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Dilip Mahanty
Bangalore Test
by Dilip Mahanty on Oct 11, 2010 02:58 AM  | Hide replies

Sanjay Manjrekar in his interview in Cricinfo after the second day said that the wicket was flat and unresponsive after providing some help on the first day.
Murli Vijay, who is at the batting crease, stated that the wicket was two paced and deteriorating and therefore is becoming more difficult to play on. Now who is correct -an arm chair commentator sitting in the comfort of a commentator's box or a batsman actually facing the bowling? Was Manjrekar so superior a batsman that for him the wicket looked easy while Vijay, a relative new comer, was creating an unnecessary fuss?
Wish we cricket lovers get a correct picture instead of such varied views!

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iamyouth
Re: Bangalore Test
by iamyouth on Oct 11, 2010 09:07 AM
sanjay, a failed batsman, a jealousy colleague who couldnt see sachin scoring runs, badmouthed him several times. i would never go by the comment of sanjay but believe in Murli who is palying right out there!!

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Rajendra Uparkar
Re: Re: Bangalore Test
by Rajendra Uparkar on Oct 11, 2010 11:39 AM
Never go by Manjrekar's comments. Most of the time, his comments are biased and prejudiced (more particularly when Sachin is batting).

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jk
time to say BYE by Dravid
by jk on Oct 10, 2010 11:39 PM  | Hide replies

what a selfish person ( what one can expect) and Dravid should give his place to other players who can score some runs. In fact, RCB also should send this guy out. It is real sick. People like Dravid is good to be Poojari in temple for ever ( there is no yard stick to measure performance ) and keep saying that they are the only people can talk to god directly. Sad such a selfish people still around in modern India.

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Giridhar
Re: time to say BYE by Dravid
by Giridhar on Oct 10, 2010 11:45 PM
Let me tell you one thing, keep it in mind and never post such sh1tty things. "No one around the corner in India can replace Dravid and forget about Pujara, Badri and all . I agree he is going through bad patches, I am sure he will come back"

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navdeep johar
Re: Re: time to say BYE by Dravid
by navdeep johar on Oct 11, 2010 10:36 AM
he is 38 now and shd make ay for pujara

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Rajan S
Re: Re: time to say BYE by Dravid
by Rajan S on Oct 10, 2010 11:57 PM
The contributions which dravid and laxman had given india in the last 10 years, remains unmatched till now. There are times when u will be out of form, but what is more important is that, when u r in form or when u r playing well, u must ensure that the team ends up winning. Otherwise, what is the use?
I wonder how many matches we would have won, had dravid and laxman not played in the indian team!!

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jk
Re: Re: Re: time to say BYE by Dravid
by jk on Oct 11, 2010 12:12 AM
dont look at past. Need to look what dravid can bring to score board at present. Dravid is gone and he is selfish guy. He need to be pushed out of team and bring people like Tiwary, dawan, Badhri etc...

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Rajan S
Re: Re: Re: Re: time to say BYE by Dravid
by Rajan S on Oct 11, 2010 12:26 AM
If we look at the present, then how can somebody like bhajji play in the Indian ODI team? If there is a rule, it should be universal for everybody. Bhajji has been a non-performer in ODI's for india, for many years now.

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Rajan S
Re: Re: Re: Re: time to say BYE by Dravid
by Rajan S on Oct 11, 2010 12:31 AM
If u say that dravid is a selfish guy, then am sure on one thing. He will only be ranked 2nd on that in the indian team

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Indian Dreamer
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: time to say BYE by Dravid
by Indian Dreamer on Oct 11, 2010 09:29 AM
If you have observed the way Dravid bats (Laxman too, to some extent), you will know what selfishness means in cricket. They defend the first four, or maybe even five balls of an over and tap the ball and calls the partner at the other end for a single, to keep strike! Stroke players like Sehwag and Gambhir need to constantly be on strike, and this strategy of Mr Dravid upsets the rhythm of these batsmen, and being an intelligent cricketer, Mr Dravid knows about that very well! Tell me, is he not selfish?

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Sameer
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: time to say BYE by Dravid
by Sameer on Oct 11, 2010 12:59 AM
Rajan , who is number 1 in the selfish chart ?

JK so dravid getting sub-optimal score = him being selfish ?

Wow, do you tards even utilize 1% of your brain before you brey like donkeys ?

