MSD (Captain FOOL) please get wiser and humble. Bring back Ajit Agarkar, Irfaan Pathan into the team,atleast they bat and field well in comparision to Ishant and RP Singh. Rahul Dravid is a complete misfit in ODI team... please let him go and give chance to players like Manoj Tiwary, Wriddhiman saha, Dinesh Karthik...
RP Singh, Ishant needs some rest, they out of sorts. With Zaheer the indian pace attack is leaking runs not getting break throughs. Sehwag is also missed in the line up.
Overall, it has been a good tournament since we saw some unusual names in both 3 teams. Well, the talent in India will not dry but keeping up the standard is the question. Now it is the time to prepare the raw talent to international level in NCA and give them chance to go to abroad and play cricket there. We need constant fixture for A team tours and love to see all these boys playing in Aus, Eng, SA and etc.
We are still lacking in Spinners and I hope selectors should take a look at these players and give them a chance.
Re: Good platform to see new talents
by ashish on Oct 12, 2009 06:58 PM
I agree but our captain Mr.Dhoni has said we should not pick players based on their performance in Domestic and IPL..
Re: Re: Good platform to see new talents
by Srinivasan Nanjundan on Oct 12, 2009 09:29 PM
I thought he said only about IPL but how could he come and play for India if not his performance for India A team. I think we need a better statement from him. I bet he said IPL
Re: Re: Re: Good platform to see new talents
by Prabodh Jain on Oct 12, 2009 11:02 PM
Dhoni did say Domestic and IPL, although Headline only mentioned IPL. Ashsih is right. I read it on Rediff few days ago
I dont think we have found any aggressive new talent in the tournament. Some players look impressive but over all we did not find a player in calible of Martin Guptil,Saeed Ajmal, Umar Akmal in our future teams. 1) Murali Vijay looked impressive but problem is that he did not have slogging shots, he is fit for tests. 2) Anirudha Srikanth - He has to slog like Jayasurya or like Umar to get into the team 3) T.Srivastava- Good player need to play more strokes as a opener in a One day match need to score more runs than balls he faces. 4) Badrinath- He is definately a test player 5) Wasim Jaffer- Got all the strokes in the world but should score more runs in first 30 or 40 balls he faces. Good test player could not give good start. 6) Y.Pathan- He need to practise and wait for bad ball to hit. He taking on all the balls. 7) A.Mukund- Got all the shots need to score more runs in first five overs to give good start. 8) S.S.Kumar- Played very well in one game. 9) S.Tyagi- He is definately had a chance to be in Indian Team. 10) Sreesanth- Will be part of next Indian team 11) Ishant Sharma- Time is over good bye. 12) M.M.Patel- Though he was taking wickets, he needs to practise aggression. His body language is rather lazy. 13) R.Aswin- He is most talented and will be in the Indian team very shortly. He got all varieties inlcuding carrom ball. ( This is only my views if my assessement is wrong kindly take it lightly)
Re: no fresh talent
by Srinivasan Nanjundan on Oct 12, 2009 04:57 PM
I am very happy that you have followed the local talent pool. But all these boys are good but they need to work on their skills to move towards to International standard.
Look at the end of the day ... those of whom or us who played any team sports. Know that one you are as good as you and your team mates put together and how you play as an unit. The higher you go up the realms of any team sport the harder it becomes for a consistent set of victories unless you got a solid team that plays as a unit. There I think Ricky Ponting has been blessed and the only phase of time when he had a new set of players was the begining of this year and it was to see how the team faired till the end of the English Summer.
Now in the Case of Dhoni, he is only as good as his team and he was seriously let down by his top 3 batsmen in the 20-20 world cup and his bowlers in the Champions Trophey. Inbetween he has made best of what he has and the team sits at high rankings now achieved before.
Looking at yesterday's game India Blue where blown away and you can not except Dhoni to come out perform at a high level of intensity everyday and save his team. Give the guy a break.
Think the selectors have not done him any favours Ishant Sharma has been lacking serious confidence and form so has Harbajan ... and I would not be suprised if they get selected by this challenger series performances were they played the second tier players on not so batting paradises !! End story they will get hammered by the Aussies once again if selected.
Same thing over and over.. our selectors seldom select based on talent but their quota's.
I think Munaf Patel and Agit Agarkar will comeback in ODI 2009 for there good performance and guys like R.P.Singh,Ishant Sharma will be out from ODI for there Very poor performance . R.P.Singh lost natural swing and Pace .
Re: R.P.Singh and Ishant
by ramen das on Oct 12, 2009 11:09 AM
whats ur fascination with agargar?..he's got enough chances & has flopped enough number of times 2 be out of contention...
Re: R.P.Singh and Ishant
by sai krishna on Oct 12, 2009 02:29 PM
Agarkar ? can selectors dare to give him a chance ! Hie is good candidate for next Maharashtra Assembly elections.
Re: R.P.Singh and Ishant
by Deelip Kutty on Oct 12, 2009 10:39 AM
I am fully agree of your views, but except Z. Khan who is fully recovering to come back to side.
