Its a pity that Sachin was born in this stupid country. He should have been born in a more deserving country like Australia or some. Atleast the Australians don't criticize their cricketeers even when they perform. Sachin has spoilt us to be honest --- remember the days when all that we used to pray was not to lose badly against all teams. this guy ( Sachin) comes along , singlehandedly pulls india from rock bottom to a cricket powerhouse, Inspires millions and electrifies everyone, inspires the budding cricketeers to scale new heights and what we give to him ?
GOD INDIA SUCKS ... we deserve to be treated as third class citizens in developed countries.
Re: Stop Underestimation Sachins Contribution
by ghost on Mar 09, 2009 11:23 AM
boss in aus all greats are behaing as a common player . see what happened with
steve waugh,mathew hayden,d.martin,m.bevan etc etc
Re: Re: Stop Underestimation Sachins Contribution
by Sameer on Mar 09, 2009 11:27 AM
1st of all -- do realise that all these great aussie players always had great team mates to help them out . So pressure in Aussie team was much lower than Pressure to perform in indian team. Secondly Damien martyn wasn't a great batsmen in any form , neither was Bevan -- yeah he was good initially, but then being not out with a strike rate of 50 something in ODI is nothing to flaunt about.
Re: Re: Re: Stop Underestimation Sachins Contribution
by ghost on Mar 09, 2009 11:31 AM
u r having a poor cricket knowledge. go and cheak their profile... if the whole world is saying that bevan was the best finisher then no use of ur comment..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop Underestimation Sachins Contribution
by Sameer on Mar 09, 2009 11:36 AM
abhe ... where are you ? Bevan was the best finisher for most part of his career. His strike rate towards the end of his career was in the 50's . trust me , I am far superior to you when it comes to records
Re: Stop Underestimation Sachins Contribution
by ram kumar on Mar 09, 2009 11:26 AM
IF he was born in AUS,they wd have made him retire long time back.it is bcos on india hes been seen as a GOD and been playing crikcet for 20 years.yes hes undoubtedly the best batsmen
Re: Re: Stop Underestimation Sachins Contribution
by Sameer on Mar 09, 2009 11:30 AM
read mesaage above -- had tendy been in australia -- his avg would have been way over the top -- i bet his test avg would be in mid 60's and ODI avg in 50's. Secondly , hayden hadn't been performing very well in the past 2 years. Same with Steve Waugh- his performances were patchy towards the end of his career. Third -- a human will perform better if there is less pressure and expectations; So imagine tendulkar playing in a team that has great batsmen n bowlers and not have to contend with 10 players depending on him on field and a billion people depending on him off field
when we chase a score of around 350. this can be the norm in wc 2011 in subcontinent where flat pithces are common. in fact in lanka we floundered chaing 330 plus in last ODI.
batting is great fine..but bowling is weak link. that is why we lost wc 2003. in subcontinent flats pitches for wc 2011, even great line up cannot hide poor show of bowlers.
Re: sachin says..
by Anurag Rathore on Mar 09, 2009 11:25 AM
Every team bowlers will struggle in subcontinent. Like P.Siddle, M.Johnson who are doing great against SA but struggled in India.
Re: Re: sachin says..
by ram kumar on Mar 09, 2009 11:28 AM
johnson and siddle wd mature by the time WC arrives.johnson will be the future of AUS cricket.they tend to learn frm mistakes.the nxt tour to subcontinent they will b much much beter than wat they r right nw.
Re: sachin says..
by Sameer on Mar 09, 2009 11:16 AM
Bowling has always been the weak link . besides kapil dev and Anil Kumble name proven world class bowlers we have had in the past 20 years
Re: Re: sachin says..
by Harish Iyer on Mar 09, 2009 11:19 AM
so forget winning world cup. we need a good attack, just batting shall not bail out everytime. our fielding is also poor. dhoni dropped a sitter off munaf, yousuf dropped one.
Re: Re: Re: sachin says..
by Sameer on Mar 09, 2009 11:24 AM
DUDE BOWLERS WIN MATCHES -- not batsmen. A bowler can make 6 mistakes and get away with it . A batsman makes one mistake and he gets out. A good bowler is always better than a great batsman. IF you are facing a team with great bowlers-- may god save you.
Dhoni has a long long way to go and prove himself in tests b4 hes called one of the succesful indian captains.as of nw Ganguly is the most successful captain indian team had.theres lot of diff between gud captain and successful capatin.gud captian need nt be successful.Dhoni is a gud captain,ganguly was a successful capatin.if dhoni can prove himself for some more years,he can b in the list of successful captains
Re: Ganguly and dravid better captains in tests.dhoni in ODIssss
by ghost on Mar 09, 2009 11:17 AM
now i can say dhoni is a better ODI captain and also a grtt match winner and finisher after bevan.
Re: Re: Ganguly and dravid better captains in tests.dhoni in ODIs
by ram kumar on Mar 09, 2009 11:19 AM
yes in ODI.but the real tests lies in test matches especially abroad
Re: Ganguly and dravid better captains in tests.dhoni in ODIssss
by anaida raza on Mar 09, 2009 11:18 AM
Dhoni by long way & Dravid already surpassed him...
Yuvi - 117 off 95 VS SriLanka Yuvi - 138 off 78 VS Eng Yuvi - 103 off 76 VS Eng Yuvi - 107* off 93 VS Pak Yuvi - 103 off 122 VS SA Yuvi - 139 off 122 VS Aus Yuvi - 121 off 115 VS Aus
Dhoni - 183 off 145 VS SriLanka Dhoni - 139* off 87 VS Africa X1 Dhoni - 94 off 96 VS SriLanka Dhoni - 84* off 89 VS NZ Dhoni - 72* off 46 VS Pak Dhoni - 77* off 56 VS Pak
I am not mentioning Sehwag's, Sachin's, Gambhir's and Raina's innings here. List is too long.
Re: After 2002 best ODI innings......
by anaida raza on Mar 09, 2009 11:13 AM
EXIT Ganguly ENTER one good player EQUALS 11 player team and winning combo...
Re: Re: Re: After 2002 best ODI innings......
by ram kumar on Mar 09, 2009 11:16 AM
tht is fine.pls mention the venues(plACE) these runs have been scored
