Their is something bigger at stake. Our officials had given in writing to commonwealth officials to make Delhi ready for commonwealth games in 2007. Now we know that it has become a big risk. Our corrupt and lazy babus, politicians, beaurocrats, police force - I am just getting sick of it.
Everywhere there is corruption. Registering a house, driving license, passport office, PF withdrawals, police complaints - you name it and there is corruption. God help us to rise against corruption. But who will rise? I am fighting everywhere, but people just like discussing and blaming. Tolerating corruption is also equivalent to making country weak, and we all are corrupt that way. Please stop.
Re: God help Delhi in organising commonwealth games
by partha sarathy on Dec 29, 2009 06:28 AM
True indianji,your cry to stop corruption reach your ears only.An average indian is corrupt.Is the politicians are employed in corporation,EB,RTO and others offices?In general our indians have become hypocrites.They shout that there is corruption everywhere and when they go to their offices, these are the same guys demanding money to do an official job.First the people to be changed then only the corruption can be eradicated.
Re: Re: God help Delhi in organising commonwealth games
by True Indian on Dec 29, 2009 06:40 AM
Thanks Partha for your nice thoughts. We can atleast start using RTI if a job does not get done. Why pay money? It is so simple and it helps fight corruption to some extent.
BCCI is responsible for this shame.. o think sri lanka has over acted on te pitch. we have seen so many pitches of egland and australia doing the same and more over to that australian bowling seems same as the bouncers... with every part of body protected by pads how come sri lanka afraid shame ... the match has to be declared in favour of india
I would strongly recommend BCCI take Chetan Chauhan to a psychiatrist treatment. He is insane. People like him only knows how to put fingers on others instead of looking at their own backyard. If BCCI cannot do this I would be happy to pay for his treatment.
Re: psychiatrist needed
by Raman Shiva on Dec 29, 2009 03:46 AM
Ur so right,if u read the article above he contradicts every statement he makes first he says everyone should be blamed,then he says sorry for making a bad pitch which is not ideal for international game,so then whats the hue and cry about? then its funny he says give us one hour we will prepare a pitch,is it Samosa Chaat that u prepare in one hour?
Re: Re: psychiatrist needed
by Rajesh Jumde on Dec 29, 2009 03:50 AM
Exactly... what the fuss in accpeting the fact.. One should be brave enough to accept that "we did not do anything and spent whole time drinking desi near kota stadium." And I am still amazed why BCCI did not respond to his statements.
Re: Re: Re: psychiatrist needed
by Raman Shiva on Dec 29, 2009 04:04 AM
His excuse of had they given him one more hour he couldve prepared a pitch is like those who supported Kambli for Crying in 1996 semis,i knew some fanatics even told me they robbed Kambli of a chance to take India to WCUP finals,they said he couldve played a Innings of his life time like Inzamams 60 in 1992 semis and beat Srilanka that nite on his own... yea right...India were 120 for 8 and 30 plus overs gone,had 130 more runs to score in 7 an over and Kambli of all people to win the game from there.... I mean how many people still blame his drinking and his marital problems the reason for him losing his place in Team India,they dont realize Kambli was a bad player outside India and was exposed so badly by Windies in 1994 in India itself where he scored like 60 runs in 6 innnings... Its people like Chauhan and he the real disgrace..one main reason i admire Dhoni from day one...he is great
Re: Re: Re: psychiatrist needed
by Raman Shiva on Dec 29, 2009 03:57 AM
I mean think about it,he can prepare the other pitch in one Hour?ive never heard anything as stupid as that?that too from a former player....
Re: Re: Re: Re: psychiatrist needed
by Rajesh Jumde on Dec 29, 2009 04:07 AM
I think Mr. Chauhan mis-understood creating an international pitches is same as that of creating one for this kids. So said it will be ready in 1 hour. I wonder if a pitch which was not prepared for 2 months would be prepared in 1 hr. Idiot!
Re: Re: Re: psychiatrist needed
by Raman Shiva on Dec 29, 2009 04:07 AM
We not only need lion hearted cricketers like Kapil and Dhoni but also good administrators seletors curators..
