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vinay
pitches dull
by vinay on Jul 31, 2010 03:52 PM  | Hide replies

dull pitches r reasons for lack of interest in test matches. at the same time, there r no quality bolrs around the world who vl earn wkt rather than getting gifts from batsman's follies.

now after murli n injured malinga, their attack looks oridnary.

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cool dude
Re: pitches dull
by cool dude on Jul 31, 2010 07:23 PM
hello

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Vaibhav Sihorkar
Both teams have ordinary bowling attack now
by Vaibhav Sihorkar on Jul 31, 2010 03:11 PM  | Hide replies

It is no doubt that the pitch was non-responsive but it was not a dead pitch.

The fact of the amtter is Srilanka attack is as poor as India's post Murali-Mallinga. India is fortunate to be world number one in test as they have played most of their matches in last 3-4 years at either home or in sub-continent or with poorly performing countries.

Their bowling attack and their much HYPED world number one tag will get exposed when they will play a FULL strnegth quality team like SA, Australia or England.

The pitch surely has to take some blame but for sure, not all. Both India and Srilanak have poor bolwers who do not know where to pitch the ball and how to be patinet in test crciket to bowl to that corridor of uncertainity.

Can you expect a Macgrath, an Akram, A Waqar, a Hadlee, A Kapil, A Botham, A Zaheer (when fit), A Warne, A Saqlain, A Kumble, and even a Mohammad Amir (new sensation) go wicketless on any pitch in 5 days.

All the big ones like a BHAJJI or a super flop ISHANT, or Fernandos are average bowlers as on given day.

The test cricket is loosing shine not soleyl due to pitches, but due to lack of quality BOWLERS.

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Raju
Re: Both teams have ordinary bowling attack now
by Raju on Jul 31, 2010 03:30 PM
Ishant Sharma has definitely lost his rhythm and confidence. I'm betting it has a lot to do with playing in IPL where any bowler gets smashed all over the park.
It's important that he goes back to first class cricket and get his line and length right.
Though Mithun has no wickets to show, I feel he is a good prospect.
Harbhajan has been a disappointment but he never did well against sub continent teams.
Also I disagree that India doesnt deserve No.1 rank. They played pretty much everywhere (West Indies, England, New Zealand, Pakistan) and won. They should also have won technically in Australia if it wasnt for the Sydney test.
It's only the hypocritical Indians who deny this. They wouldnt be saying this if Australia or South Africa were No.1

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vinay
Re: Re: Both teams have ordinary bowling attack now
by vinay on Jul 31, 2010 04:00 PM
true. but charm of ausis or sa team is of their bowling. a macgrath or warne, wud b much better sight to watch.
v had good bolrs earlier in kapil, then srinath, but then no good reliable ones not even zaheer.

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Sports Lover
Re: Re: Re: Both teams have ordinary bowling attack now
by Sports Lover on Jul 31, 2010 04:12 PM
Let these ordinary medium pacers go to South Africa and they'll become spitting cobras. On these pitches even those south african or australian bowlers will struggle

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vinay
Re: Both teams have ordinary bowling attack now
by vinay on Jul 31, 2010 03:55 PM
agreed with u vaibhav.

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Aditya
Re: Both teams have ordinary bowling attack now
by Aditya on Jul 31, 2010 04:18 PM
All the above players have played many series in which they flopped.
It is not quality bowlers but quality picthes that are the problem. By the way 75% of the matches get results today compared to some 45% in the previous decades. So more wickets actually are falling...

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LG
Winning knocks-highly misunderstood concept
by LG on Jul 31, 2010 02:00 PM  | Hide replies

Winning knocks are not played but a knock of 100 or 200 is converted into winning knock by the bowlers you have in the team.

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Sameer Bhagwat
Re: Winning knocks-highly misunderstood concept
by Sameer Bhagwat on Jul 31, 2010 02:09 PM
yeah yeah, go on pampering your flat-track bullies.

Keep asking every white man who comes to India, "Who is the best batsman in the world?" and hope he will answer "Sachin Tendulkar".

