Ajit ji is correct only to an extent. Our fielding has also been below par. Yuvi and Dhoni dropped two key catches when Aussies were going hammer and tongs against us in their 350 run building exercise. Our bowlers including Ashish Nehra (supposed to be the strike bowler) got struck right out of the ground. Only Ravindra Jadeja showed some semblance of control. Truly in a team sport where batting, fielding and bowling are integral parts of success, even if we are below par in two departments in an international match, the result is a foregone conclusion. But what Ajit ji had mentioned about the rotation policy is correct. Krish Srikkanth and his team of selectors have to pull up their socks along with Gary Kirsten to put up an improved performance against the Shrewd Lankans. Believe me they are going to be more than a handful whether its test or ODIs or T20!!
Whether anybody has seen the photographs of the cricketers party on the Star News? It was really horrible to see the players in such mood after loosing the game in Mohali. Especially the main culprits Dhoni, Yuvraj, and Jadeja were seen more enjoying.
munaf,ishant,harbhajan and (nehra upto some extent) leave no opportunity to c india defeated comfertably. ask mr. wadekar to analyse properly before making any comment.
1 shuld accept the fact that more than the indian batsmen the indian bowlers had more batting averages and also played well.The main culprit is that the batsmen know that there are no more replacement in the bench whereas for bowlers there are...
after the debacle in champs trophy, sachin told bcci officials that there were no committment from juniors n inspite of losing the match against pak, the defeat didnt hurt the youngsters. that shows the attitude of youngsters is also at fault alongwith lack of their skill.
Re: no killer instinct
by VASUDEVAN V on Nov 12, 2009 09:11 AM
The same Sachin threw away the match at Hyderabad against Australia after a brilliant knock. With just 19 runs needed off 18 balls, Sachin going great guns and Jadeaja for company, Sachin played a stupid scoop shot which need not have been played at that stage as the asking rate was well under control. One may say he played the same shot successfully earlier. Earlier the situation demanded his playing such shots because of the huge target and the asking rate. No one would have blamed him if he had got out earlier. But, with 19 of 18 balls, the most experienced batsman in international cricket with nearly 30,000 international runs to his credit, one would have expected Sachin to exercise more cricketing sense. But then, he is God of Indian cricket and no one will criticise him. He has already declared his intention to play on till WC 2011. Which means, other Indian cricketers have to try only for the remaining 10 places in the team, because no one has the guts to drop Sachin!
Re: Re: no killer instinct
by Ravi Talekar on Nov 12, 2009 10:08 AM
Agreed with you, this is not new with Sachin. Seen Shastri (Sachin's No. 1 Chum) at the presentation ceremony said nothing that with not be liked by Sachin. BCCI is full of Sachin's Chamchas, 30000 runs...huu ravi talekar, baroda
Re: Re: Re: no killer instinct
by Ravi Talekar on Nov 12, 2009 10:11 AM
As far as killer instinct is concerned, only Raina has it. Sachin tries to SAVE HIS HAND NOW A DAYS WITH A VIEW TO PLAY TO NEXT WORLD CUP.
Re: Re: no killer instinct
by sanath on Nov 12, 2009 09:23 AM
Vasudeven, grow up maan ! u r criticizing a guy and asking him to be dropped becoz he played a scoop shot at that point - a guy who went on to score half of the opposition score. So if performance matters, which so-called youngster would u choose to play for the country ? u want sachin to be dropped..can u name an apt replacement ?
It has become a fashion to criticize sachin - if he scores, ppl say he is playing for records and he shud retire now; if he doesnt, ppl say he cant score and he shud retire.
Re: Re: Re: no killer instinct
by HelloIndia on Nov 12, 2009 09:44 AM
Here Vasudevan is correct, the situation does not demands such shot from an experienced player. He could very well rotate the strike, that would have given him and also India one of the greatest victory by chacing down a big target. he brought so near but let down the team at the end. What Mr. Vasudevan has mentioned is absolutely right. Even the whole nation would rejoiced with that victory, every one expected he would sail through the team till the end. Fortunately that day he was not suffereing from craps too, but it purely a mistake made by an experienced player.
Re: Re: Re: no killer instinct
by VASUDEVAN V on Nov 12, 2009 09:45 AM
I never said he should be dropped. The fact is, we have made him bigger than the game and paying a heavy price for it. By saying he hopes to play on till WC 2011 he has made it clear that only 10 places are available in the team, because he will never be dropped by our Selectors like they drop other cricketers. Also, give the youngsters more time. Everyone is not a Sachin the God. When Sachin comes back afte injury and fails several times, you never drop him and give him time to get back in touch. Similarly, give time to the youngsters to adapt. Rohit, Virat Kohli are all made to play musical chairs for their places (Raina is allowed to play because he is close to Dhoni). If you want to build a team for 2011, give the other 10 players a long run (11th player, of course, is Sachin). Remember, the game is bigger than the individuals!
Re: Re: Re: Re: no killer instinct
by sanath on Nov 12, 2009 09:54 AM
Raina was the second contributor to the score...he has not been made bigger than the game; he has become bigger thru his sheer performance - ppl used to walk out of the stadium once he got out, that was his performance - it will be a privilege for the Indians if he plays till 2015....Regards Virat Kohli, I hope the selectors have realized their mistake and wont select him again.
