This match india has to win so that inida will be world number one in the ranking. So indian has to plan accordingly. We don't have the two great batsman like Seghav and Gautham. Both are good players. Let's hope with the best. We have decent score. We can win very easy.....this match is depends on first batting....
Re: Victory
by manoj krishnamachar on Nov 02, 2009 09:56 AM
again I say if India achieves number 1 ranking by winning a tournament ,then it is more creditable than by winning a one day series! Look at aussies ,they know how to peak at the RIGHT TOURNAMENT! India has to achieve this to be called a champion team!
Re: Re: Victory
by s mumbai on Nov 02, 2009 10:13 AM
india may win this series but are now getting the tag of chokers in major tourneys involving all icc teams...
Re: Re: Re: Victory
by Ganesh Narasimhan on Nov 02, 2009 11:50 AM
Chokers Tag are given for team performing badly in the important Match. But i see we are performing badly even in the first round Match and getting out in the first round itself. We are consistently Failing in the firs round (exception 20-20 in 2007)I think we won that because we never had any expectation (for a change evryone expected we would come back in the first round).
since it is temporary! also what is noticable is that India usually achieves this ranking in say some bilateral series! If they can win a tournament and come up the number 1 ranking then that is more creditable! If you notice Aussies may well lose this series but they peak at the right time for major tournaments like WC/CL and win them Indians have to achive this milestone,then they can well and truely be called world number 1!!
Re: Re: Re: fair and good looking
by s mumbai on Nov 02, 2009 09:52 AM
sachin is like manisha koirala...she is more worth than the likes of lara,genelia,etc
Re: fair and good looking
by Forrest Gump on Nov 02, 2009 09:50 AM
if that was the case srinath or sivaramakrishnan would never have made the indian team...stop your useless nonsense.
Sachin is run getter but not match winner...his stats speaks hardly he has won 10 percent of his total innings for india are match winning innings...45 out of 450 which means only 1 in 10 matches....so watch 1 match and rest 9 matches to see him performing...where as people like gilchrist,duminy,lara,bravo etc have high percentage which goes upto 1 in every 3 or 4 matches they win on thier performances...In india there is more hype publicity than performance based publicity
Re: Sachin is run-getter but not match winner
by Against Pseudos on Nov 02, 2009 10:36 AM
Bhanu Prakash
Thank you for sharing the excellent statistics.
So you mean to say that Lara, Gilly and Duminy have won 25% of their matches. Very poor show considering that they failed in 75% of their matches. I think Federer is far superior in terms of win percentage. Don't you agree?... :)
Re: Re: Sachin is run-getter but not match winner
by Rekha Gopalan on Nov 02, 2009 11:01 AM
Hey,
I am a fan of Sachin and am greater lover of cricket.
Sachin no doubt is a great player but as to winnablity - he is not the best.
The players to whom he is compared to certainly ran better.
Yes Gilly, Lara and others have failed in 75%, but tell me one thing?
how many centuries has Sachin scored against the major teams (not Holland, Kenya, Zim, Bangla...) outside of Asia that have resulted in victories for India.
If my memory serves me right it is only 1 (one) the first century he scored against Aus in Aus recently.
His dominance and insistence to open the innings in ODI and rigidity not to open in Tests to show his technique in poor light.
For ex - Dada, Dravid, VVS and others have opened in Tests but Sachin never opened - where in Tests oopening bowlers are not stifled by the fielding restrictions and go all out dismiss the batsman.
Tell me the nr of times Sachin has been able to bat beyond the 40, 45th overs in ODI. If he is a innings constructor, he should last 35 overs consistently which he has not.
Were to claim himself to be a blazer in the mould of Gilly, jays or afridi, he should have had a massive strike rate which he does not possess.
Sachin can be classified at best to be a 45/50 of 37/40 balls opener.
Re: Sachin is run-getter but not match winner
by Forrest Gump on Nov 02, 2009 09:47 AM
in fact he has maximum greater than 50 knocks that resulted in an India win among all Indian players...take your nonsense somewhere else...nincompoop.
Re: Sachin is run-getter but not match winner
by Global on Nov 02, 2009 09:29 AM
sachin survived so far in circ team due to marathi dominance in team selection procedure. He is just a good player definately not the best one...there a whole bunch of other players who are better than him.
Re: Re: Sachin is run-getter but not match winner
by Against Pseudos on Nov 02, 2009 10:38 AM
Global
I am glad to see that Marathi dominance is so powerful that it scored 138 in the Tri series final; Marathi dominance scored a blazing 163 n.o. against NZ in NZ.. I think we need more Marathi dominance from Raina, Yuvi etc. too... :)
BTW, Dhoni has just found his Marathi dominance and he blazed a 124 in the second match of this Aussies series. So Bravo! for Marathi dominance... great job!!.... :)
Re: Re: Sachin is run-getter but not match winner
by cricketcricket on Nov 02, 2009 09:33 AM
shall i know those bunch of players list....If ur watching cricket because of him.......