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LG
Re: Re: Winning knocks-highly misunderstood concept
by LG on Jul 31, 2010 03:04 PM
It is not about white or black or man of any color, it is about how much his knowledge and experience are of importance to cricket fans.

Do you mean they should ask a worthless creature like you to get the right answer?

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LG
Re: Re: Winning knocks-highly misunderstood concept
by LG on Jul 31, 2010 02:57 PM
Do you understand the meaning of flat-track bullies or are just brainwashed by some people because you lack a brain to make your own opinion.

Look at the stats and draw your own conclusions using brain, if you have got one....

Sachin Tendulkar
ASIA: 59.43
Outside ASIA:51.54
Difference: 7.89


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LG
@Sameer Bhagwat,
by LG on Jul 31, 2010 12:16 PM  | Hide replies

If you have some brain to understand, have look at averages in Asia, Outside Asia and the difference of following Asian Batsmen

Sachin Tendulkar
ASIA: 59.43
Outside ASIA:51.54
Difference: 7.89

Veru
ASIA: 61.51
Outside ASIA: 41.42
Difference: 20.09

Mahela
ASIA: 60.99
Outside ASIA: 38.33
Difference: 22.66

Well, Sachin has highest probability of making 50 Test as well as ODI centuries.

Unfortunately, it may not be good for your health--because by that time you might be suffering from stomach ulcer or cancer as result of worrying too much.


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LG
Re: @Sameer Bhagwat,
by LG on Jul 31, 2010 12:46 PM
Above stats are related to test only.

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S Shrikanth
Re: @Sameer Bhagwat,
by S Shrikanth on Jul 31, 2010 12:31 PM
Great data.

can you also work out Tendulkar's performance in competitive cricket, ie major tournaments involving more than 3 teams like World cup, ICC Champions trophy etc.

I think he has been a consistent failure in major tournaments since 2003 WC.

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Sudesh Banare
Re: Re: @Sameer Bhagwat,
by Sudesh Banare on Jul 31, 2010 01:19 PM
Sachin Tendulkar is rising to his special best since Jan 2008 when he was pivotal in winning the triseries in Aus against Aus. Both the finals India won coz of him. Since than he has been big success in crucial and final matches. Its been a delight to watch him since than as now he is prooven matchwinner....

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LG
Re: Re: Re: @Sameer Bhagwat,
by LG on Jul 31, 2010 01:32 PM

Sudesh Banare,

Do not spoon-feed these brainless creatures, let them work hard to find what they want. Once they have tasted what success is, they will understand contribution Sachin and values he adds.

Any amount of explanation is no good for pathetic souls like S Shrikanth, who loiter here with many different IDs to demean Sachin.

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Sports Lover
Re: Re: Re: Re: @Sameer Bhagwat,
by Sports Lover on Jul 31, 2010 04:21 PM
Why are you hell bent on proving that sachin is greatest. Every person who has followed cricket for last 20 years will surely know that. No point in arguing with anyone about this fact.

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Abhishek Sadhwani
Re: Re: @Sameer Bhagwat,
by Abhishek Sadhwani on Jul 31, 2010 02:43 PM
fantastic mr shrikant u are not an indian i am just giving 1 example VB sereis 2008 1st final sachin had score century and second final he had score 90 in australia vs australia and recently he had score 200 against SA to win the sereies so i beleive u should shft to pakistan or afghanistan that will be the best for you

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LG
Re: Re: @Sameer Bhagwat,
by LG on Jul 31, 2010 12:43 PM
S Shrikanth

Go and do it cricinfo, and find them yourself.

Do not be lazy and believe in hard and success will be yours

Then, you won't have to hate successful people like Sachin.

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LG
Re: Re: Re: @Sameer Bhagwat,
by LG on Jul 31, 2010 12:44 PM
typo: Go to cricinfo...

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ainsley pereira
were is agarkar
by ainsley pereira on Jul 31, 2010 11:25 AM  | Hide replies

if indian team is lacking experience in srilanka then y dont they include Ajit Agarkar in one day squad. just bcause he is mumbaikar?

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vinay
Re: were is agarkar
by vinay on Jul 31, 2010 04:03 PM
coz he gives lots of runs inspite of more than 10 years experience.

