the early matches.
Re: Re: Will Raina be in the playing eleven?
by Varun on Feb 13, 2011 11:19 PM
Not for all matches. If the wicket is expected to spin or is chawlas type.
Re: Re: Re: Will Raina be in the playing eleven?
by Indranil Chowdhury on Feb 13, 2011 11:28 PM
Yes - it will depend on conditions. I dont see the need for either Raina or Yuv in this form. It is better to include good spinners in their place. It is either the top order or the tail with Yusuf that will bat anyway.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Will Raina be in the playing eleven?
by Varun on Feb 13, 2011 11:35 PM
pl dont be so quick to judge. It is a long tourney, esp gaps between matches.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Will Raina be in the playing eleven?
by Varun on Feb 13, 2011 11:50 PM
Indranil, oh i absolutely agree on the strategy part. And i am sure they would have it in mind. But i am guessing they are giving enough time for their so called trump cards to get back to indian wicket frame of mind. Raina and Yuvi can be match changers, esp in indian conditions. Law of averages can catch with all including our current in form people.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Will Raina be in the playing eleven?
by Indranil Chowdhury on Feb 13, 2011 11:43 PM
It is a long tournament and things can change in due course. But I still think there should be a strategy in place given the dismal show of the middle order, it will help in the long run in this tourney.
Are some of you even that much stupid to realize that the body language of the Indians from ball one was that of playfulness? clearly the Indian team didn't take this match seriously. It was evident from the way they ran between the wickets. I am sure they wanted to score a low target and then give good training to their bowlers to test their ability in crunch situations. Thankfully their spinners did a good job on what was a decent pitch for batting. This result shows the Aussies are not a powerful team like in yesteryear. Any team with a good spin attack can beat Australia in this tournament.
Re: Warm up
by Indranil Chowdhury on Feb 13, 2011 11:14 PM
Say what you want - but the weaknesses against pace was clearly exposed. Australia took a leaf out of Morne Morkel's exploits and made a mockery out of the much vaunted lineup. The 3 players - Raina Yuvraj and Dhoni are all over the place. There was no playfulness in the way they got out. It is pure incompetence against fast bowling. Same can be said about OZs who looked totally clueless against spin. We dont need to worry about them. It will help a lot in this WC if the middle order works out a strategy for fast bowling - all the top teams Aus, Eng and SA even Pak have terrific fast bowlers and should this show continue there will be no playfulness anymore.
Re: Re: Warm up
by Jay on Feb 13, 2011 11:28 PM
I agree. The Indians need to seriously look at their approach towards quality pace bowling. Since this is an ICC event, the pitches, I am sure will have some good bounce to give a chance to all teams. So yes the men in blue need to address some problems. However the main concern would be the forms of Yuvraj, Dhoni, and Raina. If the top order fails like it today then there could be trouble. If the opposition is a good spin playing nation like SL or Pak then India could chew their own fingers rather than nails.
Re: Re: Warm up
by Varun on Feb 13, 2011 11:21 PM
hehe. funny stuff. Our expert pretenders need only one match to draw sweeping conclusions. Dont bee foolish and say stuff you have to eat later on. When will you guys learn ?
Re: Re: Re: Warm up
by Indranil Chowdhury on Feb 13, 2011 11:34 PM
The poor show by these players is for a very long time, there is no pretension here.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Warm up
by Varun on Feb 13, 2011 11:44 PM
Dhoni ?. Thats funny. Raina yes but in wickets with bounce. Yuvi is coming back but is a proven match winner in Indian conditions. All he needs is a wicket where ball comes on to the bat. Never mind the pretense word. I would reserve my judgement for later.
Re: Re: Warm up
by Another Critic on Feb 13, 2011 11:21 PM
Don't worry, the master Sachin, Gambhir and Kohli will solve your fast bowling and middle order woes.
The major concern is Yuvraj, Dhoni and Raina are out of form. Yuvraj is bowling well and Dhoni is in the captain; hence both will continue in the team. I think Raina's head is on the line.
Re: Re: Re: Warm up
by Indranil Chowdhury on Feb 13, 2011 11:32 PM
I think you are right. But a even Yuvraj will be on-line if this form of his continues.
Re: Re: Warm up
by Jay on Feb 13, 2011 11:09 PM
Hi suppandi, I agree but were they convincing? that's the question. They are making the encounter against Bangladesh an interesting one.
