Re: if any any player plays 4 160 test he is bound 2 make records
by Against Pseudos on Aug 06, 2010 06:31 AM
Tendusach:
The great thing with your IFFY logic is that you can prove anything with an IF..
IF Prinyanka GandhiJee played cricket she would have won more matches than she played, and hence Viru should learn how to win matches from Priyanka GandhiJee... :)
Re: if any any player plays 4 160 test he is bound 2 make records
by Sameer on Aug 04, 2010 09:09 PM
here is the funny thing , find players who last for 160 tests . Also i am curious as to why you view sehwag higher than sachin , even though sachin is sehwag's rolemodel and sehwag considers an honor to share the batting crease with tendy.
Oh wait ... I know , you are the IPL junk who likes mindless slogging kind of cricket. Sehwag , has basically been given the license to bat as he pleases irrespective of the circumstance. Which is fine by the way, since he would fail if asked to suppress his natural game.
Thats why no one really is affected when sehwag gets out after making few quick runs. Because in everyones mind , they believe sehwag will hit out or get out.
Re: Re: if any any player plays 4 160 test he is bound 2 make rec
by tendusach on Aug 04, 2010 09:31 PM
sachin likes Gavasker ...so now Gavasker is better than sachin lol
Re: Re: Re: if any any player plays 4 160 test he is bound 2 make
by Sameer on Aug 04, 2010 10:12 PM
except that gavaskar sings praises of Sachin and Views Sachin as the best batsman ever
Re: Re: Re: Re: if any any player plays 4 160 test he is bound 2
by Sameer on Aug 04, 2010 10:14 PM
yeah but then again gavaskar and other cricket greats are wrong in sachins judgement and you are right with your infinite experience in cricket right ?
Re: if any any player plays 4 160 test he is bound 2 make records
by mother consultants on Aug 04, 2010 09:12 PM
people should remember that sachin is the epitome of attacking batsmanship in his prime. Sehwag is a follower as acknowledged by himself.
Re: if any any player plays 4 160 test he is bound 2 make records
by Sameer on Aug 04, 2010 09:15 PM
Also, there are lot of people in this country who commit suicide , you should learn from them on how to commit suicide.
Re: Re: if any any player plays 4 160 test he is bound 2 make rec
by tendusach on Aug 04, 2010 09:33 PM
A -ive person like u will learn but i will try 2 rescue them...
Re: Re: Re: if any any player plays 4 160 test he is bound 2 make
by Against Pseudos on Aug 06, 2010 06:33 AM
Tendusach:
A -ive person like you will feel that there are 200 players who have played 160 tests and its no big deal, but we will try to rescue you from your -ive thinking... :)
Re: if any any player plays 4 160 test he is bound 2 make records
by tendusach on Aug 04, 2010 09:35 PM
just take this test ...the only way India can think 2 win, only if viru stays 4 the entire 2nd day..
Re: Re: if any any player plays 4 160 test he is bound 2 make rec
by Mahesh Dave on Aug 04, 2010 11:01 PM
Paresh.....cricket is the only sport where Sachin sticks like "favicol" because of moron "blindworshipers" and dirty selection policy....If Sachin play for Australia....he get kickin back-side long ago...
Re: Re: Re: if any any player plays 4 160 test he is bound 2 make
by abhijit sinkar on Aug 04, 2010 11:19 PM
Not so.. But for sure he would have made more runs andd records as he would not have been the only "sole" performing batsmen in the team and he would have played under less pressure.Remember that Sachin knew once he was out the match would easily be lost. Remember Chennai 1996 against Pakistan,Tendulkar played with a aching back and made 136, was out only India were 17 short of winning and 4 wickets in hand and we lost the test. Definiltely 4 Australian tailenders would have easily score 17 runs.
Re: Re: Re: if any any player plays 4 160 test he is bound 2 make
by asdfghjkl on Aug 05, 2010 01:49 PM
You moron .. davya .. if sachin had played for australia , then he would never had been a racial target by peolple like bucknya (steve buckner) he would have created more records ... btw, get your IQ and reasoning capacities checked by a goood doc ...!