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shanavas mohammed
Re: Re: Re: time to say BYE by Dravid
by shanavas mohammed on Oct 11, 2010 12:19 AM
entammo dravidum laxmanum vannappol raaayyannan njayam paranju thudangi...hmmm...asukam pidi kitty mone

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Rajan S
Re: Re: Re: Re: time to say BYE by Dravid
by Rajan S on Oct 11, 2010 12:24 AM
thanks sm

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sumanth tulupule
Re: time to say BYE by Dravid
by sumanth tulupule on Oct 11, 2010 11:03 AM
Dravid, a selfish guy certainly I see an IQ drop in the peeps posting comments here.

Let me recount few of his innings where he played second fiddle ( I mean just a few. There are lots to select from !!)

1. second fiddle to Sourav on his debut
2. second fiddle to Sourav in WC 99 against srilanka when he scored 183
3. 2 centuries in Hamilton to save match.
4. second fiddle to Tendulkar against NZ when tendya scored 186
( This still remains highest partnership for any wicket in ODI's)
5. Second fiddle to Laxman 281 and 178 ( Kolkata and Melbourne).
6. 3 of sehwag's best have 200 partnerships with Dravid.( SRL/PAK/SA)

and these just a few which are at forefront of my mind. and there are innings wherein he lead the way
He also played WK role in ODI's when the team needed. He batted in any position team needed.
and now that his form is a bit off people start commenting on his work ethics which is disgusting.
Form is temporary but class is permanent.
There is a reason people call him the WALL. you can;t just come up by such names just like that.

I will end my rant here.


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sumanth tulupule
Re: time to say BYE by Dravid
by sumanth tulupule on Oct 11, 2010 11:03 AM
Dravid, a selfish guy certainly I see an IQ drop in the peeps posting comments here.

Let me recount few of his innings where he played second fiddle ( I mean just a few. There are lots to select from !!)

1. second fiddle to Sourav on his debut
2. second fiddle to Sourav in WC 99 against srilanka when he scored 183
3. 2 centuries in Hamilton to save match.
4. second fiddle to Tendulkar against NZ when tendya scored 186
( This still remains highest partnership for any wicket in ODI's)
5. Second fiddle to Laxman 281 and 178 ( Kolkata and Melbourne).
6. 3 of sehwag's best have 200 partnerships with Dravid.( SRL/PAK/SA)

and these just a few which are at forefront of my mind. and there are innings wherein he lead the way
He also played WK role in ODI's when the team needed. He batted in any position team needed.
and now that his form is a bit off people start commenting on his work ethics which is disgusting.
Form is temporary but class is permanent.
There is a reason people call him the WALL. you can;t just come up by such names just like that.

I will end my rant here.


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Indian Dreamer
Re: time to say BYE by Dravid
by Indian Dreamer on Oct 11, 2010 09:22 AM
Probably he is being given chances to achieve the landmark of 200 catches in tests!!!!!!??????

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sumanth tulupule
Re: Re: time to say BYE by Dravid
by sumanth tulupule on Oct 11, 2010 10:54 AM
Dravid, A selfish guy... anything but that!!! . I agree he is going through a lean patch now but, just to put matters into perspective, I will recount here few of his innings...

Played second fiddle to
a. Ganguly in England in debut
b. when ganguly scored 183 against srilanka in WC - 99
c. scored 2 centuries in nz in 98-99 in a single test.
d. Tendulkar, 186 against NZ, which remains highest partnership for any wkt. in ODI's (331)
e. Laxman - 281 Kolkata
f. Laxman - Melbourne when aussie scored 400 on first day of a test
g. Twice involved in a 200 rin partnership with Sehwag.
Well these are the ones which are at forefront in my mind.

So, check your numbers before commenting.
Onemore thing, Form is temporary, Class is permanent.
In fact, he is ideal second fiddle in ANY conditions, a trustable partner to hold other end.

Look at each and every MAJOR/ Game changing inning played by an indian player and he wold have Dravid at other end to support him.
Nothing more needs to be said.

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Rajan S
Re: Re: Re: time to say BYE by Dravid
by Rajan S on Oct 13, 2010 09:51 PM
Exactly. Dravid has been a comparative and committed cricketer for india since he has come in. He may be going thru a lean patch, but nobody could doubt his attitude. He along with laxman has played so many match winnings innings in the last decade starting from that famous kolkata test against aussies in 2001.

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Aditya
No Laxman No Win
by Aditya on Oct 10, 2010 11:35 PM  | Hide replies

India will lose this match because Laxman is not playing.

