back up keeper for a 20 over game. totally rubbish logic.
This is Dhoni politics.
Dare if he does all this dirty politics against sachin tendulkar, like he has done against Ganguly, Dravid, Kumble, VVS AND now Sehwag.
Dare you dhoni, you are only a lucky captain with a young talent, mostly nurtured under ganguly's leadership.
You are not even a proper batsman. No Grace, No Class what so ever in your batting. You are just a slogger. You rarely look good when you bat, whenever you do so.
otherwise just an average player, average wicket-keeper, below average batting skills, and a over hyped captain.
Re: Re: AVERAGE DHONI
by murali ramankulath on Jun 10, 2009 03:53 PM
You are absolutely wrong.Dhoni is only an average cricketer but his father's name is "GOD"
Re: AVERAGE DHONI
by manish chakraborty on Jun 10, 2009 03:48 PM
very much true mister... yaa obviuosly great hard hitter of the ball but does not reflect any kind of grace as he bats or keeps. i do support ur opinion, its the indian media that has made up simple Mahendra Singh Dhoni to MAHI....
i think he lacks the " Shadow Practices " that are done at nets in the junior level.
even that Rohit Sharma bats with elegance. he's got the style that cricket has to offer.
Dhoni still to be tested under intense batting conditions where fast bowlers get enough bounce with swing on both ways as well as spinners to be a perfect batsman.
Nowadays fast bowlers lack the skills of Waqar Youinis, Wasim Akram or Azhar Mahmood. they simply depend on bounce and swing ( which rarely effects the batsman), i mean to say making batsman pay in tight bowling conditions or make a match alive with bowling skills from a flat track.
lots to perform DHONI.....
its nothing but premature hype. though not underestimating his role in some important matches.... but not as much as being hyped by INDIAN Media and people.
Re: Re: AVERAGE DHONI
by murali ramankulath on Jun 10, 2009 03:59 PM
Are you Pakistani idiot?Zaheer and Ishant are far better than Azhar Mahmood and is as dangerous as Wasim and Waquar.
For all the bickering of Sehwag fans, they have to understand that he is not in the best of form. You cant expect Sehwag to get his form back during a match in 20 20. Because every ball is crucial and the match changes within a few overs. If he plays an innings of 30 off 35 balls, the match may well be over against teams like West Indies or England. I think it's a good decision to drop Viru if his form was the consideration. It may also have been an injury and the media may have been trying to twist it out of context. Anyway, India is well off without Sehwag at the moment. Granted he is a legend and he will be back.
Re: Good for India
by shaikhhamid on Jun 10, 2009 03:18 PM
kaushik
all accepted but i am 100% sure that sehwag will never play an innings of 30 of 35 balls.....yes dhoni can do that and we have seen that in the last match against bangladesh 26 of 20 balls.....
Re: Re: Good for India
by kaushik on Jun 10, 2009 03:23 PM
One would have thought the same about Gambhir but he scored a slow 50 off 46 balls against Bangladesh almost costing the match. If it wasnt for Yuvraj's quick cameo, it would have been tough for India.
Re: Re: Re: Good for India
by shaikhhamid on Jun 10, 2009 03:42 PM
kaushik
gambhir was opener and dhoni came up the order at no.3 and when gambhir is already playing anchor role why dhoni try to do the same thing ????
if u watch indias openers gambhir now a days plays second role to rohit, as rohit take the attack on himself and gambhir give him support by rotating strike.....
Re: Re: Re: Re: Good for India
by shaikhhamid on Jun 10, 2009 03:46 PM
kaushik
just imagine istead of dhoni if raina would have came at his usual no.3 position the score would have crossed 200 runs....it was yuvi heroics which gave us that extra 30 runs....
Re: Order of batting...
by shaikhhamid on Jun 10, 2009 03:21 PM
replace RP with Parveen kumar....i think he has variety and he will be a good choice in death overs....
where as we have seen RP been smashed by James Franklin (NZ) in the last overs....
Re: Re: Order of batting...
by C W on Jun 10, 2009 03:26 PM
Good point Shaikh. I too feel Praveen as a better choice during slog overs. He bowls yorkers well and his slow balls are very well disguised.
Re: Order of batting...
by karan johari on Jun 10, 2009 03:11 PM
keep dhoni at no 8..this is t twenty cricket..dhoni will come and waste all the balls by taking chikky singles..he has lost the skill midst of the captaincy burdens..he is no longer the attacking, explosive batsmen..
Re: Re: Order of batting...
by C W on Jun 10, 2009 03:29 PM
I don't think we can drag Dhoni below Pathan coz we all should admit that this guy has once proved his power. Its true that he has not had a massive innings of late, but this guy can be disaster for the opponent team if it was his day. C'mon its just a matter of time. I feel Irfan can wait till Dhoni returns to the pavillion.