No doubt sachin is true legend of Indian cricket.Lemme know any player in Indian history even closer to him. So stop banting sachin for every reason....But one cant deny the moment u think sachin wud play 2day cuz india needs to wins he gets back to pavillion quickly....n sachin knows himself well about this...may it be WDCUP final whn mcgrath got him....but his records speaks for him.....sachin rocks
Re: why sachin all time
by S Shrikanth on Aug 04, 2010 08:21 PM
Because:
1. He is endorsing for biggest consumer companies and corporates. 2. Gets dropped by opponent fielders to make his centuries. 3. Because umpires do not give him LBW in close decisions. His worst fear is DRS.
Re: Re: why sachin all time
by asdfghjkl on Aug 05, 2010 01:54 PM
Mr Shrikant ..... are you aware how many times sachin is given out even though he was NOTOUT including todays test in shri lanka?( 5th aug 2010) that bucknya Stev buckner holds a world record of giving Tendulkar out evenwhen he is NOTOUT ..... better get urself checked
Re: Re: why sachin all time
by Sameer on Aug 04, 2010 08:59 PM
1) Dhobi holds the record you dimwit and dhobi hasn't done anything in any ICC tournament
2) So how is it Tendy's problem ? What about the 44324324 lives that opposition players get when they play India ? Jeez I would call you stupid, but I think I would be insulting the phenomenon called " stupidity"
3) Check the records , Tendy has been the most unlucky player when it comes to umpiring decisions. He probably holds the record. last ODI series in sri lanka he was given out 3 times a row and all 3 times he was not out. I would ask you to die of shame, but insects like you don't die of Shame either. We need a good insect repellent
If Sachin made personal records then use ur common sense that those personal record runs got added to the teams total. If he does well in records then so does the team.
Wat does most MOM & MO series mean to u guys? Personal records? If yes, then ur idiot.
Personal record was Lara's 400. Windies just kept playing 4 days against australia & got the match draw just so that lara can reach 400. Sachin wud never do that
Re: Personal Record is Team Record
by Nostradamus Great on Aug 04, 2010 08:52 PM
You are wrong... West Indies were batting first, Lara scored 200 on Day 1 and they declared on Day 2 after Lara made 400... Any team will do that today (Bat for 2 days if they are in a good position).
England batted, out before they could avoid follow on, followed on and batted all through the remaining of the test and it ended in a draw...!!
So West Indies did not make ANY MISTAKE by LETTING Lara score 400 runs in that test!
Re: Re: Personal Record is Team Record
by Sameer on Aug 04, 2010 09:13 PM
No lara batted for 2.5 days , effectively ruling any result. I think they were pretty close to bowling england out. Think they were 5 wickets short and had they had about 1/2 day, they might have won.
Re: Re: Re: Personal Record is Team Record
by Free Free on Aug 04, 2010 08:39 PM
something like that. I mean that was totally ridiculous. Just to get him to 400 they gave the game away.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Personal Record is Team Record
by Sameer on Aug 04, 2010 08:47 PM
it is not "They" . He took advantage of him being the captain. He was criticized by his peers and former cricketers after the match
even sachin himself cant win cup single handedly...we will need zahir,nehra,bhajji,ojha, to do the job... praveen kr should be groomed as all rounder and if he is not available then irfan pathan should be in the team... ideal team
Re: world cup...
by Sameer on Aug 04, 2010 08:32 PM
please Ravindra jadeja seems to be a better bowling allarounder than the pathan bros. And we don't have bowlers at the moment.
Re: Re: world cup...
by Vijaykumar Thakur on Aug 04, 2010 09:38 PM
if there is no sachin we cant even get in to second stage ... even when we have sehwag sachin gambhir raina yuvraj / yusuf dhoni irfan /p.k bhajji zahir nehra ojha / mishra
even sachin himself cant win cup single handedly...we will need zahir,nehra,bhajji,ojha, to do the job... praveen kr should be groomed as all rounder and if he is not available then irfan pathan should be in the team... ideal team
Tendulkar was a poor captain and could not tolerate the pressure of leading, I was die hard fan but when he refused to be captain he just became a great batsman not a player. Now I think he can't achieve the feat of Successful captain as we already have Dhoni the great..lead qualities are surely missing in him...which u can see in Kapil Dev, Steve Waugh , Ranatunga...and Dhoni in today
Re: Unsuccessful Captaincy
by Free Free on Aug 04, 2010 07:57 PM
Yes he didn't turn out to be a great successful captain. BTW do u remember the team he captained? We had horrible 11, ppl like Sanjay Bangar used to open our test innings in Australia. So i wont put sachin down for that.