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Rajan S
Re: No Laxman No Win
by Rajan S on Oct 11, 2010 12:01 AM
The role played in the middle order by laxman over the years makes us fear that, such a possibility cannot be ruled out.

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shanavas mohammed
Re: Re: No Laxman No Win
by shanavas mohammed on Oct 11, 2010 12:22 AM
hehe....nammalithethra kandatha raaaaya...

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jimmy joseph
Hope Tomo 'Politician Rahul'
by jimmy joseph on Oct 10, 2010 11:17 PM

Throw out this MOST shameful BSY govt filled with 'Tantra, mantra, evil magic....' so that ONLY selective people develop, selective region,.... the root cause for 'FLOODS' in North Karnataka, Tiger deaths in bangalore park, ....... is ALL of this evil influence - the 'EVIL' force is even trying to stop 'VOTING' the rights of 'Dissidents' MLA s using 'innocent influenced by negative force Speaker' Hope 'the chief care taker of any state mean GOVERNOR' handle his command firm.

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pravin sarode
Like god Hanuman there must be some way to remind Rahul who he is
by pravin sarode on Oct 10, 2010 10:02 PM  | Hide replies

Rahul Dravid is the only other Indian to be the top scorer (first one is Sachin Tendulkar - twice - 1996, 2003) in a World Cup. He amassed 461 runs in the 1999 World Cup, the first World Cup he played.
Rahul Dravid led India to a historic Test series win, against the West Indies in their home soil in 2006. Since 1971, India had never won a Test series in the West Indies. This is also their first prominent series win outside the Indian subcontinent (barring the win against Zimbabwe in 2005) since 1986.

1996 - Test debut at Lords, England after Sanjay Manjrekar was injured and Navjot Singh Sidhu flew back home after a fracas with captain Azharuddin. Makes 95.
1999 - Hundred in both innings (190,103) against New Zealand in Hamilton.
2006 - Contributed in a remarkable 410 runs partnership with Sehwag at Multan.
1998: Arjuna award
1999: Ceat Cricketer of the 1999 World Cup
2000: Wisden Cricketer of the Year 2000[45]
2004: Sir Garfield Sobers Trophy Winner (Awarded for ICC Player of the Year)[46]
2004: Padma Shri[47]
2004: ICC Test Player of The Year[46], MTV Youth Icon of the Year for 2004
2006: Captain of the ICC's Test Team
so why not open innings by rahul dravid instead of experiments so i pray god hanuman to give power to Dravid Rahul to under stand his skills as Hanuman forgot that he can fly indian ocean to lanka to search sita in poem Ramayan. Rahul will 100 percent do mirracle in seconds innings just as his south indian counter part VVSLAXMAN281


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Aditya
Re: Like god Hanuman there must be some way to remind Rahul who h
by Aditya on Oct 10, 2010 11:37 PM
U hav rightly pointed out that Rahul Dravid has not played well since 2006. 4 yrs Rahul has become a liability for the team.

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Sameer
Re: Re: Like god Hanuman there must be some way to remind Rahul w
by Sameer on Oct 11, 2010 01:01 AM
and who in your opinion is good enough to be the "wall" ?

I am all ears !

Do you mean the loser team that went 100 all out in Sri Lanka multiple times

Or the losers that lost to zimbabwe

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Story editor
Re: Like god Hanuman there must be some way to remind Rahul who h
by Story editor on Oct 10, 2010 11:22 PM
South Indian counterpart? When will India get rid of her regional sick people?

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Rajan S
Re: Re: Like god Hanuman there must be some way to remind Rahul w
by Rajan S on Oct 11, 2010 12:09 AM
Pls don't bring regionalism into it

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Rajan S
India's performance criterias
by Rajan S on Oct 10, 2010 09:56 PM

No other side in the world, would stick on with the same players, if they fail in an event like a world cup. But in india, the standards are different.
The nucleus of the side is still the same, even after the debacle of the 2007 WC. Bhajji is a prime example for that. Lost count of the years, in which bhajji has been a non performer for us, particularly in ODI cricket. Another world is approaching, with him leading the spin attac

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Rajan S
Sreesanth's wicket taking skills
by Rajan S on Oct 10, 2010 09:21 PM  | Hide replies

