INDIA:The greatest positive was consistency of Virat Kohli & Gambhir with batting.Next it was return of Zaheer ‘s old form seen in England last. However the sudden ‘reverse swing’ seen of him on the last day is simply unbelievable and it remains to be seen if he can do that consistently. Return to form of Ishant is also heartening and there is no reason why he should not get back his 100% level in the SA series. Batting appears to be dependent on Sachin to a great extent and in case Sehwag & Gambhir fail to fire , then the chances of SA winning the series are more. Spin deptt. also looks wobbly thanks to Dhoni’s indiscretions. For SA series they may have to play two spinners and five bowlers to improve the chances of restricting SA total because Indian middle order looks a bit weakened. Captaincy? One picture equals thousand words, right ? We all saw that LIVE picture on Neo sports how the Team recd. Idea Trophy.
B'DESH: Given their talent, Shakibulhassan & co deserve to occupy at least the 5th position after I,SA,A&P.Then why are they at the bottom ? After the shameful picture of the BBoard/Boss and the captain was beamed all across the world it seems the b/board's mismanagement could be one of the main reason. Individually the players are simply brilliant starting from SH,TI,M'Tulla,Rahim..... only Ashraful seems to be passing through a lean patch and may be they should look for suitable replacement. In bowling they are almost at par with India except for the experience of Zaheer.All in all, if properly harnessed they have the potential to overtake England & WI in the next few years. In fact they have very good chance of making it to the league stage in the T20 WC in March and once there, they can even make it to the last four also.Our best wishes.
These are some facts for those who say Sachin doesn't performe in crucial or you can say in final matches:
He has hit 6 centuries in final matches and all 6 centuris have won matches/series for India. ; India have won 16 finals and Sachin has failed just twice in these. ; Apart from making runs he has taken 17 wickets in these (39 finals) &nbs p; He has made total 1833 runs in 38 innings at an avg of 55.54 with a strike rate of 87.41 He has won 9 MOM's & 8 MOS's. ; His over all avg in wining matches is 57.24 with a strike rate of 90 &nb sp; His avg in wining matches (while chasing a target) is 56.68 with a strike rate of 90 (14 centuries, 27 fifties) &nb sp; His avg in wining matches (while setting a target) is 57.80 with a strike rate of 90 (18 centuries, 29 fifties) &nb sp; India have never managed to win a single tournament without Sachin's presence. &n bsp;
Re: Sachin in ODI tournament final matches!
by naveen dhanerwal on Jan 29, 2010 01:10 PM
So, how can one say he doesn't performe in crucial matches when India couldn't win a single odi tournament without him? They (Sachin haters) say rest all do well in crucial matches, likes ganguly, Sehwag (avg 30 in final matches, just 3 fifties), Dravid, yuvi and even Dhoni do well in final matches but then why didn't they win a single ODI tournament for India even after playing 150 matches?
Re: Re: Sachin in ODI tournament final matches!
by rocky on Jan 29, 2010 07:10 PM
"Dravid, yuvi and even Dhoni do well in final matches but then why didn't they win a single ODI tournament for India even after playing 150 matches"
The above sentence of urs says it all. No need explaining it to u ;)
Re: Sachin in ODI tournament final matches!
by rocky on Jan 29, 2010 07:22 PM
It wud b great if u cud get similar stats when he used to bat lower down the order. The result of a match depends upon how well the first 3 palyers perform. With Sachin opening the innings he gets the maximum oppurtunity to score runs. It wud b nice if u good get similar stats for Ganguly who used to open with Sachin and u wud c the difference wud not b much. Wud also like to know how has he fared in finals whihc India has lost.
also give details of the 16 finals in which he has performed :)
come up with all these stats and then we can continue with our discussion.
These are some facts for those who say Sachin doesn't performe in crucial or you can say in final matches:
He has hit 6 centuries in final matches and all 6 centuris have won matches/series for India. ; India have won 16 finals and Sachin has failed just twice in these. ; Apart from making runs he has taken 17 wickets in these (39 finals) &nbs p; He has made total 1833 runs in 38 innings at an avg of 55.54 with a strike rate of 87.41 He has won 9 MOM's & 8 MOS's. ; His over all avg in wining matches is 57.24 with a strike rate of 90 &nb sp; His avg in wining matches (while chasing a target) is 56.68 with a strike rate of 90 (14 centuries, 27 fifties) &nb sp; His avg in wining matches (while setting a target) is 57.80 with a strike rate of 90 (18 centuries, 29 fifties) &nb sp; India have never managed to win a single tournament without Sachin's presence. &n bsp;
Re: Sachin in ODI tournament final matches!
by rocky on Jan 29, 2010 07:11 PM
India won hte world cup in 1983 - a tournament without Sachin's presence.
