Is that a mistake by Hussy or Rediff. Defenitly Langer was a great batsman and can be the batting coach of Australia. but bowling coach. Isnt it funny?
Hussey, you are wrong! Let Sachin get his 100th and retire. Otherwise we Indians will continue to focus on his 100th ton rather than India's performance as a team.
Recently there was a comparison between Sie Sachin and Sir Don as to who is the greater! This are silly comparisons as the times are different. One cannot say that Sachin is greater because he scored 51 hundreds where as Don has only 29. But compare the number of matches played!
the nonsense of sachin's 100th hundred has been going on for too long.. this has become some kind of a national news. this only shows sachin and others just care about his hundreds and not about the teams progress and wins.
In Bradman’s time it was not easy to pick one’s weakness just standing at slips or point. That’s why Jardine had to use the theory of bowling on chest height to stop Bradman from scoring runs. Its true that then there was no such equipment like helmet, arm-guards to save you but then apart from Bodyline series there were no such instance where batsmen had to really save themselves from truly fast bowling. Interestingly, though Sachin plays few shots in the air when he tries to play drives on rising delivery (thanks to Today’s technology) and many captain tried to get his wicket at the early part of his innings, Nasser Hussain tried something different to get his wicket, by not letting him to score freely against his bowlers (though Sachin still had the second best strike rate after Sehwag in that series for India).
True that the average of 99.94 is considered to be top achievement in any sport statistically, however Cricket is not just a game of averages. There are many other things which should be consider like the standard of playing cricket. Nowadays so much of technology is used so that you can take out weak areas of a particular player. The standard of fielding is just too good. The Media hype and pressure is so much. Lots of cricket played, scoring in every part of the world. Sachin not only plays role in batting but also in many other areas like Sachin can spin the bowl like Shane Warne, Sachin is never afraid of taking resp
Re: sachin is greater than bradman - proof
by vijay on Dec 23, 2011 09:02 PM
Sachin is never afraid of taking responsibilities. Tendulkar took the ball from Azhar and Kapil in Hero Cup Semifinal and bowled the last over and did not let South Africa to score 6 runs to win the match. Just imagine if those runs were scored. Public and Media of India would have definitely gone after the little master. And if that’s not enough he is partially playing a role of mentor/coach of Indian Cricket Team.
Finally, its unfair to compare the two batsmen of different era but then it would also be unfair to call Sir Don as the greatest batsmen of “all times”.
Re: Re: sachin is greater than bradman - proof
by rocky on Dec 24, 2011 06:04 AM
everyone's has got their own proof and you have got yours.. the face is sachin is not even in the top 10 of greatest test players or even for odis.
Bradman played mostly against England and he got used to that bowling thats why scored over 5000 runs with an average of around 92. One series against each minnows [India, SouthAfrica and WestIndies were new in cricket that time] and scored heavily against them. Never played in Indian Sub-Continent against Indian spinners. Playing at Indian pitches is never been easy for any batsman.Nowdays Australian thinks Ricky Ponting is the best batsman after Bradman from Australia. Look his record in India! Sachin’s average in Australia is above 54. A batsman is perfect when he scores against really class bowlings. Excluding Larwood Bradman never played any quality bowlers. (and the other 2 were CV Grimmett & RR Lindwall, who belong to his own country) He never played against a bowler who bowls something like 160kmph on hard fast pitch where batsman hardly gets a chance to think of what should be played, whereas Sachin played against Ambrose-Walsh-Bishop, Wasim-Waqar-Akhtar, McGrath-Lee-Gilespie, Donald-Pollock, Warne-Murli and many more. The swing was unknown during that time, Sachin has to play reverse swing, which was no one could even imagined.
The fielder shattering stumps from the boundary was unheard in Bradman’s time. Just see the class of fielding nowadays, Rhodes, Ponting, Gibbs. The standard of fielding is far much better than it was in that time!
Bradman usually came at no.3 or no.4 and mostly when the score were 176 for 1 or 217 for 2. No pressure!! Just play the natural game and dominated the bowling. Unlike Sachin, Bradman had some really good openers from the start of his career. Woodfull & Ponsford had career average of 45 , Sachin usually came at no.4 & mostly when India lost both the openers with the scoreboard reading something 20-2!!! And then this best batsman of all time rescues the team. In Onedayers Sachin opens and starts blazing guns from the beginning and then steady in middle overs and again all guns blazing in last 10 overs. And at 37, if you are still able to do after playing 20 years, then it’s surely a remarkable thing !