Re: Re: Re: psychiatrist needed
by Raman Shiva on Dec 29, 2009 04:00 AM
Well BCCI didnt respond because they are using to feed on his lies and stupid excuses and try to keep Kotla as a venue for WCUP 2011,BCCI has tough time accepting the facts themselves,afterall who is BCCI?a thief organization who stole the idea from ICL(who ever the owner was) and created IPL with the help of Lalit Modi..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: psychiatrist needed
by Raman Shiva on Dec 29, 2009 04:24 AM
BCCI is the worst organisation ever.their greed is beyond imagination,its to the credit of the players that they keep playing despite such a tight schedule,Vengsarkar has recently said the players look soo tired,rightly so,if u look at their pictures,their eyes are soo red and it shows they lack good peaceful deep sleep.they are insecure of their places that they cant say they are tired or else they will not be selected again. Krish Srikanth a thief Selects Sreesanth who attended his sons wedding,where is Gavaskar now to question bias there. Shashank Manohar a thief Ratnakar Shetty a thief,all they want is a piece of the pie from IPL,they will fix matches at will as well
Re: Re: Re: psychiatrist needed
by Raman Shiva on Dec 29, 2009 05:37 AM
There u go Against Psuedos starting ur personal attack on me,i do know there are 2 pitches u moron,but still it cant be ready in one hour,u c people like u talk like they r sooooooooo smart by ur sarcasm and everything,all u do is talk the opposite of the truth and most likely possibilities to make urself look unique,dont think by defending moron Chauhan ur gonna be any better than him,ur as stupid as him,its obvious. If i had posted this in a different id u mightve agreed,ur continuing ur attack on me cause of my comments on sachin..u also need some psych help for thinking ur the only one who knows the game..good luck,go and help Chauhan fix the pitch in one hourc
Re: Re: Re: Re: psychiatrist needed
by Against Pseudos on Dec 29, 2009 05:44 AM
ShivaRaman:
Thanks for NOT starting personal attack on me. :)
Any sensible person who reads what I wrote and what YOU wrote will immediately recognize that I am making vicious personal attacks, and you are writing a eulogistic piece praising my efforts. :)
BTW, if this piece was posted by Sachin himself, I would still have responded in the same fashion. :)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: psychiatrist needed
by Lakshmanan Sriram on Dec 29, 2009 06:17 AM
You people forgot that BCCI is the only powerful board which can arm twist ICC to Kotla get away with warning using his money and muscle power and it was for this Chetan was preparing the PITCH. When he talked of preparation of pitch, it is to make ground for BCCI to appeal
Re: psychiatrist needed
by partha sarathy on Dec 29, 2009 06:33 AM
Pl.keep the money for your own treatment.Cricket lovers are maniacs and they need treatment to understand the difference between what is a good sport and what is money spinning activity.
Of late every day Saurav is coming out in praise of one Indian player or the other,i am guessing he wants some post in Team India,maybe a coach
First he said Sehwag is really close to Viv Richards,this after Sehwag credited Gangu of his place in team india,today sehwag says it was Kirsten who revived his career,when are these players ever gonna place the confidence in themselves and stop crediting others for their success,which will also prompt them to blame others when they fail
Then next day u hear Ganguly saying his career prospered under Tendulkar,what a joke,sachin was one of theworst captains and how can he be responsible for his prospering,infact Saurav made his debut under Azhar and played more under Azhars captaincy than Sachins until he took over Plus Saurav had this cold war with Sachin when he was captain and once famously said (those days we kept losing finals after finals and after Chris Cairns beat us in 2000 Champs trophy finals)Saurav said whats the point in scoring 25 odi hundreds when team dont win,that time sachin had 25 odi hundreds..lol...then he even made sachin come 4 down and before 2003 wcup there was a phase when sachin took break after break citing injury,prime example NZL odis in 2002-03 season,so whats all this lovey duvey with Sachin? Then last week u hear Saurav say Gambhir is sooooo cool and good and all that,like we dont know it,so of late he has been talking a lot,im sure his motives must be coach post or something,cause Saurav neve
Re: What do u guys think Saurav is upto
by Raman Shiva on Dec 29, 2009 03:32 AM
cause Saurav never compliments anyone without a reason,he ditched Jaggu Dalmiya when Dalmiya lost power.
Politics and Indian cricket go hand in hand i guess
We will see whats next...but thanks to Dhoni of late the focus is on winning than cheap politics...Dhoni not only leads from front with his great batting but also his calm attitude...
Former India batsman Ajay Jadeja gave a completely different view.
"I am a little surprised that the match was abandoned. I don't think the pitch was that bad so as to warrant an abandonment of the match," he said.
"You could have decided to abandon the match after five overs or so, that is logical. But after playing 23 overs how can you say that the pitch was not fit to play on," he added.
i m not saying whats said is corect. but at the same time, he has also one good point.
Re: opinions of cktrs
by Lotiya Pathan on Dec 29, 2009 09:25 AM
Ajay Jadeja, A son in low of the president of DDCA.. What else you expect from him? He is going to play tune that helps his dad in low..period!!
Isn't Jadeja the one who was accused of match fixing?
