Re: What will be Ashes's Result
by amianiceguy on Jul 19, 2009 03:43 PM
Whoever wins this test match. But the Australians will not let the Ashes Trophy go from their hands.
- Ricky Ponting- Aus - Sourav Gaunguly- Ind - Clive Lyyod - West Indies - Michal Waughan- Eng - Steve Waugh- Aus - Kumar Sangkara- Sri Lanka - Gream Smith- South Africa - S Fleming- New Zealand - Allen Border- Aus and - Mohd. Azharuddin- India -
Re: Top 10 Skipper ever in the history of Test Cricket
by Anil Menon on Jul 19, 2009 12:15 PM
All OK, except Mohd Azharuddin and Ricky Ponting - former match fixer, liar, and latter the cheater
Re: Top 10 Skipper ever in the history of Test Cricket
by Hindustani on Jul 19, 2009 12:10 PM
Ricky Ponting sucks as a captain. Mohm Azharuddin was better as a match fixer.
Re: Top 10 Skipper ever in the history of Test Cricket
by Guru Tugginmypudha on Jul 19, 2009 12:20 PM
thats not history, what youve mentioned is recent past, the best captain ever was Rod Laver (you know him?)
Re: Re: Top 10 Skipper ever in the history of Test Cricket
by Bhavik Shankar on Jul 19, 2009 12:56 PM
yes is was a great tennis player i can sse your logic wise one.
Re: Top 10 Skipper ever in the history of Test Cricket
by Jay on Jul 19, 2009 02:03 PM
Every country had at least one good captain. For India, Ganguly deserves to be there, but Kapil should also be there rather than Azhar. Many people do not give the deserving credit to Kapil. India who had lost to all Test Playing nations and even to SL till 1979 were turned into a world champion by 1983. During 1983-87 India had many good performances. First overseas Test series win after 1971 came in 1986 and also Aus escaped with a drawn series in Aus, thanks to their home umpires. Kapil lost captaincy after loss in 1987 World Cup semis. His overall positive approach was impressive and made India a strong team in ODIs. For Aus, Ian Chappel and Mark Taylor are always better captains than Ponting. For Eng, Mike Brearley was an outstanding captain, none else in recent past.
Re: Top 10 Skipper ever in the history of Test Cricket
by msgblogger on Jul 19, 2009 12:53 PM
Dude Viv Richards never lost a series and I dont find him in ur list.But you have lesser mortals like sanga/ponting/vaughn etc
Re: Re: Top 10 Skipper ever in the history of Test Cricket
by msgblogger on Jul 19, 2009 01:12 PM
Bhavik ..i guess Saurav deserves to be there.He has been a path breaker in terms of the team attitude.Well he was not a batting great as he is made out to be.
Re: Top 10 Skipper ever in the history of Test Cricket
by ASHISH KUMAR on Jul 19, 2009 01:42 PM
captain doen't have more than 5% role in cricket win. Matches are won by great players & match winners.Same captain ponting start lossing once he lost his great match winning players. in past ponting had record of winning 16 consecutive test matches. Dada & dhobi are simply overhyped for nothing though i admit dhobi is bigger politicain than dada.Dada was better batsman than dhobi on indian wickets. On seaming pitches, both can't play.Dhobi is a good manipulator.
Re: Re: Top 10 Skipper ever in the history of Test Cricket
by sachin on Jul 19, 2009 02:46 PM
then why not sachin become the captain. dont he have the guts to handle atleast 5% responsibility. GO AND HAND UR SELF TO MY BALLS
Re: Agarkar is more result oriented
by Vishwanathan Anand on Jul 19, 2009 12:05 PM
cudnt agree with u more... but u fogot arshad aayub, arunlal and W. raman
Re: Re: Agarkar is more result oriented
by Guru Tugginmypudha on Jul 19, 2009 12:22 PM
smells of sarcasm, sachin would be sachin without arshad ayubs, araunlal and sapad ramans
I dont know what do channels get in bashing sachin, yesterday for no reason star news started the debate of greatness again. "kya sachin don aur lara ki league me hai?" etc. These guys get up and start bashing him without realizing his greatness and without taking help of figures, they dont even look at the differance of 50 yrs. betn. sachin and DON. I feel we we all shouldnt miss watching sachin live(may be only 100 innings left left. Guys – tomorrow you’ll tell ur children that you had seen him playing live - hitting a straight drive or playing paddle sweep.
