Drugs consumption/fanatic approach/internal politics/egoism destroyed the Pak cricket. If they Yousuf Yohanna could not have been converted he would have been one of the good batsman in the world by this time. If Shoaib Akthar would have concentrated only on Cricket he would been no. 1 bowler in world. Pak produce great cricketer like Saeed Anwar/Inzamam/Younus Khan/Mohd. Yusuf/Shahid Afridi/Shoaib Malili/ isbah etc. but everybody is in some problem & they can not concentrate on cricket. Their internal situation of country wont allow them to play freely either in their home country or away from the country & it may be the down fall of Pakistan Cricket.
Re: Pakistan
by sweetyicecream on Jan 19, 2010 09:31 PM
From the clippings vailable on the net it is very obvious the cash starved team played to lose and gift their wickets in a pretty disguised manner.It is all there to see the way they played.I think each must contributed nicely to their Bankrupt PC Board
Re: Pakistan board is up for fixing matches
by Junior Don on Jan 18, 2010 05:42 PM
Mickey has to just shout terrorism and everything is fixed, and tour is allowed.
Re: Pakistan board is up for fixing matches
by Against Pseudos on Jan 18, 2010 06:47 PM
JD:
Maybe. But the question is - can he beat our CEO Mr. Dhoni? The Chief Excuse Officer ensures that we manage to limp to the #1 test side, never mind we couldn't hold on to the #1 ODI spot for more than 23 hours. :)
Re: Re: Pakistan board is up for fixing matches
by sanath on Jan 18, 2010 07:26 PM
Hi AP, we meet again...but here I would beg to differ...its best to keep our side out of the topic - all said and done, it is our national side...at least it goes by that name !!!
Re: Re: Re: Pakistan board is up for fixing matches
by Against Pseudos on Jan 19, 2010 05:21 AM
Sanath:
Okie, fair enough... :)
So let's make a list of non-Indian match fixers of the decade.
Starting with Graeme Smith, Strauss, Sangakkara, Vettori, Ponting and last but not the least Chanderpaul. They all have put cricket to shame in a few years time, and it will be hard to recover from this position for a long long time... :)
Pak cric is suffering due to lack money from their board and support from other boards...
Unlike India where our board have enough money to feed 100 crore population...and support of all the boards and ICC as we have the influence and money to keep officials quite wen something goes against us
Re: Pak cric is suffering due to lack
by Indian on Jan 18, 2010 05:26 PM
They are suffering because their country believes in destruction and terrorism.
Re: Pak cric is suffering due to lack
by Vishwanathan Anand on Jan 18, 2010 05:23 PM
if SL team is attacked by terrorists at say Delhi or Mumbai, even India will face similar sanctions like PAK. if they'd won the sydney test it would have been historic, further they wud've been in better frame of mind in the third test also.... boards are fo--olish on either sides, its abt performance....
Re: indian cric
by rishi on Jan 18, 2010 05:02 PM
Foolish of you to say that when Indian was the team responsible for the decline of OZies after the last tour down under get your stats right before commenting
pak cricket is suffering very much like their country .Internal politics & policies of both the country & cricket board is responsible for this & in the bargain we are loosing a defiant side which was always apleasure to watch inspite of them being our oponent . Look at India galloping away both economically & in cricket inspite of lot of drawbacks with in but we are a stable nation & not fundamentalists like them . I think the biggest mistake they made 60 yrs back was they declared pakistan a Islamic state unlike ours & our now in direstraits .Only God can save Pakistan & Pakistan Cricket or else they would all be finished fighting amongst themselves .
Any team confronting the ausies in australia face a daunting task and Pakistan is no exception. The only team which could the tame the lion in its den were the windies some 40 years ago and not any longer. If at all any time has come close to counter their aggression it is only India. Past record shows this. Even our defeats were of thin margin and ausies never beat us hollow.
Re: mighty ausies
by rishi on Jan 18, 2010 05:03 PM
Just check the results for the last tour of India... bad umpiring in Sydney and we won in perth so called fastest pitch on earth
Re: Re: mighty ausies
by Against Pseudos on Jan 18, 2010 06:49 PM
Rishi:
:) You can't even read Ananth's message, but you sure are replying away.... :)
BTW, bad umpiring is part and parcel of the game. Bucknor prevented us from winning a drawn test, but it was our sheer brilliance which enabled us to snatch defeat from the jaws of a certain draw. Who else heard of a rank part time spinner like Clarke claiming 3 (yes THREE) wickets in one over? :)
Re: Re: Re: mighty ausies
by sanath on Jan 18, 2010 07:30 PM
AP, even u can't deny that Oz were the only team till recently who used to rely on other factors (such as sledging, putting pressure on the umpires, false appealing etc.) to win the game, and then give the excuse that they play the game hard.
India, especially in that series where they were captained by a gentleman called Anil Kumble, did not rely on those, and yet after that hype about Perth, we cleaned them there.
And yes, we all remember that match where Clarke claimed 3 (yes THREE) wickets..and we all know how the umpiring and the spirit of the match was in that match, which forced EVEN Kumble to remark !
Re: Re: Re: Re: mighty ausies
by Against Pseudos on Jan 19, 2010 05:25 AM
Sanath:
The only suggestion I can make to you is to go on Youtube and search for a video "The Spirit of India".... :)
I know how the umpiring was in Sydney 2008, in case you noticed in my message, and my whole point was that it was our own sheer brilliance which enabled us to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. And if we MUST bring umpiring decisions into our discussions, then you must make suitable amendments to our Kolkata 2001 epoch-making victory too. :)
As for Kumble, his remarks were nothing short of frustration for having snatched defeats from the jaws of a 100% certain draw, and I don't blame him for that. :)
Re: Re: mighty ausies
by Rajendra Uparkar on Jan 18, 2010 04:02 PM
I agree with Ananth. In fact last two series that India played verses Australia in Australia were keenly fought. In 2003-04 series, after score-card of 1-1 after 3rd test, Australia just managed to save Sydney Test (after India had scored 705 in the 1st inning) thanks to fighting inning from Steve Waugh. Similarly in 2007-08, had it not been an extremely poor and pathetic umpring, India could have won the Sydney Test and then, the final verdict could have been 2-1 in India's favour.
Re: Re: mighty ausies
by Rajendra Uparkar on Jan 18, 2010 04:01 PM
I agree with Ananth. In fact last two series that India played verses Australia in Australia were keenly fought. In 2003-04 series, after score-card of 1-1 after 3rd test, Australia just managed to save Sydney Test (after India had scored 705 in the 1st inning) thanks to fighting inning from Steve Waugh. Similarly in 2007-08, had it not been an extremely poor and pathetic umpring, India could have won the Sydney Test and then, the final verdict could have been 2-1 in India's favour.
Re: Re: mighty ausies
by VittalKumar BS on Jan 18, 2010 04:30 PM
I agree with Chaturchuramoni Chatterjee. Even, South Africa have the capability to beat Australia (remember the match where Aus scored 434 and SA scored 438). Sadly, they continue to hold the "Chokers" tag).
Any team confronting the ausies in australia face a daunting task and Pakistan is no exception. The only team which could the tame the lion in its den were the windies some 40 years ago and not any longer. If at all any time has come close to counter their aggression it is only India. Past record shows this. Even our defeats were of thin margin and ausies never beat us hollow.