Re: sachin is greater than bradman - proof
by sameer bhagwat on Dec 23, 2011 09:08 PM
I fear you are still struck in the 90s. Nowadays Sachin has sehwag, gambhir and dravid before him. That is a batting line up any number 4 would envy. By the time he comes the new ball has beacome quite old and his is the best position to bat from. the spinner and third seamer are in the attack and miking the bowling is far easier. In fact he has quite selfishly refused repeatedly to move away from this position, which was quite visible in England. dravid after his 146 not out had to open the innings in the second innings in order to accommodate sachin at 4 despite sachin being the regular opener in ODIs, a position he again refuses to vacate to gambhir.
Re: Re: sachin is greater than bradman - proof
by C M on Dec 24, 2011 01:06 AM
Gambhir..? hummm this is probably last series for Gambhir , if he sdoesnt score..how many runs he made in 2011..?? when is the last time he hit ton..?? I like the way he plays but he is going thru Virus route..Viru was also removed for similar reason few years back..First 4-5 years of last decade Sehwag, rahul Saurav were talented but inconsistent perfromer..So yeah its not just ninties...
Re: sachin is greater than bradman - proof
by sameer bhagwat on Dec 23, 2011 09:09 PM
I fear you are still struck in the 90s. Nowadays Sachin has sehwag, gambhir and dravid before him. That is a batting line up any number 4 would envy. By the time he comes the new ball has beacome quite old and his is the best position to bat from. the spinner and third seamer are in the attack and miking the bowling is far easier. In fact he has quite selfishly refused repeatedly to move away from this position, which was quite visible in England. dravid after his 146 not out had to open the innings in the second innings in order to accommodate sachin at 4 despite sachin being the regular opener in ODIs, a position he again refuses to vacate to gambhir.
Re: Re: sachin is greater than bradman - proof
by suresh dsethumadhavan on Dec 26, 2011 09:16 PM
Well said. I also have the same opinion. He refuses to bat in middle order in one dayers whereas he refuses to open in tests. He bats in the position comfortable to him in both one dayers and tests. Is this not selfishness ? Even Ganguly came one down to allow Sachin & Sehwag open the innings in one dayers ending a successful opening partnership with Sachin. To everyone, I ask a question. Whenever the team needs him, has he performed ? Rarely. Let me give an e.g. World cup 1983, India Vs Zim. India 17/5. Kapil Dev played a gem of an innings to score 175 and won the match for India. Another e.g. India Vs England in Natwest Series 2002. India chasing England's mammoth 345 ?? And India was 145/5. Came Yuvraj & Kaif, won the match for India. Tendulkar also played in that match. Look at tests. India Vs Australia 2001. India followed on and Laxman scored 275 and Dravid scored a century. What did Tendulkar do in that match ? People keep talking about his Sharjah innings as Desert Storm. That's one of the rare times he played like that. That too, he opened. Let him come in the middle order, and the team is something like 17/5 or even 145/5. Do you really get the confidence that this bloke will take the team past the line ?
Re: Re: sachin is greater than bradman - proof
by Suresh DS on Dec 26, 2011 09:17 PM
Well said. I also have the same opinion. He refuses to bat in middle order in one dayers whereas he refuses to open in tests. He bats in the position comfortable to him in both one dayers and tests. Is this not selfishness ? Even Ganguly came one down to allow Sachin & Sehwag open the innings in one dayers ending a successful opening partnership with Sachin. To everyone, I ask a question. Whenever the team needs him, has he performed ? Rarely. Let me give an e.g. World cup 1983, India Vs Zim. India 17/5. Kapil Dev played a gem of an innings to score 175 and won the match for India. Another e.g. India Vs England in Natwest Series 2002. India chasing England's mammoth 345 ?? And India was 145/5. Came Yuvraj & Kaif, won the match for India. Tendulkar also played in that match. Look at tests. India Vs Australia 2001. India followed on and Laxman scored 275 and Dravid scored a century. What did Tendulkar do in that match ? People keep talking about his Sharjah innings as Desert Storm. That's one of the rare times he played like that. That too, he opened. Let him come in the middle order, and the team is something like 17/5 or even 145/5. Do you really get the confidence that this bloke will take the team past the line ?
