India to regroup and comeback in the series ? First, analyse the overall conditions and performance of the two sides in the first two tests. India underestimated England and even while they were fully prepared the Indians were "undercooked" as Nasser Hussain said. So, Indians started with a handicap which is not relevant any more now after playing two tests. Then there was the bowling problem of Zaheer and Bhajji but the remaining pacers did much better than expectations and even partially made good that bowling disadvantage.If only the batters --Sachin,Gambhir and Dhoni, even if one among the three had come good then the 1st test could have been drawn. And if the 1st test had been drawn then approach of 2nd would have been different. Indians are getting replacement in Ojha etc. and it is felt the bowling may not be a big problem. Also, joining of Sehwag would strengthen batting but he lacks match practice. Also, batting cannot be dependent just on Dravid and Laxman.The bottom line is going to be how Sachin and Dhoni besides others contribute in the remaining two tests. Unless Sachin and Dhoni perform India have very slim chance of recovering.
India battled for 150 odd overs to post a respectable 410 thanks to a fighting 148 by Dravid. In the seconds inning too, Dravid's 81 helped India set a victory of target of 356 runs. At 95-7 it appeared that victory was ours. But thanks to an inept show by the Indian bowlers, the Proteas managed a draw at 228-8
1999 Hamilton: When we might have chased 415 The Wall stayed at the crease for more than eight hours and hit a glorious 190. Despite that, we found ourselves chasing a victory target of 415 in the final innings. When play ended, we were at 249-2 going at a blistering run rate of 4.8 with both Dravid and Ganguly on unbeaten centuries 2002 England: Dravid all the way In the 2002 England campaign, we lost the very first Test by 170 runs. England supporters were already talking of a clean sweep, but The Wall had other ideas. Three straight centuries and two man-of-the match awards followed and India ended with a respectable 1-1. Man of the series Dravid belted 600 odd runs at an average of 100!
2003 Adelaide: Ricky's double goes in vain In his career, Steve Waugh lost only two matches on home soil as captain. One of those was thanks to Dravid. On the first day of the second Test in Adelaide, Australia ended Day 1 at 400-5. 'Can't Lose' declared a cheeky local headline. Australia posted 556 thanks to a brilliant double by Ricky Ponting. India crashed to 85-4 and it seemed curtains for us. But a brilliant 233 by Dravid along with a triple century partne
India battled for 150 odd overs to post a respectable 410 thanks to a fighting 148 by Dravid. In the seconds inning too, Dravid's 81 helped India set a victory of target of 356 runs. At 95-7 it appeared that victory was ours. But thanks to an inept show by the Indian bowlers, the Proteas managed a draw at 228-8
1999 Hamilton: When we might have chased 415 The Wall stayed at the crease for more than eight hours and hit a glorious 190. Despite that, we found ourselves chasing a victory target of 415 in the final innings. When play ended, we were at 249-2 going at a blistering run rate of 4.8 with both Dravid and Ganguly on unbeaten centuries 2002 England: Dravid all the way In the 2002 England campaign, we lost the very first Test by 170 runs. England supporters were already talking of a clean sweep, but The Wall had other ideas. Three straight centuries and two man-of-the match awards followed and India ended with a respectable 1-1. Man of the series Dravid belted 600 odd runs at an average of 100!
2003 Adelaide: Ricky's double goes in vain In his career, Steve Waugh lost only two matches on home soil as captain. One of those was thanks to Dravid. On the first day of the second Test in Adelaide, Australia ended Day 1 at 400-5. 'Can't Lose' declared a cheeky local headline. Australia posted 556 thanks to a brilliant double by Ricky Ponting. India crashed to 85-4 and it seemed curtains for us. But a brilliant 233 by Dravid along with a triple century partnership
era has ended for Rahul "The Wall" Dravid. Right from his debut in 1996, to the beginning of the current England series, India never lost a match when Dravid scored a Test century against any of the top 8 cricketing nations. That's as reliable as you can get in today's topsy turvy world of Test cricket. What began at Lord's 15 years ago, ended at Lord's this year. You can say that life has come a full circle for Dravid. To make matters worse, exactly the same thing happened in Trent Bridge. For Dravid to make two centuries in two matches and for India to lose both games miserably shows how much in the doldrums the current team is in. But that still does not take away the fact that Dravid probably is the greatest overseas Test player that India has ever produced. It's not just about records and centuries. In the last odd decade, India has done really well on foreign soil and Dravid has been the key in almost all of those matches. A look at some of his very best overseas performances... 1997 Johannesburg: When we almost beat the Proteas on their turf One of our worst records has been on South African soil. Forget winning, even drawing has been a tough task. 0-2 down in 1997, we had a chance to make it a respectable 1-2 at Johannesburg. India battled for 150 odd overs to post a respectable 410 thanks to a fighting 148 by Dravid. In the seconds inning too, Dravid's 81 helped India set a victory of target of 356 runs. At 95-7 it appeared that victory
Re: an era of dravid
by KUMAR kumar on Aug 04, 2011 06:43 PM
India battled for 150 odd overs to post a respectable 410 thanks to a fighting 148 by Dravid. In the seconds inning too, Dravid's 81 helped India set a victory of target of 356 runs. At 95-7 it appeared that victory was ours. But thanks to an inept show by the Indian bowlers, the Proteas managed a draw at 228-8
1999 Hamilton: When we might have chased 415 The Wall stayed at the crease for more than eight hours and hit a glorious 190. Despite that, we found ourselves chasing a victory target of 415 in the final innings. When play ended, we were at 249-2 going at a blistering run rate of 4.8 with both Dravid and Ganguly on unbeaten centuries 2002 England: Dravid all the way In the 2002 England campaign, we lost the very first Test by 170 runs. England supporters were already talking of a clean sweep, but The Wall had other ideas. Three straight centuries and two man-of-the match awards followed and India ended with a respectable 1-1. Man of the series Dravid belted 600 odd runs at an average of 100!