Re: Re: no killer instinct
by AAMIR on Nov 12, 2009 09:40 AM
Vasudevan chasing a total of 350 he had scored half the runs why are the others there to just collect money and commercials
Re: Re: Re: no killer instinct
by VASUDEVAN V on Nov 12, 2009 09:59 AM
Mr.Aamir: What did your God do in the other 5 matches. Just collect money and pose for commercials! Come on man grow up. He was well set and could have easily won the game for India. But, he threw it all away with a stupid shot and let us criticize him for that. He is not God. He is paid for what he has done for the country and has earned crores of rupees. As a professional, he should have exhibited more cricketing sense at that stage of the game. See how the Australians play and they get paid much less than Tendulkar!
Re: Re: no killer instinct
by sanath on Nov 12, 2009 09:57 AM
There is something called discipline, on and off the field, which the juniors are yet to imbibe and which we see in Sachin even after 20 years of cricket.
Have u seen the news item where after the hyderabad defeat dhoni, yuvi, sehwag, harbhajan, kohli and nehra were seen partying with wine and women ? would u say the occasion was apt for that ? does it send the correct signal to youngsters ? do u think kohli and the rest will take their matches seriously if they are partying after a defeat in which their contribution was nil ?
Many questions need to be answered instead of baying for Sachin's blood.
we lacked in the feilding and bowling the team means 11player no team sprit and the feilding standard has been on the poor side the aussie were standing everywhere where we hit for runs they had fight sprit and they had feild level above par what happen suddenly this is big question it look like either or dhoni and raina played well in the entire series yuviraj did not play properly we need them play well and more consistence in bowling and feilding is required when need stop all balls and try to create pressure but till today we could not try to apply pressure on the aussie to make mistake instead lossing wicket at regular interval why ? this is big uestion whre all player should rewind the memories of commomwealth bank 2008 and see what have they done there and waht is missing element in this series and selector should sensible in picking kaif now he is capable player for india why they are negelcting him till now
Re: Wadekar never scored a century in test
by blaine david on Nov 11, 2009 11:07 PM
He also learnt it from Sachin Tendulkar, but then it ws too late for him..so now he is advising the youngsters.
Most of the advise comes free...so take it or leave it..ha ha ha..
Re: Wadekar never scored a century in test
by sanath on Nov 12, 2009 09:24 AM
he never scored a century, but India won their first test abroad under his captaincy, and also India saw a turnaround in the early 1990s when he was the manager.
I guess u r one of those teenagers who dont know much about what happened before Dhoni or Yuvraj came onto the scene; so I wont find fault with u. Read something about cricket, will improve ur knowledge.
Now dont blame Sachin for his current failures if any, look at the guy for his past and his current enthu... look at him and learn to play slow or agressive based on the bowlers and pitch,hitting blindly and making 40 runs is not going to build team and may be some guys feel good watching a faster innings. Learn from Sachin Sachin Sachin, and he is going to be there with you for just 15 odd months only...
Re: Guys
by aurigo auri on Nov 11, 2009 08:35 PM
No doubt sachin is great player , but in the current series , he could not able to deliver apart from that 175 innings
Re: Re: Guys
by Vijay V on Nov 11, 2009 10:12 PM
Aurigo, Please help me understand . . . which other player anywhere near wht he did . . in the recently concluded series ?
Re: Re: Re: Guys
by suresh R on Nov 12, 2009 06:23 AM
I can make you understand this. The reason aurigo auri says this is because they are comparing other players with sachin tendulkar as the bench mark in this series.
Re: Re: Re: Guys
by VASUDEVAN V on Nov 12, 2009 09:16 AM
Mr.Vijay: Dhoni won the second one dayer with his bat, Yuvraj the third with his bat with support from Dhoni. Tendulkar played that brilliant knock of 175, but threw it all away when India was just shy of 19 runs of 18 balls. As the most experienced international cricketer, he should have carried India to a win and the series would have been drawn 3-3. And, remove Sachin's single innings of 175 and you are left with just 90 runs off the 5 other innings. You give Virat Kohli an occasional chance and expect him to come good in pressure situations, even while a Sachin is not blamed by any one even when he throws away a match from a winning position with a stupid shot. Of course, how can you blame Sachin! Isn't he the God of Indian cricket!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Guys
by sanath on Nov 12, 2009 09:26 AM
Virat Kohli - occasional chance ?????? ask ur cable operator to telecast all matches and then u will see how many chances he has been given !
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Guys
by VASUDEVAN V on Nov 12, 2009 09:48 AM
Mr.Sanath, chances should be given continuously, not a game here and a game there and then see the total number of games he has played. How many matches he played in this series itself? Come on Sanath, be more pragmatic!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Guys
by HelloIndia on Nov 12, 2009 09:49 AM
Here Vasudevan is correct, the situation does not demands such a poor shot from an experienced player. He could have very well rotated the strike, that would have given him and also India one of the greatest victory by chacing down a big target. he brought so near but let down the team at the end. What Mr. Vasudevan has mentioned is absolutely right. Even the whole nation would have rejoiced with that victory, every one expected he would sail through the team till the end. Fortunately that day he was not suffering from cramps too, but it is purely a mistake made by an experienced player.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Guys
by AAMIR on Nov 12, 2009 09:44 AM
I think you have a soft heart for Virat Kohli i dont know which stupid has selected him in the squad, he should not be even in the Ranji.........