Re: Re: Re: Unsuccessful Captaincy
by Sameer on Aug 04, 2010 08:47 PM
No Ganguly Restructured the team , and To be honest Ganguly was a better leader of men than Tendy.
Not everyone is captain material anyways. Problem with Tendy is " he demands perfection" . Him setting high standards for himself kind of had a bad side effect while he was leading.
Also we got better bowlers in the 2000's than in the 90's
We had 1 decent support bowler srinath and 1 strike bowler Kumble and thats it.
Starting this decade we got zaheer khan , nehra , bhajji who were way better than the bowlers they replaced. Hence change in performance.
If you observe , we were doing really well 2007-2008 onwards in foreign pitches because the bowlers were in good form.
Now the bowlers form goes bad and we struggle. Bowling is our weakness , not batting.
Re: Re: Re: Unsuccessful Captaincy
by satish chandar on Aug 05, 2010 09:24 AM
Ha ha.. Sachin was simply given the worst team possible in the history..
Ppl like Jacob martin, Abhijit Kale, Bowlers like Bahatule, Robin Sngh jr, and so many genius like them played under them..
Ganguly had the backup of Dalmiya and they both really worked together in a positive way!! Having Wright as coach was really an added advantage for them to put the points in polite way...
Ganguly had the freedom and got what he wanted.. Sachin dint have it and had to play with what he got.. Thats the difference..
Re: Re: Unsuccessful Captaincy
by Jaspal Arora on Aug 04, 2010 08:11 PM
yeah but he himself step down from captaincy and agreed that he could not perform under pressure of captaincy.. u can see his individual records even. Also thats what role of captain is to take out best from the average players. When tendulkar himself agreed that he can't perform under captaincy pressure then there is nothing left over here .. now i think he probably needs a new start of his cricket life to become captain so that record will always be untouched by him...
Only thing that is pending is lifting the World cup!!! He will reach the landmark in 2011. One Pace,swing bowler is what we need to find. We cant play 2011 WC with Munaf or RP singh or Ishant or Irfan. We need a bowler who can bowl at 140 and swing either ways. we have another 6 months!!!
Anyone who blames Sachin is mentally wrong...how can they say Sachin is not a match winner...in 1996 WC,we reached semifinal bcz of his runs..and 2003 WC,we reached final bcz of him...once upon a time in foreign matches ,we cannot imagine without sachin and dravid..if sachin is not getting gud runs in opening..we will switch off the tv.. in real life,we will workhard then only god will help u...if we want to win WC,there must be a team effort..ie,we saw in 2007 t20 and 1983 WC..
Re: Tendulkar-The Great
by S Shrikanth on Aug 04, 2010 08:25 PM
But Tendulkar's record in big tournaments like WC and ICC CT has been miserable since 2003 WC.
The only 2 tournaments the team has won - T20 WC, Asia cup 2010. Both without Tendulkar.
Re: Re: Tendulkar-The Great
by Sameer on Aug 04, 2010 08:53 PM
Also I love how you want to nitpick the phase of his career when he was not in form and was injured more often than not.
So how is it that you can blame 1 player ? What are the other 10 players doing ?
Ok Also,
Dhobi's performances in WC's has been bad - he has not done anything in any of the t20 wc's as well as 2007 wc
I can substitute dhobi's name with some more cricketeer names by the way
Re: Re: Tendulkar-The Great
by Against Pseudos on Aug 06, 2010 06:41 AM
S Shrikanth:
So? Even Dhoni's record has been miserable except for the two wins you named....
Also, if he had performed in those big tournaments, YOU would be screaming right now that he perfoms ONLY in big tournaments... given the long term and short term memory loss of yours.. :)
Re: Re: Tendulkar-The Great
by Sameer on Aug 04, 2010 08:51 PM
asia cup was sri lanka , us and porkistan . Is it very different to other 3 match tourneys ? Also if we have won only 2 tourneys, that also indicates that the team hasn't been consistant. Hence patchy performances.
Re: Re: Tendulkar-The Great
by jatin ved on Aug 04, 2010 08:57 PM
hey after 2003 there was only 1 ODI world cup in 2007 where India as a team played horrible........so dont just blame sachin n look at his past big tournaments records