2003 Adelaide: Ricky's double goes in vain In his career, Steve Waugh lost only two matches on home soil as captain. One of those was thanks to Dravid. On the first day of the second Test in Adelaide, Australia ended Day 1 at 400-5. 'Can't Lose' declared a cheeky local headline. Australia posted 556 thanks to a brilliant double by Ricky Ponting. India crashed to 85-4 and it seemed curtains for us. But a brilliant 233 by Dravid along with a triple century partnership
Re: an era of dravid
by KUMAR kumar on Aug 04, 2011 06:44 PM
India battled for 150 odd overs to post a respectable 410 thanks to a fighting 148 by Dravid. In the seconds inning too, Dravid's 81 helped India set a victory of target of 356 runs. At 95-7 it appeared that victory was ours. But thanks to an inept show by the Indian bowlers, the Proteas managed a draw at 228-8
1999 Hamilton: When we might have chased 415 The Wall stayed at the crease for more than eight hours and hit a glorious 190. Despite that, we found ourselves chasing a victory target of 415 in the final innings. When play ended, we were at 249-2 going at a blistering run rate of 4.8 with both Dravid and Ganguly on unbeaten centuries 2002 England: Dravid all the way In the 2002 England campaign, we lost the very first Test by 170 runs. England supporters were already talking of a clean sweep, but The Wall had other ideas. Three straight centuries and two man-of-the match awards followed and India ended with a respectable 1-1. Man of the series Dravid belted 600 odd runs at an average of 100!
2003 Adelaide: Ricky's double goes in vain In his career, Steve Waugh lost only two matches on home soil as captain. One of those was thanks to Dravid. On the first day of the second Test in Adelaide, Australia ended Day 1 at 400-5. 'Can't Lose' declared a cheeky local headline. Australia posted 556 thanks to a brilliant double by Ricky Ponting. India crashed to 85-4 and it seemed curtains for us. But a brilliant 233 by Dravid along with a triple century partne
era has ended for Rahul "The Wall" Dravid. Right from his debut in 1996, to the beginning of the current England series, India never lost a match when Dravid scored a Test century against any of the top 8 cricketing nations. That's as reliable as you can get in today's topsy turvy world of Test cricket. What began at Lord's 15 years ago, ended at Lord's this year. You can say that life has come a full circle for Dravid. To make matters worse, exactly the same thing happened in Trent Bridge. For Dravid to make two centuries in two matches and for India to lose both games miserably shows how much in the doldrums the current team is in. But that still does not take away the fact that Dravid probably is the greatest overseas Test player that India has ever produced. It's not just about records and centuries. In the last odd decade, India has done really well on foreign soil and Dravid has been the key in almost all of those matches. A look at some of his very best overseas performances... 1997 Johannesburg: When we almost beat the Proteas on their turf One of our worst records has been on South African soil. Forget winning, even drawing has been a tough task. 0-2 down in 1997, we had a chance to make it a respectable 1-2 at Johannesburg. India battled for 150 odd overs to post a respectable 410 thanks to a fighting 148 by Dravid. In the seconds inning too, Dravid's 81 helped India set a victory of target of 356 runs. At 95-7 it appeared that victory
Re: AN ERA OF END DRAVID SIFY.COM
by KUMAR kumar on Aug 04, 2011 06:44 PM
India battled for 150 odd overs to post a respectable 410 thanks to a fighting 148 by Dravid. In the seconds inning too, Dravid's 81 helped India set a victory of target of 356 runs. At 95-7 it appeared that victory was ours. But thanks to an inept show by the Indian bowlers, the Proteas managed a draw at 228-8
1999 Hamilton: When we might have chased 415 The Wall stayed at the crease for more than eight hours and hit a glorious 190. Despite that, we found ourselves chasing a victory target of 415 in the final innings. When play ended, we were at 249-2 going at a blistering run rate of 4.8 with both Dravid and Ganguly on unbeaten centuries 2002 England: Dravid all the way In the 2002 England campaign, we lost the very first Test by 170 runs. England supporters were already talking of a clean sweep, but The Wall had other ideas. Three straight centuries and two man-of-the match awards followed and India ended with a respectable 1-1. Man of the series Dravid belted 600 odd runs at an average of 100!