Anyway for ur records check these facts – In tests he is always compared with the greatest ever – Sir Don – but Sir Don himslef (like “Sir”Lara, Hayden, Warne etc.) said that Sachin was the best he had ever seen. Sachin has scored 11782 in tests, with 35 centuries – these were scored on more than 50 test venues against bradman`s 8. For almost twenty years this guy is travelling, taking pressure of expectation, has kept himself on that level and is still as dedcated, motivated and sincere as he was in 1989. Now add 16361 ODI runs, 154 ODI wickets and 42 test wickets to this - something which bradman doesn’t have against his name – infact nobody in world has to his credit today. Sachin today holds all the important batting records such as the leading Test century scorer, leading ODI century and half-century scorer, one of only three batsmen to surpass 11,000 runs in test cricket, most career ODI runs etc.
Re: sachin - the best ever
by amianiceguy on Jul 19, 2009 03:48 PM
Sachin is a Curse to Indian Team. He has always failed in crucial times, when the team is in need.
Re: sachin - the best ever
by Vishwanathan Anand on Jul 19, 2009 11:55 AM
I am not a blind sachin fan and like u guys even I want him to do better than what he has done in the recent past. If you look at him in totality - talent, skill, dedication, hardwork, sincerety, brilliance and modesty - as a sportsman he is in the league of Mohd. Ali, Rod Lever, Martina and PELE
Re: Re: sachin - the best ever
by ASHISH KUMAR on Jul 19, 2009 01:27 PM
I will also add he has maximum no. of MOM records in international cricket. it clearly siggests that he has won maximum no. of matches for his team in last two decades. Best part is he gives 100% under any captaincy & he doesn't behave like politician ganguly or dhobi who start behaving strangely in other captaincy.
Re: Re: Re: sachin - the best ever
by Ashok Lulla on Jul 19, 2009 02:09 PM
So let me get back to one wonky comment I had posted about a year back, "Sachin, he no know to bat, he no know to bowl, he no know to field, why he in team?" The comment had brought brickbats from quite a few dense posters, who could not see the sarcasm.
Re: Re: Re: Re: sachin - the best ever
by amianiceguy on Jul 19, 2009 03:48 PM
Sachin is a Curse to Indian Team. He has always failed in crucial times, when the team is in need.
Re: Aus is the best
by Vishwanathan Anand on Jul 19, 2009 11:09 AM
was best, isnt close to being best and may take time to become best..... after their retirement of warnie, mcgrath, gilly and the ouster of symonds they look as vulnerable as any team.
Re: Re: Aus is the best
by ASHISH KUMAR on Jul 19, 2009 01:33 PM
same will happen with Indian test team once greats like sachin, dravid, laxman, sehwag etc retire. Cricket match is won only by great players & not by captaincy.Australia is clear example of that. Under ponting captaincy they had record of 16 consecutiuve test wins but now they are not winning under same captainct as all match winner players have retired. Peope in India shold rallized that how overhyped is dada & dhobi captaincy for nothing while actual math winner was always sachin,david,laxman, sehwag, kumble,bhajji, zaheer ec.
Australia miss key players such as Hayden, Symonds, Bret lee, warne, Mc Grath which are very difficult to be replaced. It is these people who won them matches in the past
Re: Australia miss key players
by ASHISH KUMAR on Jul 19, 2009 01:35 PM
Yes in cricket only players win the match & not captain. Our media should stop hyping dhobi captaincy for nothing. Actual match is always won by brilliance of sachin, sehwag,laxman, dravid, zaheer, kumble, bhajii etc.
