Don't give tame excuse mr senthil. Even sachin, yuvi, gambhir came from wcup win & all performing. (In fact these 3 were bigger contributor than average raina, dhoni etc). Fact is last IPL also dhoni was a big failure as batsman & falied in 10 out of 12 matches. this IPL also he fialed in 4 out of 5 matches as a batsman. But then i can never challenge dhoni luck & CSK can come back any time. As a batsman dhoni is simply ordinary who clicks just once a while in all format of game. captaincy is just overhyped thing in India otherwise it doesn't have more than 10% role in cricket. Yes luck wise dhoni is always great & get return more than what he desrve
Re: Reply to Senthil
by Senthil on Apr 25, 2011 01:29 PM
LOL, I haven't said Dhoni out of form affecting CSK, since he is not at all a concern but S Raina is the Leading run Scorer of IPL(Overall) Still not in the Top 10 list this Season is affecting CSK a lot. As far as T20 concerned S Raina is really Bigger, Accept it or not, it's True, He is the Only Indian batsman to score International T20 Century as well, but he is Not at all a Test Level Batsman.
Dhoni scores well or not is not going to affect CSK result.
You have to understand what I mentioned, "Key players like S Raina, Dhoni and Ashwin coming after a Emotional World cup win and yet to take it serious ;-)"
Read again, I m not going to debate who has done well or not. But S Raina knock in Q/F and Semi are definitely Ranks Higher as his Best knocks at International Level, I always maintain S Raina is a Best ODI Player perhaps a best Limited Over Player.
Re: Reply to Senthil
by Senthil on Apr 25, 2011 01:33 PM
I don't believe in Luck, as Dhoni himself said He is Lucky to Captain this Great Indian team and get Most of the players Including SRT in his form of his Life, but otherwise Luck is just doesn't matter, India chased Twice over 260 plus in the Knock out and Once depended the 260, so it's not LUCK
Don't give tame excuse mr senthil. Even sachin, yuvi, gambhir came from wcup win & all performing. (In fact these 3 were bigger contributor than average raina, dhoni etc). Fact is last IPL also dhoni was a big failure as batsman & falied in 10 out of 12 matches. this IPL also he fialed in 4 out of 5 matches as a batsman. But then i can never challenge dhoni luck & CSK can come back any time. As a batsman dhoni is simply ordinary who clicks just once a while in all format of game. captaincy is just overhyped thing in India otherwise it doesn't have more than 10% role in cricket. Yes luck wise dhoni is always great & get return more than what he desrve
Re: Reply to Senthil
by ASHISH KUMAR on Apr 25, 2011 01:21 PM
Sachin , yuvi , gambhir played entire tounament & performed also still not tired. how come raina/ashwin tired just by playing two matches. also dhoni by performing just in one match. As far as emotion is concerned, sachin & yuvi were more emotional. Everyone know raina is in team always due to closeness to dhoni & not one merit
Re: Re: Reply to Senthil
by Senthil on Apr 25, 2011 01:35 PM
Without S Raina knocks in Quarter and Semi - India wouldn't have Reached Final for 100% Sure, his Finishing touch in Both Matches are excellent to say the least
Re: Re: Reply to Senthil
by ASHISH KUMAR on Apr 25, 2011 01:25 PM
As far as seriousness is concerned, everone know all players are more serious for IPL than international cricket because of money & fame involved in it. See like of malinga, gyle etc. Even sehwag postponed his surgery till end of IPL so as he can rest in international series. Nothing wrong in that also. So no excuse please for losses. IPL is more fair than ODI team selection. In IPL every one can show his talent while in intl ODI/T-20 team u have to be chamcha odf dhoni & u must belong to north even if u are player like chawala, raina, nehra, praveen etc. No scope for player from south & mumbai.
CSK was struggling in IPL 3 n the weak link was their bowling. It was Bollinger's inclusion which changed fortunes of CSK then.
But with Bollinger coming out of injury in this edition is not as threatening as was in IPL 3. So i think CSK will struggle to beat top teams like MI, PWI or for that matter even RCB & Kochi
Re: it was virtually same last year too
by Senthil on Apr 25, 2011 12:43 PM
CSK problem is S Raina only, He yet to fire, once he is back to his Self, CSK will be formidable but let see
Re: Re: Re: it was virtually same last year too
by Senthil on Apr 25, 2011 12:49 PM
Useless Morkel? He never given a chance to Bat up and whenever he Batted he done well and He is the ONLY CSK bowler to bowl a Maiden over in this edition, He failed with bat only against MI.