Re: Re: Sachin is run-getter but not match winner
by s mumbai on Nov 02, 2009 09:39 AM
a typical moron comment... some players have made their mark irrespective of their place of birth...north has never produced a player even half of calibre of sachin and hence jealous..they say kapil but we know what manoj prabhakar said about kapil..a bookie..
Re: Sachin is run-getter but not match winner
by sandeep g on Nov 02, 2009 09:52 AM
Use common sense dude.Dont look at the stats.It is a team game.What other players have done when tendulkar plays or does not play.If you look at 1996 , 1999 and 2003 world cup, you could see india has done a tremrdous progress just because of sachin tendulkar.How many test matches he has won for india.How many match he saved for india.Still he is a back bone of indian cricket.Whenever he is there in the game, opponent team still scared of him.He is called god of cricket and he remain so.
Re: Re: Sachin is run-getter but not match winner
by bhanu prakash on Nov 02, 2009 10:01 AM
You just dont play the game to do tremendously and end on loosing side....ofcourse everyone wants to win..look at australia from 96 to 2008 they hardly lost a match or a series that doesnt means they kept people cemented coz they are not losing...they sacked waugh brothers, bevan , gilly n hayden forced to retire just to make way for younger blood...they dint sit like we sit that if sachin goes we cant find a replacement...no one can replace gilchrist but that doesnt means he will cement n play for 50 years..we all can see he still plays in IPL but australians think for their country and we indians think for money
Re: Re: Re: Sachin is run-getter but not match winner
by cricketcricket on Nov 02, 2009 10:05 AM
What and all players having in IPL..What yusaf pathan did...Yusaf pathan is big hitter in IPL but he didnt crossed even 10 runs...No use for IPL players..Sachin know when he will go retire......Could you please tell who is going to replace little master..I guess no body in world cricket also///
Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin is run-getter but not match winner
by bhanu prakash on Nov 02, 2009 10:08 AM
Can you tell who could have ever replaced gilchirst, shane warne ,brian lara, steve waugh, mark waugh, glenn mcgrath, matthew hayden....but still they retired
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin is run-getter but not match winner
by cricketcricket on Nov 02, 2009 10:29 AM
Aus having good players like gilly,steve or mach...India nobody here to replace sachin...After gilly watson game,after mach johnson game,after steve mical clark came and after hyden hopes came....
In india we given enough chance to Yusaf,rohith,karthik..ok.Yusuf scored five 100's and rohith scored three 100's?????????????????????????
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin is run-getter but not match winner
by sandeep g on Nov 02, 2009 10:17 AM
Every player knows when to retire. I believe Sachin is still an importnat player.Whenever India tours abroad you will realize his importance.
There was a time when Tendulkar was cut above the rest of the players in world and India alike. Today, Tendulkar is still the best among the current lot of Indian players but no more the best in the world. He is no more the supreme batsman which bowlders around the world feared. Today its more of a question of bowlers respecting him than fearing him. Virender Sehwag is probably more feared by bowlers than Sachin at the moment.
My feeling is Tendulkar will perform reasonably ok in world cup but still India will not be able to win the world cup. The best opportunity we had were between the three WCs from 1996 - 2003 when Tendulkar was in peak form and fitness. A half fit Tendulkar is still better than rest of the Indian players but sadly thats not sufficient to win the world cup.
Re: Re: world cup?
by premraja on Nov 02, 2009 09:12 AM
ganguly today says must bat first to win against aussies. sadly he did the reverse in the world cup finals in 2003
Re: Re: Re: world cup?
by Vijayan on Nov 02, 2009 11:32 AM
Again a stupid point of 2003 finals - that time Aussies were far far superior than any team in the World, even if India batted first what they did in the league stage and got skittled out for 125 and Aussies won it easily. So decision of batting second was not wrong as propagated by the South Indian media ..... Ganguly was was by far the best cricket brain India had but unfortunately not lucky as Kapil so Aussies didnot choke in 2003 finals like West Indies in 1983 finals.
Re: world cup?
by Forrest Gump on Nov 02, 2009 09:48 AM
don't try to predict what will happen in next world cup...do u go into an office project thinking it will fail? stop your pessimistic nonsense and spare the whole lot of us.
We indians have the tendencies overdoing everything. Lets see the situation on ground and go thru it. Dont expect too much of anything and of anyone including your own family members. Ofcourse media works for their own TRPs. Take evrything in stride. Win or lose part of the game.
Re: low talent high opportunity...
by premraja on Nov 02, 2009 09:14 AM
you are right. there are much better batsmen in the reserve than virat kohli but our selectors are obssesed with him. I for one would like another opportunity to go for Robin Uthappa
Re: low talent high opportunity...
by cricketcricket on Nov 02, 2009 08:59 AM
Because of dhoni..He not like dinish in number11 team.....Karthik is good wicket keeper and batsman....
Present team is a good team capable of winning matches. but not the best one. drawbacks are lack of genuine allrounders, not big hitting person in no 7. we need pathan brothers who r match winners
Re: Present Team
by premraja on Nov 02, 2009 09:15 AM
yes yusuf should have been continued in squadat least. he is surely a better member to have than virat kohli