This is a comment which i had posted yesterday. But after today's performance, i thought it has become more relevant.
Sreesanth doesn't have the wicket taking abilities, especially in tests. If u watch,through out his test career, there are only very few matches that he has taken 2 or 3 wickets or more in his career. One SA series played in SA and another home series against the lankans played last year are the only highlights of his career
Though he always delivers the bowl with seam upright and bowls at good speeds and have the ability to swing the ball, especially outswingers, it seems that's not enough to earn him wickets. It could be the consistency issue as he always sprays the ball often even in test matches

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Murali Krishnan
Re: Sreesanth's wicket taking skills
by Murali Krishnan on Oct 10, 2010 09:33 PM
Yes Absolutely, He should know the art of taking wickets. Look at Zaheer, even though he is conceeding more runs than any other bowler, at the end of the day, he take some wickets,which keeps him in the side.
May be sreesanth should change the action and should learn to bowl wicket to wicket, then only he can bowl a good over with any no ball and wide, hope this series will be his last. Useless guy, only speaks a lot and does nothing (not even little)

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veerapuram dharan
Re: Sreesanth's wicket taking skills
by veerapuram dharan on Oct 10, 2010 09:36 PM
sreesanth is praised by none other than allan donald during his stint with warwickshire..hes definitely a long term asset...


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Rajan S
Re: Re: Sreesanth's wicket taking skills
by Rajan S on Oct 10, 2010 09:46 PM
yes, i too heard that comment. But as i said he has lots of pluses. But what matters is wickets
There is no role for emotions in test cricket

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karthik
Re: Sreesanth's wicket taking skills
by karthik on Oct 10, 2010 09:34 PM
Munaf patel i feel is more consistent bowler but is a underrated bowler. whr r d likes of RPsingh who won T20 world cup for india wid his bowling. India surely misses srinath and kumble. no replacements yet for them even after srinath retired 7 yrs ago. No killer bowler for India..

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Rajan S
Re: Re: Sreesanth's wicket taking skills
by Rajan S on Oct 10, 2010 09:49 PM
For me an inform ishant is a much better bet. But we need atleast three fast bowlers while going abroad.
When saurav became the captain, the probs were even worse. But it's just admirable that he changed it around and brought players like zaheer, nehra etc into the indian team.
Hats off to him. We miss him big time

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Venkat Bhat
Re: Re: Sreesanth's wicket taking skills
by Venkat Bhat on Oct 10, 2010 09:42 PM
well, India surely misses Kapil Dev, Manoj Prabhakar, Hirwani, Chandrasekhar. On Serious note, India does have lot of bowlers with good potential, but then our selectors are falling back on the same set of bowlers, who either had set bad examples with their behavior or not able to perform consistently.

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Rajan S
Re: Re: Re: Sreesanth's wicket taking skills
by Rajan S on Oct 10, 2010 09:54 PM
Yes no other side in the world, would stick on with players, if they fails in an event like world cup. But in india, the standards are different.
The nucleus of the side is still the same, even after the debacle in the 2007 WC. Bhajji is a prime example for that. Lost count of the years, in which bhajji has been a non performer, particularly in ODI cricket. Another world is approaching, with him leading the spin attack

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zakzak
BCCI IS ROCKING AND DOING ITS BEST to remove some ugly Bollwood f
by zakzak on Oct 10, 2010 08:45 PM

BCCI IS ROCKING AND DOING ITS BEST to remove some ugly Bollwood from the game. Anyway it will be good for the game anyway. Otherwise it will be sports & Prostitution instead of sports and business. While others have invested money to buy the team but Preety and Shilpa have invested only thier body.


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sunil k
these kind of pitches not good for test cricket....
by sunil k on Oct 10, 2010 08:43 PM

by the name of "home advantage".....team india is preparing substandard pitches in test centers....
we watched one of the best competitive test match at mohali due to better pitch with better pace and bounce....now look at bangalore pitch..!!!! second day over....slow and low....allready deteriorating..!!!! an underprepared pitch!!!! this pitch wont last for 5 days..!!!!
how can u expect quality competitive test match on these kind of pitches..????
how do u develop quality test players on this kind of pitches...???
adjacent pitches have pace and bounce....but team india never willing to play on those pitches..!!! strict instruction to curator..!!! never produce a "true test pitch..!!!!
gr8 BCCI...team india,...!!!

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Ansar Ali
Looks like no match tomorrow....Rain intervenes...
by Ansar Ali on Oct 10, 2010 08:43 PM

It is raining cats and dogs now in Bangalore.Looks like it will play spoilsport tomorrow..Even if it stops raining the ground conditions will be very bad..

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