Hahaha. Dyson has admitted his mistake. Still all the fools are balaming Duckworth-Lewis method. Nobody asked Dyson to calculate the target by himself. Instead he was given the chart. If he cannot understand that it is his mistake.
Re: Mistake admitted
by India on Mar 21, 2009 03:52 PM
I am still puzzled as to how such a mistake could happen. Didn't the umpires or the referree tell Dyson about the situation at aleast to correct Dyson. What were the West Indian captain and players doing? Had they gone to sleep? This is absolutely stupid unless the match was fixed. Something smells very fishy. It has to be investigated by people responsible in West Indies board if there any left.
Re: Re: Mistake admitted
by gautam gurnurkar on Mar 21, 2009 09:43 PM
The umpires and match refrees are neutrals. they are not supoosed to tell the coach what to do and what not. plus, they sit/stand at different places on the ground. the decision to call players back is totally upto the coach and captain. yes, the captain is also to blame. nothing was fixed. its just a freakish human blunder.
Re: Re: Mistake admitted
by gautam gurnurkar on Mar 21, 2009 09:44 PM
The umpires and match refrees are neutrals. they are not supoosed to tell the coach what to do and what not. plus, they sit/stand at different places on the ground. the decision to call players back is totally upto the coach and captain. yes, the captain is also to blame. nothing was fixed. its just a freakish human blunder.
Re: Re: Mistake admitted
by gautam gurnurkar on Mar 21, 2009 09:47 PM
The umpires and match refrees are neutrals. they are not supoosed to tell the coach what to do and what not. plus, they sit/stand at different places on the ground. the decision to call players back is totally upto the coach and captain. yes, the captain is also to blame. nothing was fixed. its just a freakish human blunder.
Re: A TOSS IS BETTER THAN DL METHOD
by rajendra mathur on Mar 21, 2009 12:19 PM
suggest D/L method should be applied at predetermined stages and targets given after 25 or 30 or 35 etc overs (that is after a bunch of 5 overs) and not after each over & each fall of wicket and umpires should implement it that way only. Say if rain stopa play after 47 overs only 45 over innnings should be considered for decision. That way teams will have simpler tables, fewer numbers less confusion to deal with and have clearer strtegy for 5 overs and batsmen need not check again & again
Re: VERY FUNNY dl method
by prakash mohanasundaram on Mar 22, 2009 03:23 PM
Its not as bad as you say, it just requires some understanding, tis the bestmethod available right now.
What happened last night was bizzare as far as the way the WI coach called the batsmen back thinking they were ahead and they lost.
Anyways i came across this unique record of Chanderpaul, here is it. ======================= He is one of only three players to score half-centuries in seven consecutive Test innings. He is currently the third highest run scorer for the West Indies with over 8,500 Test runs and he is the one of only four batsmen to have averaged more than 100 in two different calendar years – the only one other than Sir Donald Bradman to do so in consecutive years. He is one of only six players to have gone 1,000 minutes in Test cricket without conceding his wicket. He has done this four times, and is the only player to have done so more than once. ======================= Courtsey caribbeannetnews.com/news-15098--8-8--.html
Re: Chanderpaul's unique record
by Abdulla Mukadam on Mar 21, 2009 11:43 AM
And also the only batsman in the history of Test cricket to have faced 1,000 consecutive balls without getting out.
Re: Re: Chanderpaul's unique record
by Ganesh on Mar 21, 2009 12:12 PM
he may have done a lot, at the same time Windies didn't win so many matches during this record sequence. what a pity.
Re: bad luck
by narayanswamy nagarajan on Mar 21, 2009 12:34 PM
Its good luck for England, 'cause thats how they can win matches now. England re now a "washed-out" team
Re: bad luck
by baskar raju on Mar 21, 2009 11:35 AM
its an error & D/l can not be carried in their mind while batsmen where in the crease for 50 overs match
ICC always creates confusion with their systems implemntation. It shoud be the Umpire's duty on & off the field to brief the teams about their respective position at the time of held-up befor calling off the play. In that case boh team will have a fair knowledge of the present scenario and they can take their course of action accordingly.
Same is the case with review. In some matches are implied while in others not alowed. What a rubbish?
Same again was with Super Sub. When ICC saw that Indian team was most benefited immediately they scraped out the same.
Again with chucking. Degree view is pure rubbish of the arm.
Re: D & L Method.
by Kayko Boloon on Mar 21, 2009 11:18 AM
come on kumar chakraborthy. both teams are handed the D/L sheet before hand. it has a tabular format with all details of where each team should be if the D/L system is called into play. if windies can't understand simple english, they need to first go to school then before starting to play. they were just dumb, that's all. its not rocket science. if Dyson didn't realize they were 7 wickets down and not 6, then maybe he should have been watching his team play rather than trying to fix up a date for the night.
Re: D & L Method.
by rajendra mathur on Mar 21, 2009 12:01 PM
I suggest D/L method should be applied at predetermined stages and targets given after 25 or 30 or 35 etc overs (that is after a bunch of 5 overs) and not after each over & each fall of wicket and umpires should implement it that way only. Say if rain stopa play after 47 overs only 45 over innnings should be considered for decision. That way teams will have simpler tables, fewer numbers less confusion to deal with and have clearer strtegy for 5 overs and batsmen need not check again & again.
Please do not blame Dyson. Indeed, how many players or coaches of the world are adept at arithmetic? I often think that these days the ODI cricketers and their coaches have to be mucg better at arithmetic compared to the Maths teachers at schools worldwide. So, how about appointing a Maths teacher for every ODI team? That way, such errors might not be repeated!
Re: Oh, Dyson .....
by Kayko Boloon on Mar 21, 2009 11:20 AM
arithmatic? what are you talking about? its a simple table which indicates where a team should be at each wicket. that's all. just teach a 12 year old to take a ruler and mark it out and he will do it for u. dont need to have a mathematics or arithmatic masters degree to figure it out. and if dyson couldn't figure it out, he shouldn't have taken up team management; or should have hired an accountant.
Re: Re: Oh, Dyson .....
by hitde on Mar 21, 2009 11:46 AM
Mr Boloon, it seems you are excellent at maths so you are advocating on behalf of ICC, otherwise calculation is not that simple as you are advocating.