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Sameer Bhagwat
oh no, we want more batting paradises like this
by Sameer Bhagwat on Jul 31, 2010 10:08 AM  | Hide replies

otherwise, how will our dead pitches Bradmans boost their test average?

Shouldn't Sachin get to 50 test hundresds??

And sponsors' darling Yuvy is feeling left out...he is sad that he missed scoring some easy runs. He is licking his chops and waiting for the next pitch to be of the same lifeless variety.

So, never mind the bowlers, Dhoni. Don't pretend that you feel for them. If you really cared about their workload, you would have picked 5 bowlers. Instead you prefer to protect your (already pampered) batsmen.

Paper tigers...

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LG
Re: oh no, we want more batting paradises like this
by LG on Jul 31, 2010 12:08 PM
Sameer Bhagwat,

If you have some brain to understand, have look it following stats

Ave.(Asia) Ave(outside Asia) Diff
Sachin 59.43 51.54 7.89
Veru 61.51 41.42 20.09
Mahela 60.99 38.33 22.66

Well, Sachin is highest probability of make 50 Test as well as ODI centuries.

Unfortunately, it may not be good for health--by that time you might be suffering from stomach ulcer or cancer.


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Nariyal Anna
Re: oh no, we want more batting paradises like this
by Nariyal Anna on Jul 31, 2010 10:15 AM
go and check the stats of sachin centuries on hard wickets....

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Sunil Vaidya
Re: Re: oh no, we want more batting paradises like this
by Sunil Vaidya on Jul 31, 2010 10:42 AM
anna, you are the one that needs to do the checking.

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Ravindra Joshi
Top 25 Test team of India
by Ravindra Joshi on Jul 31, 2010 09:00 AM  | Hide replies

TOP 25 IN INDIAN TEST TEAM

1 Sunil Gavaskar      (Captain)
2 Veerendra Sehwag
3 Rahul Dravid
4 Sachin Tendulkar
5 M.Azaruddin
6 Kapildev Nikhanj
7 M.S.Dhoni      (W.K)
8 Javagal Srinath
9 Anil Kumble
10. EAS Prasanna
11. Chandrashekar
12. G.R.Vishwanath
13. S.C.Ganguly            (W.C)
14. Harbhajan Singh
15. Zaheerkhan
16. Vengsarkar
17. VVS Laxman
18. Bishansing Bedi
19. Mohindar Amarnath
20. Venkatraghavan
21. S.M.H Keermani (W.K)
22. Gautam Gambhir
23. K Srikkanth
24. Lala Amarnath
25. Subhash Gupte

And in the above the top 11 should definitely play the test.

Any Comments ??????????


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JAGTAR SINGH
Re: Top 25 Test team of India
by JAGTAR SINGH on Jul 31, 2010 12:06 PM
why not included Navjot singh sidhu, s Das, D. Vensarkar etc

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Nariyal Anna
Re: Top 25 Test team of India
by Nariyal Anna on Jul 31, 2010 10:15 AM
kaptain should be kapil....not sunil

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shakti kapooor
Re: Re: Top 25 Test team of India
by shakti kapooor on Jul 31, 2010 10:46 AM
right
nariyal anna

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pras
Re: Re: Re: Top 25 Test team of India
by pras on Jul 31, 2010 11:40 AM
why play kumble and chandrasekhar. both are similar sort of bowlers. I will take Subhash Gupte who was the greatest legspinner ever 9accord to sir gary sobers).

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Ravindra Joshi
Re: Re: Re: Re: Top 25 Test team of India
by Ravindra Joshi on Jul 31, 2010 11:48 AM
you are choosing again a same sort of bowler(Subhash Gupte) in place of chandra/kumble. And in my views Chandra is very much different from Kumble. Chandra is a classic legspinner with googli as a weapon and Kumble is more dependent on his flippers.

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manoj bhardwaj
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Top 25 Test team of India
by manoj bhardwaj on Jul 31, 2010 01:19 PM
y u guys are fighting over nothing ,these bowlers will play no more for india now in future i hope so.

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