Re: opinions of cktrs
by Raman Shiva on Dec 29, 2009 03:42 AM
Look at this statement coming from Chauhan a player who played Test cricket for so long
"We own up the moral responsibility and we don't want to shirk responsibility but the pitch and the ground were prepared according to the instruction of Daljit and his committee. We merely obeyed whatever we were told, for they are the experts and we are not," Chauhan said.
What nonsense,he now sounds as if the pitch was bad and whats worse is he says he has no knowledge on pitch preparation.what a shame?
Re: opinions of cktrs
by Raman Shiva on Dec 29, 2009 03:34 AM
yea good point,comes from a match fixer himself,well the point is Sri Lankans i am guessing mightve been trying hard to play it,they got nothing to loose so they mustve wanted to play it,contrary to what Chauhan says after a series full of losses why should a team be afraid to loose but after soo much hits on the body they mustve realized the pitch was unfit for play I dont know why Dhoni or team management isnt blamed for agreeing to abandon? U can also think they were scared to bat second as well right?
Re: opinions of cktrs
by Raman Shiva on Dec 29, 2009 03:37 AM
Because if u remember even in the Calcutta semis 1996 SLankans kept playing even after missiles were landing near them but Clive Lloyd thought enough is enough So i think Jadejas questioning has some validity but not a lot,some times players play in bad weather but only after a certain point they give up..If u constantly get paranoid that the whole world is out to get Indian cricket u will view everything with hatred,start admitting mistakes too..i mean with todays technology who is going to have such a bad pitch?yea west indies did in 1997 but westindies is a worse country than India,its not even a country and much poor...so people like Jadeja should question the curator,Jadeja himself was known to be a bad player of bounce,he never featured in test teams,so he should know that its dangerous
Re: Re: opinions of cktrs
by Raman Shiva on Dec 29, 2009 03:41 AM
If u view with suspicion even that Semis 1996 can be blamed on Lloyd for taking revenge against India for wcup 1983 loss,its a never ending witch hunt if players like Chetan Chauhan gavaskar and co go on blaming others than looking at our system,which is just filled with politics,corruption and incompetence Look at team selection,the day Cheeka takes helm he brings back Sreesanth in the cost of Ishanth,i mean one good performance sreesanth went back to his old inconsistent ways and got sick as well If Sree deserves a chance then what about Irfan Pathan? Our system will always politicise things At one time Kaif got chance after chance after chance,those days mullahs came into team easily but now with Cheeka Iyengar,no chance.lol...my point is with so much bias and politics within us we cant always blame everyone,in this case blaming Lanka is a waste
Re: Re: Re: opinions of cktrs
by Lotiya Pathan on Dec 29, 2009 09:31 AM
see.. you're killing your good arguments by your prejudious bassing of Gawaskar. I understand Gawaskar is standing up against Aussie roudies and that irks you but please don't compare him with Chauhan..
Chauhan is cheapsteak and total failure, a perfect Indian Politician
Now that Chetan Chauhan has conveniently twisted it on hapless Lankans,what happens now? Are they still gonna continue with that stupid venue Ferozshah Kotla as if nothing is wrogn with it? Would be funny if India bat first on it and Tendulkar got hit like Dilshan,Gavaskar will go slap at chetan chauhan then
Re: So now what?
by Raman Shiva on Dec 29, 2009 03:44 AM
He says it wasa mistake then why blame Lankans he says the pitch wasnt ideal for international matches,then why blame the match refree mr Chauhan? first make up ur mind chauhan
That was not a good pitch to bat on at all. Even if batsmen have protection, getting hit on the knuckles, shoulder, elbow etc can often hurt. Players like Nasser Hussain have broken fingers when hit on knuckles. Ponting's elbow's condition is commonly known. I didn't watch the entire match, but have seen clips of the ball misbehaving, with inconsistent bounce... many balls bouncing really high, and some keeping low, from good length spots.
First he blames SL, then the match ref, and then he blames Daljit Singh, saying they did as they were told. But DDCA prepared the pitch, so they own every responsibility for it. Nagpur( not sure) was warned of a blacklist for a substandard dust bowl, versus South Africa. So, why not Kotla? It's always been crap pitch anyway... variable bounce, no help for quicks except Anil Kumble (he was as quick as Prasad, back in those days).
DDCA is scared of getting banned for WC 11. That's why they're in "passing the buck" mode. The BCCI is to blame for scheduling a match on a pitch that has been recently relaid. I'm assuming DDCA could have refused. They did not, and made the track, so now they are to share the blame.
whether pitch was good or bad is a different issue but...
nowadays, batsman wants flat bed pitches where bowlers dont get any support. they just want to bang every ball even with their closed eyes, want to score 400 runs without losing any wkt. slowly that has become criteria of calling a pitch as good.
when a bowler gets some kind of help, batsman start crying, commentators start blaming curators, n icc start bashing ind. if batsman cant score runs, they term the pitch as bad. ridiculous. v hv to get out of mentality of unnecessarily guarding the batsman merely coz of too much commercialisation.
doent any bowler desrve any sympathy, cant v hv bowler friendly wkts? its high time, v gv good bowler friendly wkts n start considering them as good wkts.