Re: Re: Re: sachin is greater than bradman - proof
by suresh dsethumadhavan on Dec 26, 2011 09:22 PM
Of course in 1983 world cup, Tendulkar didn't play. I just mentioned it to say, in such a situation, Tendulkar would have played like that ? Don't say such a situation never arose at all. Many a times in his career India has been bowled out cheaply. But he has not anything remarkably in such matches.
Re: Re: Re: Re: sachin is greater than bradman - proof
by Vrishti on Dec 27, 2011 09:30 AM
Dumbo, it is already 3 days since this discussion happened. u wasted ur energy typing so much nonsense, hehehehe
Aussies would be hoping for a double century from Sachin, similar to the one in Sydney where despite Laxman's superb effort, Sachin with his selfish batting managed to draw the match for the Aussies. The innings was later described by Ian Chappel as the worst double century he had ever seen. In fact each of Sachin's double century has been worse than the previous one and he had to rely on matches against bangladesh or zimbabwe or else he would still be without a double century by now. Comapared to that, cricketers like Lara, dravid, waugh are on a different level altogether.
Re: Aussies hoping for Sachin double century
by Nostradamus Great on Dec 23, 2011 09:23 PM
Yeah thats very true.. And every one of his centuries are also a shame! he shld be banned from all forms of the game and also all his records should be scrapped! Players like Danny Morrison, McGrath, Antony Martin etc are better batsmen than Sachin! The legendary pakistani batsman Abdul Qadir described Sachin's batting as the worst he's ever since in his life! In fact the great batsman Kumara Dharmasena also echoed that thought! ;-)
Re: Re: Aussies hoping for Sachin double century
by prakash sharma on Dec 24, 2011 12:45 AM
great nostra ... YOu have shown .. nowadays only fools hijack online social and discussion forums ..!! WOrst batting that too Sachin ??
He is the Baap of all Cricketers . DOnt u forget that . Abdul Qadir ?? whos dat by da way ..Anyone except pakis ever heard of him ?????u talk of wasim akram and we wil agree he was legendary. and Kumara Dharmasena the great ?? lol . Didnt u get any other names like ranatunga or De silva ..!! ??who were truly legendary
the debate ends here , my research says sachin is greatest ever:
Unarguably the most worshiped cricketer, Sachin Tendulkar has been rated above every other batsmen/cricketer. Though that doesn’t mean Sir Don was less great but what Sachin had been doing since 1989, no one else has been able to do in their short/long career. This is something Indian fans had felt quite a long time back.
So how does Sachin Tendulkar outscores Sir Don?
1.Pressure
Tendulkar plays under huge pressure. 1 billion people expecting you to perform in each and every match. To perform consistently well for 20 years as per expectations is just Brilliant! Bradman never had such pressure in his whole career apart from bodyline series and in his last innings against England. And just look what pressure can do. His average which was usually over 100 in maximum series came down to just 52 in bodyline series. When the whole world was watching him to score just 4 runs in his last innings he couldn’t even score those runs. This is what pressure is all about. And Tendulkar goes through such pressure in each every match. Even the matches against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. With one failure public, media, everyone in India starts criticizing the Greats of Indian cricket. Still he is performing consistently. Isn’t this amazing?
2.Fitness
Bradman played 52 tests in 20 years whereas Sachin has played 162 tests in 20 years. In Bradman’s time not many matches we
Hussey is a fool. instead of trying to prevent sachin from scoring his 100th ton they should let him have it as it would eventually mean victory for australia. If I were to be on Clarke's position i would have given orders to my boys to allow sachin to score a century bcoz cricketing world knows what happens to India when he scores a century.
Re: Australia should pray for sachin's 100th ton
by Nationalistic Patriot on Dec 23, 2011 06:45 PM
Only 8 of Sachin's 51 Hundreds have ended in losses. That shows your lack on cricketing knowledge and low I Q.
Re: Australia should pray for sachin's 100th ton
by Nostradamus Great on Dec 23, 2011 09:25 PM
Thank G0d you are not Clarke or Hussey... You are just a pusseyy! he he
Re: Australia should pray for sachin's 100th ton
by Against Pseudos on Dec 24, 2011 01:58 PM
Foreigner:
:-)... I think Clarke should also allow his bowlers to let Dravid score a century... coz the cricketing world also knows what happens to India when Dravid scores a century... :)