Dhoni's luck is running out everywhere and his captaincy skills are at display like craft work in an exhibition.g He keeps on making wrong decision not because he is erring but because he does not have a cricketing brain. He was raised to the pedestal unnecessarily and somewhat it got into his head that he was the ultimate captain of Indian cricket. When he kept quiet in the field without knowing what to do next, we called him Captain Cool, when he brought some fringe bowler to bowl and took wicket, when his mainstream bowlers ran off the steam, we called him man with Mida's touch and when he took 75 balls to score 40-50, we hailed him as adapted to situations and having a steady head on his shoulders. Bullshit. For me he was the bad captain and harming influence on young cricketers even when he won the Twenty20 world cup and I hold on to this theory even now. What made him successful was that he had Lady Luck standing beside him closely. But today luck has deserted him and only 'ladies' stand beside him. He is spending more time with 'girls' off field than with 'boys' on field, with exceptionto RP Singh. He has been the master politician of India cricket much like Deve Gowda of Karnataka. Due to his wrong decisions and high-headedneness he has almost shut the careers of Irfan, Kaif, Ajit Agarkar, Robin Uthappa and even Sresanth. His blue-eyed boys such as Bhajji, Ishant, RP, Yousuf have forgotten that they are playing for the nation. But we still hail him for reason
Re: Challenger Trophy
by prashant gundani on Oct 12, 2009 03:41 AM
well said, i am not totally agree with you but good analysis for Dhoni. but i don't agree Kaif,Agarkar or Uthappa should come back, they got no of chance and they failed and they not doing exceptonally good! but i found you have a good cricket knowledge!
Re: Challenger Trophy
by Lotiya Pathan on Oct 12, 2009 04:10 AM
"He was raised to the pedestal unnecessarily and somewhat it got into his head that he was the ultimate captain of Indian cricket" AGREE
"For me he was the bad captain and harming influence on young cricketers" AGREE
Re: Who was the captain of loosing side?
by Nesa Mani on Oct 12, 2009 09:35 AM
yes this is 100% correct, players should not picked based on IPL or Domestic, reason because IPL and domestic are tentionfree tournments but internatinal tournments are full of tention. That is why Rohit, Ysuf pathan, Jedeja and etc players not able to click in Internationl. and also see the seniors Dravid palyed well in IPL T20 and now even Lakman also playing in CLT20, why because it is all about tention free match, playing for themselves not for us, if they not sign in IPL or CLT20 it will not effect country or anybody except the particular player(So once again i am telling do not pick the players based on their IPL or Domestick performance please, please.
Re: Re: Who was the captain of loosing side?
by Prabodh Jain on Oct 12, 2009 07:32 PM
By the way, the domestic is not tension free. The youngsters take that opportunity to show their talent with the hope that they get picked for higher level..
Re: Re: Who was the captain of loosing side?
by ashish on Oct 12, 2009 07:03 PM
The What?
If we don't pick 'em on their Domestic performance then how should we select the player? The point is, player should be picked based on their performance in DOmestics, and then the talent need to be groomed..
BTW, Rohit was good player, Dhoni ruined Rohit and Raina both..
Re: Re: Who was the captain of loosing side?
by Prabodh Jain on Oct 12, 2009 07:30 PM
do you know Dhoni himself was selected based on his performance in Domestic? So did Tendul, Dravid, Gangu, Kapildev and all other greats..
Go back and check T20WC scorecard and see how much opportunity Yusuf was given to bat. Mind you Yusuf was red hot and considered the cleanest hitter along with Symond at that time. Dhoni chewed up the most of the innings for his own batting and ruined the opportunities for other youngsters..
I dunno whats wrong with the selectors to keep the very good batsmen like S.Badrinath and S.Dhawan out of the team and fail so miserably. With such a yuck pace attack, these guys like Tyagi and Munaf can be atleast taken as backups.. All politics..
Re: S.Badrinath & S.Dhawan not in Ind team still ?
by sajan on Oct 11, 2009 11:23 PM
its true my dear friend...where is irfan pathan...he is lack of confidence..ya true...but on his day he is a match winner..he can contribute with bat and ball..where is kaif...where is Badri..where is S Dhawan...why r they blamming yousuf pathan for lacklusture show..the same man was the trumpcard for Warne..Dhoni doesnot no to utilise his players..whn he was captain of Cheenai kings..he never utilised R Ashwin..and under utilised many players..players should be used according to their form not on big names...i still not understant wht will happen with carrers of prgyan ojha and ashwin,mishra etc,,,and wht abt...Rohit..Tyagi and munaf are better thn nehra at any given day...
Re: S.Badrinath & S.Dhawan not in Ind team still ?
by cool on Oct 12, 2009 08:04 AM
Tyagi cant field, he is a bad fielder even according to Indian standards.And he bowls at 125k which will be dismissed to the fence by Ponting and co! Badri is good and has a good chance of making it to the team in place of Yousuf. Dhawan is fighting with Gambhir,shewag or sachin for a place and i think they are better than him in all aspects so he has to wait..Unfortunately!!
Re: munaf
by vikas nair on Oct 11, 2009 09:18 PM
The selectors keep Munaf out of the team because he is the worst fielder in India.He also keeps getting injured after every game.
Re: Re: munaf
by ANIL SINGH on Oct 12, 2009 09:24 AM
once upon a time he was desiring to break 100 mph barrier. not only he look at irfan and now ishant. ishant used to bowl 140 now most of the time i see him bowl at 130-135. maturity.