Re: forget the pitch
by Raman Shiva on Dec 29, 2009 02:23 AM
Even if u listen to his commentary Gavaskar isnt Sympathetic towards any bowler,he said if he had a different birth he wants to be a fast bowler and give it back to those bowlers,little did he know that bowlers were on a leather hunt when batsmen like him batted all day.. its always a batsmens game,but no game should be continued if the pitch is substandard. but i love to see bat being dominated by ball on a minefield of pitch,some batsmen like Salim Malik or gavaskar or Miandad ,INZI or Martin crowe have showed their class in low kept wickets too
Re: forget the pitch
by Raman Shiva on Dec 29, 2009 02:21 AM
i know ur a big fan of Gavaskar vinay,if u really like bowlers that much think about what Gavaskar did to them He was the one who was in ICC commitee and had super sub rule and free hit rule,among that Super Sub was removed by free hit is still there
Gavaskar always opposed to bouncers and made sure they were limited in tests Did u know how he whined when Ashley Giles bowled in leg side that sachin cant score on leg side in 2001 series in Idnai,same matches Sehwag smacked giles when he bowled leg side
I am all for Bowler friendly pitches,but again u dont want to hurt batsmen either,in that pitch if Indian batsmen had to face Maling or a Donald or a Ambrose or Waqar or Wasim or any ferocious fast bowler,trust me u wont feel this way at all..
Re: Re: forget the pitch
by vinay on Dec 29, 2009 02:33 AM
nevertheless, although pitch had some problems, one has to start thinking of supporting bowlers now with all batsman friendly rules made in the last decade.
Re: Re: Re: forget the pitch
by Raman Shiva on Dec 29, 2009 02:43 AM
Gavaskar loves the game being twisted in favor of batsmen,yea no bigger politician than him..but his batting was great,no doubt about it at all..no doubt
Re: Re: Re: forget the pitch
by Raman Shiva on Dec 29, 2009 02:41 AM
Gavaskar is not just a Gora Basher,he is a oppurtunist and a hypocrite
He never explained all that foreign currency in his locker He always was Pro Pakistan and was close to Imran Khan,he was never caring about team winning,even in Reliance cup everyone knew he didnt want to play in Calcutta who threw tomatoes and abuse on him in 1984 for dropping Kapil,so he got out cheaply in semifinals he was certainly involved in match fixing along with top names,one man Azhar just cant fix games he never cared to support Kapil the way he supports Tendulkar when something bad is written on sachin or he is attacked by media,he was commentating in the match in 1992 when Kepler Wessels hit Kapil,he couldve asked the team to protest,he wouldve written 100s of articles if it was sachin who got hit he dropped Kapil after one bad shot in the Delhi Test in 1984 which hurt Kapil badly and that worsened Kapils relationship with him,he dropped so many slip catches of Kapil,not purprosefully but was reckless enough to never care much he was known to be very defensive as captain and hardly played to win matches he till this day is more concerned about sachin 100 than team winning,he is one reason why sachin would never come lower down order,even a Virat Kohli can score 100 at number 4 sachin never gives up opening slot Gavaskar was main reason losers like Ravi Shastri played for sooooo long
Re: Re: Re: Re: forget the pitch
by vinay on Dec 29, 2009 02:48 AM
as regards locker money, i doubt there might b many involved in it. n as capt he wasnt good either. as batsman he faced the best bowlers on best bowler friendly pitches unlike sachin.
however, he is good only in commenting. hes like good talker without any good implementor of his talks.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: forget the pitch
by Raman Shiva on Dec 29, 2009 03:22 AM
well he is purely a batsmen and doesnt know much about bowling,thats why he was so defensive in captaincy and had no clue how to win matches,especailly Tests,in ODIS his mantra was to waste first 15 overs,even though those days they didnt score briskly in ODIS they still didnt score as slowly as our team did when Gavaskar was captain Once Clive Lloyd famously remarked Indians play Tests like ODis and Odis like tests this was mainly due to players like Gavaskar and Shastri all in all he is a bad influence in more than one way..it will be interesting to see if he will be around once Sachin retires,cause ive hardly noticed he complimenting any player(even indians)other than sachin,he even wrote that Dhoni plays defensively to prolong his career,which was a awful remark considering Dhoni being prolly the only selfless match winner along with Yuvi in ODIS
