People hated Aussies not because of their behaviour but their dominance . If sledging was because they were hated for , then it would be hypocritical to think that Indians , English , Pakis or for that matter others do no know how to sledge . In India , a 10 year old knows how to give a mouthful . So , this became a reason for loss , while the real reason was lack of ability to counter Aussie dominance
Re: Pretence!
by Against Psuedos on Dec 31, 2010 01:45 PM
Nobody hates them for their (old) dominance nor is it for their sledging.It's just that they were plain abrasive,disrespectful and uncouth with their behavior,which they also persistently carried even off the field.It partly has to go with their culture(or lack of it).And then when somebody gave it back(ex India in India,England in 2005) they cried like sissies.Ricky Ponting even complained about England's choice fo substitute fielders during the 2005 series.That's how they showed themselves to be sore losers and unsportsmanlike in their conduct.No wonder the whole cricketing world is rubbing it in now and paying them back in the same coin..and how it hurts now!!.It also didn't help that they tweaked and manipulated the laws of the game when they were on top and had a knack of gettign marginal decisions in their favor at critical situations in the game.Now the shoe is on the other foot.Deal with it,sissies.Nobody's afraid of you anymore.So stop babbling like a child who's candy has been taken away.
Re: Pretence!
by Ravi krishnan on Dec 31, 2010 03:03 PM
The Aussies are basically 'Stowaways' from england. They were basically criminals or of criminal origin who were dumped as far away as possible from the English shores. In effect, they are englishmen and their kith. This explains why they are always looking for trouble by Bad mouthing, uncouth behaviour, demeaning on other countries, disrespectful in the face of peace and happiness. It is said that when they run out of outsiders for a fight they fight amongst themselves like dogs.
Sadly, lot of comments contain anger, expletives, foul-language... The bottomline is, Ponting & team under him were always very arrogant. (What does McGrath has to say now about his pre-series prediction of 5-0 result in favour of Australia?). I am reminded of extremely arrogant & insulting comments by Ponting about New Zealand cricket at a post-match presentation ceremony some time back after Australia trounced them. Absolutely unbecoming of a true champion.
Re: Cricket - Australia & England
by Against Psuedos on Dec 31, 2010 01:25 PM
Some Australia groupies here confuse 'arrogance' with 'confidence'.They claim that the abrasive and plain rude behavior of the Aussies was 'supreme confidence'.What they fail to understand is that you can be plain ruthless on the field and still be well behaved.The all conquering team of Clive Lloyd was fearsome and menacing but they never cheated or indulged in abrasive behavior.Roger Federer was invincible and now so is Rafa Nadal(waay more dominant than even the Aussies at their peak) but they set examples with their behavior.Anyway,part of the reason the whole cricketing world is rejoicing the downfall of Australia and Ponting lies in their behavior while at the top.WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!GOOD RIDDANCE PONTING!!!
Re: Re: Cricket - Australia & England
by Palmas Palmas on Dec 31, 2010 01:51 PM
Very true. I remember in 1960s & 1970s, we used to support Australia when they were playing any team other than India's. I also recall the terrific respect & honour given to Frank Worrel & his team by even the Australian team as well as common Australian public after West Indies team's tour Down Under in 1962. Why sports can not be uplifting once again?
Re: Re: Cricket - Australia & England
by vikas bhardwaj on Dec 31, 2010 01:34 PM
I agree with you . People hated Aussies not because of their behaviour but their dominance . If sledging was because they were hated for , then it would be hypocritical to think that Indians , English , Pakis or for that matter others do no know how to sledge . In India , a 10 year old knows how to give a mouthful . So , this became a reason for loss , while the real reason was lack of ability to counter Aussie dominance
Re: Re: Re: Cricket - Australia & England
by bijay jain on Dec 31, 2010 02:23 PM
Why do u repeat urself each and every time without referring anything which is being discussed. Ur comments seem irrevelant
Re: Re: Cricket - Australia & England
by vikas bhardwaj on Dec 31, 2010 01:34 PM
I agree with you . People hated Aussies not because of their behaviour but their dominance . If sledging was because they were hated for , then it would be hypocritical to think that Indians , English , Pakis or for that matter others do no know how to sledge . In India , a 10 year old knows how to give a mouthful . So , this became a reason for loss , while the real reason was lack of ability to counter Aussie dominance
try to dictate terms....creating differences within the team....not working with "coach"...try to do a "ganguly" kind of thing within a team... working against coach...all these things were not acceptable for english board...they did a sensible thing.....kicked him out immediately out of captainship... now look at the performance of this "strauss" lead england team....true no.1 test cricket team in the world....purely on performance...that's captainship...
