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daniel thorat
About India`s overpampered, baby-fat cricketers and defeats
by daniel thorat on Sep 27, 2009 06:07 PM

Between batting and bowling,it is batting which is more important and more glorified. The entire "skill" part in batting, briefly, is that the batsman is able to hit the ball with such accuracy and force that it goes for a six or a boundary. None of India`s batsmen including our centuries-statistics champion Sachin has that basic skill. The problem is that they are mortally afraid of hitting any ball with a ferocious, passionate force because, of course, after hitting the wicket, the batsman has a merely fraction of a second to judge its direction, height, speed etc.and nobody can be ever confident of playing that ball. Not one batsman can do this "judging", and the famous ones are only fortunate most of the time. That is the reason why Sachin, Dhoni,Yuvraj, Dravid or anybody is likely to fail and disappoint us as on 26th Sept.test. I think Zahir Abbas some years ago had shown in actual practice how this great "luck" problem can be solved. Zahir Abbas did not wait for the ball to touch the wicket and fool him, but tried to convert the balls into "full toss" hits and he succeeded.All the "glorious" uncertainty and stupidity of trying to "judge" each ball were pushed aside. Instead of a lot of professoril talk our cricketers indulge in, they and the coaches must train for this brave kind of bating. It was pathetic and pain to watch our tail enders scoring single runs, having no guts to hit hard.And why should our bowlers be so stpid and incompetent as to fail totally to bat?

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narsimulu
next matches
by narsimulu on Sep 27, 2009 06:07 PM  | Hide replies

In next matches dhoni bring Harbhaji early because bhajji takes early on batsman wickets who are strong so other bowlers bowl weak batsman.

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daniel thorat
Re: next matches
by daniel thorat on Sep 27, 2009 06:35 PM
All permutations and combinations can certainly be of some help. But, the main thing is : India must concentrate on one of the two parts: BATTING or BOWLING. If India can give up the "text book" postures that vague "cricket culture" ofthe bygone ages, then our batsmen must show guts of trying to convert evry incoe ball into a full toss, and hit it for a six or a four. Sixes enable you to forget about opponent fielding/ run out, turn of the ball, body injury etc. and conserve batsman`s energy, besides making the opponents nervous. Bowling success hangs on a batsman`s mistake/ misjudgement etc. The other important and glaring problem of Indian cricketers is their very, very delicate physical training or health. Why should our cricketers suffer these wounds if they are mentally and physically fit enough to dodge the ball or avoid a fall. Even the warm-up exercises they are seeing doing as quite effeminate and wouldn`t strain any muscle whatsoever ! Remember Sir Viv Richard ? Any Indian cricketers coming close to that physical condition? The reason is that cricketers are mostly from affluent families and the high cost gyms or yoga/ aerobics etc. just can build them up physically. Surely,one can spot the vast difference between a standard football player`s agility, speed and that of our cricketers. Their plumb, handsome faces may be good for promo ads but they lack even normal, male facial muscles.

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CG GANG
virat kohli
by CG GANG on Sep 27, 2009 06:06 PM

why is he in S.A in first place? there are better players available than that guy

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venkat nr
Good captain
by venkat nr on Sep 27, 2009 06:00 PM  | Hide replies

pakistan has plaed very sencible match yesterday. We didn't bowl well that's the reason. We have lost the match. We could have done better way. We would have got them got soon. Initial we have more change to win the matches. We have lost couple wicket soon that's why pressure has been build up anyway past is past at least we have to do the better rest of the matches.

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daniel thorat
Re: Good captain
by daniel thorat on Sep 27, 2009 06:15 PM
Pakistan will ALWAYS win against India because the superior skill, passionate commitment,fierce national pride mixed with deep-set desire to crush India in all fields, and above all, its superb fearlessnes and diligence clarly seen on their faces during play against Inda in particular. None of Pakistans cricketers have reached half the level of crores earned by India`s cricketers !

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opinion
Re: Re: Good captain
by opinion on Sep 27, 2009 07:05 PM
You seem to have become pakistan fan after this win. Good teams are the ones who have consistancy in their wins. There is BIG question marks in every attribute you defined for pakistan.

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iftekar dabir
Best playing 11
by iftekar dabir on Sep 27, 2009 05:54 PM  | Hide replies

1. Sachin
2. Gambhir
3. Dravid
4. Raina
5. Dhoni
6. Kholi
7. A. Nayer
8. Harbhajan
9. Praveen Kumar
10. Amit Mishra
11. Nehra
What you say guys.

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Bharat
Re: Best playing 11
by Bharat on Sep 27, 2009 06:15 PM
. Sachin
2. Gambhir
3. Jaffer
4. Raina
5. Dinesh karthich
6. Md. Kaif
7. faiz fazal
8. Iqbal Abdulla
9. Zaheer Khan
10. Irfan Pathan
11. Munaf Patel
What you say guys

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Sekhar Panchal
Re: Best playing 11
by Sekhar Panchal on Sep 27, 2009 05:58 PM
No
I think dravid does not deserve place in ODI team.

