I thought he will be unstopable but now murry beats him to win canadian open.he is losing to mant players for first or second time.i think end od roger era
Re: Everything is fair........
by Sunil Vaidya on Aug 17, 2010 12:15 PM
sehwag did not claim he is a saint. in fact he openly said/admitted that such things are done. opposition records are tried to be avoided/stopped.
Re: Everything is fair........
by sameer on Aug 17, 2010 11:21 AM
that was to win the match.. all the teams do it to win !! and India still had to get the africans out.. who was winning the game yesterday... it was just personal jealousy nothing else !!
Re: Re: Everything is fair........
by LG on Aug 17, 2010 11:25 AM
sameer, you mean to say...you can violate the game's spirit for win...but with same logic why not for other reason that only Randiv and team mates know.
Re: Re: Re: Everything is fair........
by sameer on Aug 17, 2010 11:39 AM
No.. but atleast they were trying to achieve something.. that is to win the match... yesterday there was really no outcome to what randiv was trying.. its just jealousy
Re: Re: Re: Re: Everything is fair........
by Sirish on Aug 17, 2010 12:52 PM
agree with Sameer... LG, you can't compare the two.. one was for a team/nation to win the game, in this instance, it was to deny a person a century. Sri lankans are known for such tactics- this is not the first instance.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Everything is fair........
by LG on Aug 17, 2010 02:13 PM
My point is...if the end results--spirit of the game violated--are same, then it make no difference what were the means whether
1. Randiv bowling a no ball deliberately
2. Sehwag deliberately pushing the ball for four
3. Some captains using negative tactics for stop the flow of the runs
Re: randiv
by abhisek jain on Aug 17, 2010 11:24 AM
Ha Ha Ha look who is talking. When was d last time a Paki scired a decent hundred. They are not of Test Cricket level and come to comment about the No.1 test team in the world.
Re: Re: randiv
by Sanjeev Suri on Aug 18, 2010 05:27 PM
When the entire team struggles to put up 90 runs [ or less ], please tell me HOW CAN YOU be so cruel and demand an individual century ?
Re: Re: Sehwag finally brings his Test form to ODIs
by Senthil on Aug 17, 2010 11:23 AM
He played a more mature Innings and scoring around 60 SR when India in trouble and playing very very sensibly and controlled himself for not going for big shots
Re: Sehwag finally brings his Test form to ODIs
by LG on Aug 17, 2010 11:27 AM
you are counting your chickens before they are hatched.......He was lucky twice. So let us wait and see.
Here is a very strange irony in cricketing rules. Hope ICC takes note of this. 1. If on 170, Sehwag would have hit a six off a legal ball, the score becomes 176, and not just 171. The other 5 runs are counted even though at the very first run the match is deemed won. 2. In the middle of a match, a six off a no ball is still a six for the batsman. 3. If the batsman is run-out of a no-ball, he is still given out inspite of an extra run on the scoreboard. 4. One famous example I would like to quote during 1987 India-Pak series. Last ball Pak needed 2 runs for a win, they had 1 wkt in hand. According to the rules of those days, even if they had scored 1 run without losing a wicket, the scores would have tied and Pak would have still won the match. But Quadir went for a 2nd run(maybe not knowing), and got run out by Azhar. So bcos of this inspite of a tie, India won the match. Now here why should the attempt for the 2nd run not be considered redundant, since after the 1st run, Pak has won the match ? Now if someone says its bcos 'the ball is in play', then the same thing applies to the Randiv no-ball bcos the ball is still in play. We have seen players getting stumped(i.e run out ) off a no-ball too. So I feel the rule is inconsistent here. 4. One more situation - what if a batsman goes for a pull/hook shot, hits a winning last ball six, but in the process loses balance and falls of the wicket ? So he is hit wkt after the match ended(won), so is he out ?
Re: Strange rules
by Sanjeev Suri on Aug 18, 2010 05:32 PM
Good Logical Arguments , Rajesh !
Read my comment at the top & tell me what is the hitch ? It appears that all the people involved are ONLY interested in making noises without doing the logical thing & putting the matter to rest.
the spirit of the game violated? Sadly, Cricket is no more a gentleman game--accept it or not.
No doubt, it was wrong to bowl no ball deliberately.
But this is not the first of its kind when the spirit of the game has been violated...have you not seen captains using negative tactics to stop the flow of the runs?
So the question is which is a bigger vice considering the spirit of the game.
If you all are true cricket fans and care about sportsmanship, raise your voices whenever the spirit of the game is violated.
Well, there are cases where a few Indian players (Jaychands) denied their fellow players some milestones or tried to stop from reaching ones.
Stop being partial & selective in raising your voices.
He is a big coward !! Why did he send virat kohli and rohit sharma ahead of himself and his beloved Raina to face the swinging ball !! As a captain he should have taken the responsibility.. he came in the end to play the spinners and show that he can finish the game when it was already won by sehwag... what happened against newzealand in the previous match when the team really needed him and he got out like a schoolboy !! What a shame !!
Re: DHONI IS A COWARD
by LG on Aug 17, 2010 11:12 AM
Yes, no doubt.Dhobi is proven coward. I have been saying since long...probably for a year. A mediocre person will always be coward and selfish/manipulator.
Re: Re: DHONI IS A COWARD
by sameer on Aug 17, 2010 11:18 AM
Not only that.. he always comes in the end of an already won match and tries to remain not out for improving his average.. he has more not outs to his name than even a sehwag or a yuvraj who have played 100 more matches than him.. this guy is pathetic.. enjoying on the efforts of sourav ganguly who gave india gems like sehwag !!
Re: Re: Re: Re: DHONI IS A COWARD
by Sunil Vaidya on Aug 17, 2010 12:23 PM
sameer YOU are pathetic. zero knowledge of cricket you have and showing that you know everything.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DHONI IS A COWARD
by Sanjeev Suri on Aug 18, 2010 05:40 PM
My Dear POTENTIAL CAPTAINS all of you,
It is easy to criticize from outside & OVERLOOK THE FACT that there are "many factors" to be considered before the batting order is decided.
Are you guys 100% certain that Dhoni "does not have confidence in the abilities of his team mates" ? THAT would have been a fair reason for him to promote himself to no.#3 . But then, why have these two guys in the team at all ? Have they not justified themselves at #3 & #4 earlier ?
This is purely neither the spirit of cricket nor the sportsman spirit. But this is really very very shameful on part of the lankans players, particularly the Captin Sangakara in fact it is only Sangkara who had given such instructions to Randiv to go for the no ball.. What a great actor, director he is...? He should have been in Bollywood trying his luck over there after saying that he wasn't aware of such incident as if some OWL was comanding as Captain...? what a crap..? Good on the part of Sehwag who has shown the sportsman spirit & have denied for the hundred...Satish Bhatla
Re: Rule is correct.....
by Senthil on Aug 17, 2010 11:12 AM
No, the rule sucks, They count the ball as Batsman faced the delivery but they take out the runs scored off that delivery. You can't justify this damn rule.