Bollinger doing the same job as he did last year, I don't think there is not Much difference, Stat wise also.
Batting is considered as CSK's strong Point but they are not scoring as much as the Bowlers want to defend
Morkel is fine, without Albie CSK can't do anything
Re: Re: Re: Re: it was virtually same last year too
by shankar mani on Apr 25, 2011 12:59 PM
What Morkel did when he got an opportunity to bat against MI? He had enough time to bat or at the least to support Badri, but this useless player did not use the opportunity. Taking one maiden over as a point is not enough to say good bowler, bowler has to take wickets to help their team to win. He is good for nothing in this tournament? If CSK wants to win they have to throw him away from team.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: it was virtually same last year too
by Senthil on Apr 25, 2011 01:10 PM
One failure doesn't make him bad batsman.
44 Matches 151.4 overs - 3 Maidens, 45 Wickets at 28.26 Avg and 8.38 E Rate
35 Innings - 572 runs at 27.33 Avg at 147.04 SR.
I don't know what else Albie can do for CSK.
His SR is the best for any CSK Batsman and next is M Vijay with 146.91 SR while his Avg is not bad at all for a Batsman Have to start Hitting from ball 1.
As a bowler he has done more than what he suppose to do, If u look at All rounders who bowls in Powerplay and Death overs, his E Rate will be Better.
Re: Re: Re: Re: it was virtually same last year too
by TruthisBitter on Apr 25, 2011 12:52 PM
tk my word Albie Morkel will soon be dropped frm the team.
he's a mediocre bowler n average batsman. Kulasekra is much better option than him
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: it was virtually same last year too
by Senthil on Apr 25, 2011 12:53 PM
Let See, unless injured Albie can be never dropped from CSK.
Re: for csk to win
by shankar mani on Apr 25, 2011 12:44 PM
last time sakshi dhoni was there when we won the champions league twenty 20. CSK is lacking in bowling dept, that is why they are not wining. Just don't take morkel and Randiv
Re: for csk to win
by Senthil on Apr 25, 2011 12:19 PM
hehehehhe
They are saving energy and they will show it all when they need to win all the Matches to qualify for Next stage as they did in the last 3 years but this time, let see, Tough for them since Indian Key players like S Raina, Dhoni and Ashwin coming after a Emotional World cup win and yet to take it serious ;-)
Re: Re: for csk to win
by ASHISH KUMAR on Apr 25, 2011 01:18 PM
Don't give tame excuse mr senthil. Even sachin, yuvi, gambhir came from wcup win & all performing. (In fact these 3 were bigger contributor than average raina, dhoni etc). Fact is last IPL also dhoni was a big failure as batsman & falied in 10 out of 12 matches. this IPL also he fialed in 4 out of 5 matches as a batsman. But then i can never challenge dhoni luck & CSK can come back any time. As a batsman dhoni is simply ordinary who clicks just once a while in all format of game. captaincy is just overhyped thing in India otherwise it doesn't have more than 10% role in cricket. Yes luck wise dhoni is always great & get return more than what he desrve
Re: Re: for csk to win
by ASHISH KUMAR on Apr 25, 2011 01:15 PM
Don't give tame excuse mr senthil. Even sachin, yuvi, gambhir came from wcup win & all performing. (In fact these 3 were bigger contributor than average raina, dhoni etc). Fact is last IPL also dhoni was a big failure as batsman & falied in 10 out of 12 matches. this IPL also he fialed in 4 out of 5 matches as a batsman. But then i can never challenge dhoni luck & CSK can come back any time. As a batsman dhoni is simply ordinary who clicks just once a while in all format of game. captaincy is just overhyped thing in India otherwise it doesn't have more than 10% role in cricket. Yes luck wise dhoni is always great & get return more than what he desrve
Re: Re: for csk to win
by ASHISH KUMAR on Apr 25, 2011 01:16 PM
Don't give tame excuse mr senthil. Even sachin, yuvi, gambhir came from wcup win & all performing. (In fact these 3 were bigger contributor than average raina, dhoni etc). Fact is last IPL also dhoni was a big failure as batsman & falied in 10 out of 12 matches. this IPL also he fialed in 4 out of 5 matches as a batsman. But then i can never challenge dhoni luck & CSK can come back any time. As a batsman dhoni is simply ordinary who clicks just once a while in all format of game. captaincy is just overhyped thing in India otherwise it doesn't have more than 10% role in cricket. Yes luck wise dhoni is always great & get return more than what he desrve