Re: Re: Sachin in ODI tournament final matches!
by rocky on Jan 29, 2010 07:16 PM
...and from the time he has started palying, its rare that he not part of the team.
Its the right time,when sachin should start thinking about retirement.. Once upon a time, people including me, got to switched off their TV sets ones Sachin got out.. but over the years circumstances have changed now, at least for ODI, & T20 India's have more exciting players then him to be watch out for and he is blocking the way for youngsters... Still i feel Sachin should only play in Test and must should hang his boot for ODI and its better to not talk about T20 cuz he can't play ...
And Guys Plz don't talk about form..if so is the case then i think Hayden and Adam Gilchrist were as good as in their peak at the time of their retirement and even today witness is their form in last 2 IPL...
Re: Sachin should be retire from ODI...
by gaurdain on Jan 29, 2010 11:30 AM
dont worry he will be as gud form as he was at peak when he calls it a day!!!!!!!!dont talk about blocking youngsters dude....no one can replace a sachin!!!!!!haddo and gilli cld be,sachin cant....y not just enjoy till he is scoring runs.. 4 ur kind information we still walk out for work when he gets out so dont be selfish ...we to exist
Re: Sachin should be retire from ODI...
by Prasenjit Das on Jan 29, 2010 11:37 AM
He is currently the highest ranekd Indian player after Dhoni In the ICC rankings..All the youngsters come behind him in the rankings..Why should he retire??
Let the youngesters prove that they are better than him then he 'll retire..
Re: Re: Sachin should be retire from ODI...
by arvi unite on Jan 29, 2010 11:42 AM
So how will youngster prove id they can't get a chance? and remember i am talking about ODI .? How many years more he wants to play...?
Re: Re: Re: Sachin should be retire from ODI...
by gaurdain on Jan 29, 2010 11:50 AM
already u have few apots for grab...rohit didnt perform...raina is been getting chances...guti & virat has cemented place....how many youngsters u want to play in team........
Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin should be retire from ODI...
by arvi unite on Jan 29, 2010 12:03 PM
That's what u accepted, Raina, Gauti, Virat is playing and still we have some good players to be waiting ..but only when they will get their chances...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin should be retire from ODI...
by arvi unite on Jan 29, 2010 12:06 PM
If he can't play continuously, he should opt for retirement. Since last few seasons.. he almost opted for Rest in every alternate series..his body is not supporting him...what is it? don't be just blind followers .?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin should be retire from ODI...
by rajat rawat on Jan 29, 2010 12:10 PM
He is resting to give chance to youngsters only and thats what u want. He is still among the fittest in the team.
Its the right time,when sachin should start thinking about retirement.. Once upon a time, people including me, got to switched off their TV sets ones Sachin got out.. but over the years circumstances have changed now, at least for ODI, & T20 India's have more exciting players then him to be watch out for and he is blocking the way for youngsters... Still i feel Sachin should only play in Test and must should hang his boot for ODI and its better to not talk about T20 cuz he can't play ...
And Guys Plz don't talk about form..if so is the case then i think Hayden and Adam Gilchrist were as good as in their peak at the time of their retirement and even today witness is their form in last 2 IPL...
I think Saha is a worthless selection in test team. He has made no impression in T20, Ranajis & other matches. If you had to have a sub to Dhoni Karthik or Parthiv Patel could have been better options. I still wonder to see Harbhajansingh in the squad. He has been a complete failure on the ground at home and away in the past few seasons. He deserves to be rested for a long period of time.
I think Saha is a worthless selection in test team. He has made no impression in T20, Ranajis & other matches. If you had to have a sub to Dhoni Karthik or Parthiv Patel could have been better options. I still wonder to see Harbhajansingh in the squad. He has been a complete failure on the ground at home and away in the past few seasons. He deserves to be rested for a long period of time.