I dont know why our media is very critical of Indian team. just see the initial sentences " after the upset win over bangaldesh"!!!! Just goes to show that media is so critical of Indian team whom we should accept as composed of most talented young players. They may under perform thats another matter
Re: Indian team
by Ravi Iyer on Jun 10, 2009 03:22 PM
I think you misunderstood the "upset win over Bangla". That was meant for Ireland's upset win over them. Please read the original sentence again in the context of this.
trully speaking india dosent have the potential suitable for this ground conditions,,,teams like south africa newzealand deserve it..as they can defend the lowest target with their accurate bowling...n fielding..which we really dont have...technically india lacks a lot.....
Re: India dosent have the caliber
by param on Jun 10, 2009 03:40 PM
dear friend for your information we hav d bast opening fast boweling attack..and spin boweling...we can also defend small total..as we did in d past.
Re: Was'nt Manish Pandey a better option
by param on Jun 10, 2009 03:02 PM
definatly not..bcoz my friend dinesh kartik is a weeket keepar batsmen he can b use as w-keepar at any time...as well as he had a good ipl.
Re: Was'nt Manish Pandey a better option
by B M on Jun 10, 2009 03:04 PM
Dinesh Kartik is becoming another Ajit Agarkar with his continued mysterious presence in the team in spite of non-performance at the international level!
Re: Re: Was'nt Manish Pandey a better option
by C W on Jun 10, 2009 03:09 PM
Yes, since he is from TN, he needs to perform in every match to retain his place. If he was from Maharashtra, or Bengaluru or Bengal he can have a lean patch but still retain the position.
Re: Re: Re: Was'nt Manish Pandey a better option
by B M on Jun 10, 2009 03:11 PM
Who says TN players have to perform? On the contrary, Karthik manages to make it to the team inspite of being a superflop at the international level!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Was'nt Manish Pandey a better option
by C W on Jun 10, 2009 03:19 PM
He did well in IPL and hence been called. He is the highest Indian run scorer in IPL. And am sure he will hardly get a chance in the 11 for this world cup. Even if he gets, he has to perform every single match else he will be noticed and cornered by every part of India since TN players are easy targets.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Was'nt Manish Pandey a better option
by B M on Jun 10, 2009 03:30 PM
IPL is not an international level competition. Most of the players involved are Indians!
No backup keeper in the team.if someone not perform in the opening, dhoni will open the bat and dinesh karthik will be keeper......dhoni has something in his mind.
Re: Dhoni is greate politician
by vijay M on Jun 10, 2009 02:57 PM
I dont think Gambhir is in form. Even during the IPL, he failed in most of the matches and scored very slowly in the rest. I dont think India can afford to have Gambhir play a slow knock like the other day against Bangladesh. It may cost the match for us. I think Gambhir should be replaced at least for this cup by Raina or Karthik and continued for the next ODI or Test series where he can get his form back. ODI mentality should go out of the window and the team should play the players in the best of form. That's the mantra of T20.
Re: Re: Dhoni is greate politician
by param on Jun 10, 2009 03:08 PM
i dont think that gambhir should b replace bcoz he is a good batsmen..an abot d knock he played against d bangladesh i will like to tell that he played an important inning bcoz som i has to stay at one end...and 2 play big shots we hav players like yuvraj,raina,yousuf....
Re: Dhoni is greate politician
by Guest on Jun 10, 2009 03:35 PM
Sehwag is a treat to watch.He is never out of form in this format of cricket.We shall be missing him badly on the field.Wish he recovers fast from the shoulder injury.
Re: India wary of Irish treat
by param on Jun 10, 2009 03:11 PM
i am nor agree with this team combination i think we should play 3 seemers insted of playing 2 speeners....bcoz we hav options like yuvraj,rohit,yousuf...and i think u can call them specilist speeners at least to yousuf.
in T20 it is normal some teams underperform . so on a day like that india can easily lose. it is just a fluke game,full of luck. so anythig can happen. evnen ireland can lift the trophy
Re: fluke game, unpredictable totaly.
by wizardo id on Jun 10, 2009 02:55 PM
yeah - but a team cant fluke its way through to a win. they need to win few more of matches before they can lift the trophy.
Re: fluke game, unpredictable totaly.
by param on Jun 10, 2009 03:13 PM
i dont understand how can som1 think like that...i am not agree with ur thought...soory friend...but never share ur thought with any1 ....at least in india
Re: fluke game, unpredictable totaly.
by vijay M on Jun 10, 2009 03:02 PM
T20 is not exactly a fluke. It's street smart cricket. The team which has more talent or skill doesnt necessarily win but the team which takes more risks and plays well on the given day will win. It's more of a leveller because in a Test, no matter how well you play if you are not talented or skillful enough you will never win. Bangladesh will probably never beat Australia in a test but in T20, if everything clicks they have a great chance.