2003 Adelaide: Ricky's double goes in vain In his career, Steve Waugh lost only two matches on home soil as captain. One of those was thanks to Dravid. On the first day of the second Test in Adelaide, Australia ended Day 1 at 400-5. 'Can't Lose' declared a cheeky local headline. Australia posted 556 thanks to a brilliant double by Ricky Ponting. India crashed to 85-4 and it seemed curtains for us. But a brilliant 233 by Dravid along with a triple century partnership
Five of India's eight series wins - of the 11 series it had played - since October 2008 had come at home, and the other three had come against Bangladesh, West Indies and New Zealand, three of the weakest Test teams.India had drawn with South Africa both at home and away, and had not beaten the Sri Lankans on their home turf during this period. So India's ascendancy had been a "statistical miracle". Now BCCI will organise 3 or 4 series in India against WI, Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and NZ to retain the No.1 :)
Both matches have been so hopelessly one sided that it is almost impossible but to take a critical view of the Indian team's abilities. If Indian batsmen can be faulted for not being able to negotiatiate the short raisinging oor the swinging deliveries, the bowlers can be faulted for not being able to produce such deliveries under the same condititons consistently as their English counterparts. This is the main reason for the outcry. The English have clearly identified Indian weakness with both bat and ball and thus shows the result.
Nothing can be done with regard to captaincy etc since there is an inherent lack with the players strengths' playing in English conditions. Things wont be very differnt in Australia or SA as well. The long term solution could be to prepare such wickets back home and get used to it instead of hammering sixes on dead wickets with a million simpletons cheering all around
Re: Re: 2 pacers, 2 spinner and 1 pacer cum swinger all-rounder
by D S on Aug 04, 2011 04:19 PM
Re: NOW HYPE IS BUILT ABOUT due to weak-gutless batting.
videshi commentators and official and media sitting with shastri, wasim, gavaskar have two goals
1.spread misinformation 2. collect intelligence.
Based on 2. where angrez saw pakistan players support to India.
Angrez ICC gave $15 million to PCB so pakistani fans of india backout, angrez did not like the support of Akram and want Assad Raut to be good to angrez team. Angrez want separation at any cost.
>>>>>>>> But the fact that even Graeme Swann equally struggled on seamers' strip, has conveniently been brushed under the carpet. >>>>>>>>
This is nothing but Bhajji Buttering. He is indeed a dud in this series. Swann might not have taken wickets as the quickies have done but Swann troubled the batsmen did not given Indian batsmen to score runs and in the process regain the confidence. It is not just that Indian Batsmen were woefully out of form, it was a superior bowling of England, especially of Swann (in unfriendly pitch condition). Indian quickies were worn down by lack of support from the slowers especially Bhajji that resulted in the lesser experienced Trio (Praveen, Ishant, Sreesanth) could not clear the board off. Even the part-timer Yuvi bowled better than so called 4th top wicket taker. Lets first come out of glory of the past. The present is Bhajji clicks only once in 3 series that too when his position becomes blatantly untenable in the team that even his supporters in the board or elsewhere couldnt argue for this place in team. I would always prefer a Pragyan or Amit or Ashwin even a Piyush to Bhajji as even if they are as useless in result as Bhajji is atleast they will get more experience and can be more productive than now.
When India was playing with WI in WT, Sachin was very much in England for holidays. He failed to read the mood of England. India won the series in WI, and in England she started loosing, Why ? Is it inclusion of SRT or so ?
Re: WI/England
by Indira Warrier on Aug 04, 2011 05:59 PM
biggest joke of the century.. if that's the way you play with a third class cricket team as west indies (they r just minnows now..ok?) then how can they play against the world class english team? reemmber england won in australia fair and square where as india have never won a series except in west indies (now), and bangladesh. We never could wina series in Srilanka too.. stop nonsense..
Re: WI/England
by Against Pseudos on Aug 05, 2011 05:49 AM
A Sim Card:
:) It was indeed excellent that India won against WI.... I mean it would have been a shame losing to a team that Bangladesh could beat ...
BTW, I noticed Dhoni was very much in England during the Lord's test (unless you choose to disagree with me).. Did he too fail to read the modd of England? Why? Is it our recurring inability to make Dhoni as the non-playing captain?