Re: Re: no...u r kicked out of captaincy....
by sunil k on Dec 31, 2010 02:37 PM
do u watch under what pitch conditions these test matches are being played...??? u call this AUS bowling attack "weak"....on that kind of surface..?? did india won a series against AUS in AUS...?? all wins are at home ...under prepared mud tracks".....dont u know this...??? do u know what sportive test pitch is...??how many sportive pitch victory india has recorded...???
Re: no...u r kicked out of captaincy....
by chirag foryou on Dec 31, 2010 12:23 PM
Sunil you looks like a slave of english people. How come your bosses are at No. 1 test team spot. Just winning against weak Aussies team ever ! ! ! ! It is my country INDIA is at No.1 test team in the world.
Re: Re: no...u r kicked out of captaincy....
by sunil k on Dec 31, 2010 12:32 PM
stupid idiot..!!!! watch world cricket....played on "sportive pitches" with pace bounce n swing.... not "flat pitch bullies" shows on substandard " mud tracks" of subcontinent dead and burried "bowlers grave yards"... have proper knowledge abt "test cricket".....pitch conditions, quality of opposition bowling....ENG is the only team which played out of their comfort zone ....played against "world class PAK pace attack on testing english pitch conditions...won the series, battled hard against SA under tough pitch conditions at home and abroad....level the series....they improved b'cause they never played on "mud tracks"..!!!! by the way on how many "spotive pitches" team india played over the past 2 years..??? can u remember...??? dont be a stupid idiot..!! watch world cricket...appreciate "true performers"....
Re: Re: Re: no...u r kicked out of captaincy....
by soutik das on Dec 31, 2010 01:23 PM
Is it like that when India plays the pitches are flat and when other teams play the pitch suddenly turns voracious? u guys just need some excuse . get a life dude... the best teams play well on all surfaces..be it bouncy or spinning.
Re: Re: Re: Re: no...u r kicked out of captaincy....
by sunil k on Dec 31, 2010 02:07 PM
u know what kind of pitches india played for the past 3 years ...?? know any knowledge abt "cricket pitch..??? do u watch ENG, AUS test cricket...???? kind of pitches they play...??? c'mon have proper knowledge abt the game....
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: no...u r kicked out of captaincy....
by sunil k on Dec 31, 2010 02:09 PM
f u dont know about sports "what the f**k" u r doing here..??? how can u call ur self an un biased sport enthusiast..??? what u know abt under prepared mud track and a sportive pitch...??? seems to me another "stupid idiot" who know nothing abt sports and performances...???
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: no...u r kicked out of captaincy....
by sunil k on Dec 31, 2010 02:03 PM
if u dont know about sports "what the f**k" u r doing here..??? how can u call ur self an un biased sport enthusiast..??? what u know abt under prepared mud track and a sportive pitch...??? seems to me another "stupid idiot" who know nothing abt sports and performances...???
Compare Pietersens actions with that of Ricky Ponting and you know why England are on top and the Aussies in the doldrums.Ricky is still hanging on like a handicapped soldier surrounded by the enemy.Cry me a river Ricky Ponting.Are you still wondering why nobody gives a damn about the copping you are recieving from the crowds,the opposition and your own media?Cos you forgot the adage 'Be good to people on your way up cos they are the same ppl you will meet on your way down'.You should have smelt the coffee when you needed Bucknor to help you draw two home series against India and then got walloped by India at home.But your arrogance went to your head and you carried on and on,heaping more defeats on your nation culminating in this disaster.3 Ashes lost,no wins against India in India...these are the legacies you will carry into retirement.And nobody cares!!
Re: Re: Ponting learn from Pietersen
by Against Psuedos on Dec 31, 2010 01:37 PM
Namesake-the point was that without Bucknor we would have had 2 wins in Oz.Not that all Australian wins are attributed to biased umpiring.In your overenthusiasm to defend a dying aura,you missed it again..but then what's new?Now wipe the drool off your keyboard and get a life.It's fun rubbing salt into your wounds(which you keep festering with your penchant to make a fool of yourself on the Rediff boards)