Re: Re: for csk to win
by ASHISH KUMAR on Apr 25, 2011 01:17 PM
Don't give tame excuse mr senthil. Even sachin, yuvi, gambhir came from wcup win & all performing. (In fact these 3 were bigger contributor than average raina, dhoni etc). Fact is last IPL also dhoni was a big failure as batsman & falied in 10 out of 12 matches. this IPL also he fialed in 4 out of 5 matches as a batsman. But then i can never challenge dhoni luck & CSK can come back any time. As a batsman dhoni is simply ordinary who clicks just once a while in all format of game. captaincy is just overhyped thing in India otherwise it doesn't have more than 10% role in cricket. Yes luck wise dhoni is always great & get return more than what he desrve
Re: Re: for csk to win
by ASHISH KUMAR on Apr 25, 2011 01:16 PM
Don't give tame excuse mr senthil. Even sachin, yuvi, gambhir came from wcup win & all performing. (In fact these 3 were bigger contributor than average raina, dhoni etc). Fact is last IPL also dhoni was a big failure as batsman & falied in 10 out of 12 matches. this IPL also he fialed in 4 out of 5 matches as a batsman. But then i can never challenge dhoni luck & CSK can come back any time. As a batsman dhoni is simply ordinary who clicks just once a while in all format of game. captaincy is just overhyped thing in India otherwise it doesn't have more than 10% role in cricket. Yes luck wise dhoni is always great & get return more than what he desrve
Re: Re: for csk to win
by ASHISH KUMAR on Apr 25, 2011 01:17 PM
Don't give tame excuse mr senthil. Even sachin, yuvi, gambhir came from wcup win & all performing. (In fact these 3 were bigger contributor than average raina, dhoni etc). Fact is last IPL also dhoni was a big failure as batsman & falied in 10 out of 12 matches. this IPL also he fialed in 4 out of 5 matches as a batsman. But then i can never challenge dhoni luck & CSK can come back any time. As a batsman dhoni is simply ordinary who clicks just once a while in all format of game. captaincy is just overhyped thing in India otherwise it doesn't have more than 10% role in cricket. Yes luck wise dhoni is always great & get return more than what he desrve
Re: IPL auction is mindless and has no cricketing sense!!!!!!!!!!
by ASHISH KUMAR on Apr 25, 2011 01:27 PM
Biggest luggae for CSK is dhoni as a batsman who comes at key position to bat & succeeds only one on 10 matches
Re: Hail Rediff......
by Vicky Devil on Apr 25, 2011 10:25 AM
Whomseever compiled this needs to understand the meaning of proof reading.... What the heck is wrong with these guys??? First they say CSK takes on Pune on Monday then two lines later the encounter is on Sunday?????
If you want to win matches from here onwards, please go with the following playing XI (in batting order):
1. Anirudh Srikanth 2. Murali Vijay 3. Suresh Raina 4. Badrinath 5. M. Hussey 6. Dhoni 7. N Kulasekara 8. R Ashwin 9. S Jagati 10. Tim Southee 11. D Bollinger
This team gives you three quality pacers in Kulasekara, Southee and Bollinger and two full time spinners in Ashwin and Jagati. If necessary, Raina can bowl a few overs. Also, batting is strengthened with the inclusion of Kulasekara and exclusion of Albie Morkel and Randiv. With Ashwin and Raina in the team, it is very unnecessary to have another offspinner (Randiv) in the team.
If Hussey comes in at No.4 or down, he can play much better if there is a crisis of fall of a few wickets in the top order. Raina and Badri are players who need time to settle down and hence should come up in the batting order.
Besides the team composition, it is necessary for the players to field much better than they have done so far.
I would like to see CSK play the finals of IPL 2011 against either MI or Pune Warriors.
they have lost their morale, their winning ways. not likely to recover. whether the last ranking or the last but one is the real state! every other team against CSK performs better!
Re: Re: CSK performance
by ASHISH KUMAR on Apr 25, 2011 01:33 PM
I would love to see this laundry boy d-ho-bi is washed out by all good teams. Just made of luck & taking credit of other performance whether its IPL or Indian team. Master in regional politics. always prfer northy in every team.
Re: Robin uthappa should always bat 1 down
by ASHISH KUMAR on Apr 25, 2011 01:35 PM
Plyer like uthapa, rohit sharma,valthaty,raidu etc are out of team just because of dhoni regional politics otherwise they desrve more chance than dhoni friends, raina, chawal, praveen kumar, nehra , bhajji etc
