australia want sachin to retire and ponting to have most runs record. sitting out of injury is just pretense, he will be back. they want sachin to announce retirement after world cup. then ponting can come back and play till he is 40. like border did to gavaskar. but they are fooling no one this time, sachin is not going anywhere, he will be here 2015 world cup. australia will reach last place ranking under ponting
Re: Re: australian conspiracy
by wizardo id on Dec 31, 2010 08:57 AM
given his lousy form, yes. but i do agree with cool dude that australians want all the rights to remain aloof - border was trying his best to beat gavaskar. we too did the same with kapil paaji.
One Zaheer gets injured and we have a bowling attack of under-puberty teams.
NO replacement for Kapil Dev, we look to find an all rounder in anyone who can throw a ball.
NO replacement for Kumble, ever since he retired Bhajji has only been good for slapping people.
NO replacement wicketkeeper batsman for DHONI. This is by far India's longest running shortcoming. No decent keeper who can bat just as good, or vice versa.
So dont even think for a second we will find replacements for Sachin, Dravid, Laxman or Sehwag.
Post World Cup 2011, our Aussie tragedy begins. It is for us to accept we will be a team minus legends.
Re: .
by wizardo id on Dec 31, 2010 08:58 AM
no its not as bad as it sounds. we have youngsters like kohli filling in nicely, the character of the team changes for sure. but we just need the idiots at bcci to work normally. they are too embroiled in politics
Re: Wow..
by Kaka on Dec 30, 2010 08:57 PM
Warnie is a shrewd cricket brain and he knows what he is talking. HE talks sense and his views always is correct and to the point, never an exaggeration.
That is why with him, McGrath, Gilly, etc, Australia was such a top team for a decade. They are all match winners and now they are all gone.When Ponting too quits, it will add further to Aussies woes.
Warne gets it right whe he pin points the weakness in the Aussie side today. They are short of openers. Watson and Katich are both basically middle order batsmen. That in itself isn't a bad thing ..but after Katich got injured they haven't found anyone to take his place. The lack a spinner. It can't be easy to replace a Shane Warne, but the guys who have come after him have just not been of test class. And they do not have a leader in the attack - like they had Glenn McGrath for so long. Mitch Johnson is like our Sreesanth - brilliant when good and pathetic when not.Warne forgit to mention one more thing missing with the Aussies today - a cool, methodical brain to oversee everything. Probably Warne himself would be the best guy for the job.
Re: Sliding Aussies
by Kaka on Dec 30, 2010 08:24 PM
Warnie gave the right reasons, one that comes so insight-fully from his cricketing brain.
He has clearly pinpointed the right factors and also the factors that made England the champ team that they are right now.
As for coming back, i dont agree with u as Warnie is now 41 years and does not have the stamina nor the guile to play Test cricket again which is different from T20 in all ways.
After Sachin,Dravid & Laxaman's retirement... the same decline what happend to Ausies can happen to India as well. Caution Ahead. Leassons to be learned.
Re: Warning Bells for India too
by chatter on Dec 30, 2010 06:59 PM
Very true. Dravid is just a shadow of what he was. But definitely, who do we have to take Sachin's or Laxman's place ?
Re: Warning Bells for India too
by jacobbern on Dec 30, 2010 09:49 PM
After Sachin leaves, India's success rate will only improve...just replace him with another player who is willing to work hard but is not selfish.
Re: Re: Warning Bells for India too
by abhay bisen on Dec 31, 2010 08:45 AM
refer analysis of wisden mate when you criticize sachin and also refer what shane warn has to say about him , curently no one is like him and ther is no replacement of him , probably it seems you are very new to cricket hence i sugest you to refer wisdon's analysis on great players , you will know the truth
Re: Re: Warning Bells for India too
by anup kale on Dec 30, 2010 06:53 PM
Yes bench strength is very good for T20 and ODI. But with test matches you need 2/3 matured batsman to adjust the middle order which will be emptied after departure of fab 3(4th is already retired). At the moment Pujara, Vijay, Kohli and Sharma are immediate replacements. But time will tell Sharma is huge talent but serious attitude problem. Yuvi at one stage was contender of captaincy is now no where in the scene. Players like Badrinath are about to loose the chance due to age factor. Many others like Manoj Tiwari, Shikhar Dhavan, A Mukand, A Rahane are knocking doors now. Lets see what selector select. But one thing for sure they need wall(determined like Dravid), Class(Like Sachin) and die hard man like Laxman. All these individuals including Ganguly had done great job and lifted level of cricket outside the subcontinent. So lets wait for future and lets welcome with wholeheartedly so that they will feel the confidence.
Re: Re: Warning Bells for India too
by Rajesh Shetty on Dec 30, 2010 06:39 PM
dear rooney..which bench strength r u talking of ? Odi and T20 ? Can u name one player who can rub shoulders with Sachin after he made his debut in 89 ? Or for that matter even with Dravid, Laxman, Ganguly & Sehwag. If from the past 15-20 yrs, u could not find one promising name(maybe the recent find would be Gambhir, Pujara is still untested )then how do u say we have plenty of test match bench strength ? And this inspite of all the grooming that the youngsters have got in terms of training and exposure. So just wait for them to retire. Then u will feel the vaccum. Dont forget after Kapil's retirement, we still havent found one decent all-rounder to date who could lay claim to the title. A captain/management is as good as his team.
Re: Re: Re: Warning Bells for India too
by Popatlal on Dec 31, 2010 05:19 AM
There is a flip side to everything. When you work in the corporate world, no one is irreplacable. The problem with Australia is not talent but technique. English attack is not such that you would lose so miserably. They have just not applied themselves with batting so if the bowlers do not have the runs to defend naturally they are going to get demoralized which by the way was the real reason why we saw such pathetic performance in our bowling in the first test
Re: Re: Re: Warning Bells for India too
by Varun on Dec 31, 2010 08:46 AM
How can a youngster rub shoulders with a senior ? Could sachin rub shoulders with kapil or gavaskar then ?. NO. Get it ?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Warning Bells for India too
by mukund vaidya on Jan 01, 2011 01:58 PM
it is the same with dravid, tendy and laxman and sehwag. why their replacements are required?
Re: Re: Warning Bells for India too
by sathish kumar on Dec 30, 2010 07:14 PM
Dravid,Sachin and ganguly they play safe...that is not to loose the match. Thats why the success percentage is less earlier. Starting from Anil kumbles captaincy and now dhoni there is a change in approach... try for a win... in the process if you loose dont mind... thats what is giving results... Indian team has not adopted a "Shewagian Approach"
actually australian selectors very sleeping coz the era australian team maintained under stevewaugh n pointing side two years back when gilly,magrath,warne,hayden were there.no new faces were allowed to play properly thats where australia suffered a lot