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iftekar dabir
Re: Re: Best playing 11
by iftekar dabir on Sep 27, 2009 06:11 PM
Because of Dravid we able to play 45 overs against Pakistan. There is no replacement for him now. May home series with Austrlia we should try younsters

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sisir majumder
Defeat in Chapion Trophy.
by sisir majumder on Sep 27, 2009 05:43 PM  | Hide replies

Dhoni should introduce Harban singh At the time when Pakistan was 65 --The irregular bowler can be given chance when Shoib Malik was hitting dangerously--field arrangement can be changed.The batsmen must be more cautious when hitting the ball. The earlier one or Two Batsmen must take agreesive mood to get quick runs. Failures are the pillars of success. All the members should take a lesson from this match.

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rumwhisky
Re: Defeat in Chapion Trophy.
by rumwhisky on Sep 27, 2009 05:48 PM
harbajan is a wasted lot, fit do modelling, he only can show off in subcontinent wickets, he should be thrown out, late or early this hot tempered foold is a failure, he will only bring the moral of the team very low

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iftekar dabir
Re: Re: Defeat in Chapion Trophy.
by iftekar dabir on Sep 27, 2009 06:02 PM
We don't have spinner better than Harbhajan. only replacement is Amit Mishra who is not good enough.

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supandi supandi
better not than late..
by supandi supandi on Sep 27, 2009 05:41 PM  | Hide replies

Dhoni should not have brought harbhajan singh to bowl at all

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Anil Khare
Re: better not than late..
by Anil Khare on Sep 27, 2009 05:52 PM
and no more in comming matches

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opinion
Younis Khan
by opinion on Sep 27, 2009 05:38 PM

Youni and other pakistani players are showing attitide of winners, looks like pakistan is going to go ong way in this tournament. They are playing psycological warfare before and after the game while focussing on cricket during the play.

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New Jersey
India will loose remaining matches
by New Jersey on Sep 27, 2009 05:23 PM  | Hide replies

India will not be able to win a single match out of the 2 remaining. They do not have wicket taking bowlers. wut kind of team is playing in Champions trophy??

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rumwhisky
Re: India will loose remaining matches
by rumwhisky on Sep 27, 2009 05:50 PM
If they beat the west Indies BCCI has thought of giving Dhoni/Harbajan/Pathan 1 crore each

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iftekar dabir
Re: Re: India will loose remaining matches
by iftekar dabir on Sep 27, 2009 06:04 PM
India will able to beat only West Indies, just play 2 spinners. Dhoni already ask his player to pack bags to return.

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Abhi
BCCI
by Abhi on Sep 27, 2009 05:17 PM  | Hide replies

BCCI has different set of rules for different players
it is very palpable that having the cheif selector from south zone helped dravid to come back
why was irfan pathan dropped, when he would have been handy as a batsman yesterday
dinesh karhik is a regular tourist nowadyas
when,u have wriddhiman saha who is better WK/BATS than dinesh karthik

also,chetshwar pujara and manoj tiwari r not given chances
rohit shrma was stripped of bcoz of bad performance in only 1 series



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cricketcricket
Re: BCCI
by cricketcricket on Sep 27, 2009 06:05 PM
baaggal we came to this level because of north only..U know i m from north,but i m not believe now north side player will perform..

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iftekar dabir
Re: BCCI
by iftekar dabir on Sep 27, 2009 05:51 PM
You got it right. Since Srikant became selector all TN player started getting selected. Can any1 answer why Karthick was not in playing 11 if he originally selected and Dhoni played Kholi. After Sehwagh & Yvuraj best batmen in India right now is Rohit Sharma. And Why Dhoni not playing Praveen Kumar instead of RP Singh or Ishant Sharma.

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rumwhisky
Re: Re: BCCI
by rumwhisky on Sep 27, 2009 05:55 PM
of the 11 played yesterday how many were from the south dont bark like a dog, Harbajan/Ishant are not from south, this north indians will never win a major tournament

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iftekar dabir
Re: Re: Re: BCCI
by iftekar dabir on Sep 27, 2009 06:00 PM
After Srikant become selector Badrinath, M Vijay, Balaji & Karthick all selected and ready made replacement for any player right now.

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rumwhisky
Re: BCCI
by rumwhisky on Sep 27, 2009 05:53 PM
use ur brains just dont scribble something, Karthik is a waste, Irfan would have been a waste like Yusuf, had it not been for dravid India would have faced their worst defeat against Paksitan, atleast that was averted, all these pujara/tiwar etc are only home lions, outside they are rats if sense prevail look like Laxman/Ganguly/Kumble can be brought back,This south/north mentality of people like u is ruining the game Dhoni and co are all from north see what they have achieved, simple dont write for the sake of writing

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iftekar dabir
Re: Re: BCCI
by iftekar dabir on Sep 27, 2009 05:58 PM
Accept truth my dear. Dravid really needed & played very well yesterday. His slow batting didn't cost anything as we lost by 50 odd runs and 5 overs was remaining. Karthick should not be in team as we have Dhoni as captain, so nobody will able to drop him. Better give chance to pure batsmen and Rohit Sharma is best right now after absence of Yuvraj & Sehwagh.

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