Re: Bhajji
by sunil k on Aug 20, 2010 12:32 PM
Undoubtadly swann is the best spinner in the world right now....unlike deteriorating 4 and 5th day subcontinent pitches he bowled on "true" surfaces all round the world and took wickets without much frm pitch.....a matchwinning spinner on all surfaces......bhajji must learn frm him on how vary pace and trajectory to deceive batsmen rather than lamenting , crying if the pitch doesent offer turn.....harbhajan is a complete waste on a good firm pitch ...no flight no variations...
Re: Bhajji
by Mohan on Aug 20, 2010 04:47 AM
In february, Harbhajan Singh claimed five wickets as India sealed a dramatic innings-and-57-run victory on the final day of the second Test against South Africa at Eden Gardens to draw the series 1-1 and retain their place at the top of the ICC rankings.
Re: Re: Bhajji
by Sameer Bhagwat on Aug 20, 2010 05:28 AM
Bowling on the final day on an Indian pitch is 100 times different from bowling on the first day on an unresponsive English wicket.
Do you want to see Bhajji bowling figures outside India( also in India take out 4th innings) for the past 5 years?
Re: Re: Re: Bhajji
by Mohan on Aug 20, 2010 08:31 AM
How about Newzealnd wicket. Last year Newzealand tour Harbhajan was the leading wicket-taker from both sides in both ODIs and Tests
Re: Re: Re: Re: Bhajji
by jithu on Aug 20, 2010 10:12 AM
IN that newzealand series, india won by batting first only. So on first day pitch newzealanders didnt get good assistance from pitch. So india batted for 2 and half day. So again here bhajji took wickets on fourth day only.
Re: Re: Re: Bhajji
by Sunil Vaidya on Aug 20, 2010 10:53 AM
sameer Bhagwat, how do you know that first day pitch was unresponsive? BTW it was not first day. and if the pitch was unresponsive how did pak bowlers got their wickets? how do you know that all the balls that swann bowled were good balls? how do you know that pak players did not play badly to lose their wickets? we all know how pak batsmen have played in the last many tests. and how can you say that bhajji has not taken wickets on opening or second day of any test match ever in his life? and even though in the match against SA it was fifth day of the match it was not as if it was a minefield. in fact the pitch was good and did not give so much assistance to the bowlers as one would think that it would give on the fifth day. also zaheer being injured we were playing with only 3 specialist bowlers that day who had to distribute all the load among themselves.
Sameer Bhagwat, Swann may be a good bowler that does not mean/make bhajji is a bad bowler. do you know how many matches bhajji has won for us in his career so far? bhajji is one of the best bowlers india has ever produced. do you know how much important weapon he has been in the arsenal of ganguly, dravid, kumble and dhoni? The rise in stature of indian cricket in this decade is because of bhajji. we have been the only country whom australia could not get better of in this decade and it is solely because of bhajji's bowling. do you know who stopped steve waugh's australian juggernaut? it was bhajji who did it.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Bhajji
by Sunil Vaidya on Aug 20, 2010 11:20 AM
sameer bhagwat, you are that type of india fan (?) who never see or say any good about indian players and constantly run them down. however good indian players may perform you people are never satisfied and try to find out reasons to run them down. on the other hand you appreciate each and every performance of opponent team. even if they perform badly you find reasons for that bad performance and even if indian players put a good performance you try to find out some fault in them otherwise you feel uncomfortable. dhoni never had kumble as a bowler under him but inspite of that he has done so good and one of the reason is bhajji's performance. in fact ganguly was so big fan bhajji and that he preferred him over kumble many times.
Sameer Bhagwat it is YOU who is a MORON to make such a statement like bahjji has not taken a good test wicket in the last 3 years. in fact he has major role to play in dhoni's record of 10 wins in 16 tests as a captain.
In the 3 years of his career Swann has taken so far 97 wickets in 22 tests if we exclude this eng-pak test. and 101 wickets so far if we include this eng-pak test which is Swann's 23rd test. In the last 3 years FYI bhajji has taken 106 wickets in 24 tests.
in his career of 3 tests so far swann has played maximum under captaincy of Strauss under whom he has taken 77 wickets in 19 tests. for the past many tests bhajji is performing dhoni captaincy for whom he has taken 68 wickets in 15 tests.
Re: Re: Bhajji
by sunil k on Aug 20, 2010 12:35 PM
that was a 5th day deteriorating typical subcontinent pitch.....more than his bowling the foolishness of SA batsmen not to play positively against him and play for the entire day, that cost the wickets for them.....
Re: Re: Re: Bhajji
by satish chandar on Aug 20, 2010 01:13 PM
I think the SA batting lineup with Amla, Kallis, AB, Boucher is far far potent than this useless Paki batting lineup with silly fellows..
Swann is currently the best spin bowler in the world.. But dont degrade any other bowler..
