i think the declartion of the match between australia and pakistan is the enough score for the paksistans coz they do not have good batting line up speically the middle order batsman yonus khan is not there in the team , i think that the pakistans must need a good batting line up and they should be very stiff batting like watson is batting in the australians
He just 28 years Old and already have 33 test wins as Captain. He may play from another 6 years as captain and Ponting in 2 yr or max 4 yr (Home or Away Ashes) will be retire or thrown out. If it is happening G.Simith will end up as the most successful Test Captain ever.
Re: G.Simith will beat his record very soon
by tendusach on Dec 29, 2009 12:03 AM
if dhoni plays for another 10 yrs he will break all records..if...but...if...????
Re: G.Simith will beat his record very soon
by Against Pseudos on Dec 29, 2009 04:09 AM
Senthil:
Good observation.
Since South Africa has signed a "life long captaincy" contract with Smith, you are right that he will end up with 77 test victories in the next 6 years. :)
He is the best captain. The best batsman who doesn't play play for his personal records. And compared to all the so called Indian Legends the best fielder on the cricket ground. A Total Package. Let us not be jealous and praise him for his talent.
Re: Well done Ponting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Unbiased on Dec 28, 2009 10:08 PM
also ... claiming one pitch catches, pushing higher authorities when celebrating, crying when some one gives their sledging dish back and asking keeper to kick the bails and claim bowled .... man .... he cant be a role model .. he is a disgrace ....
Re: Re: Well done Ponting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Raman Shiva on Dec 29, 2009 01:36 AM
hey Unbaised Dhoni also claimed one pitch catch yea Ponting can whine but he has been part of 3 wcup winning teams,so losing even in a sledge might hurt compared to ur hero loser sachin who has never featured in a wcup winning team.. ur jealous of ponting cause his team AUS have won wcups 4 times and ur hero sachin has no idea how it feels to be part of winning team WCUP or any big tourney
Re: Re: Re: Well done Ponting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Unbiased on Dec 30, 2009 12:52 AM
Why shud I be jealous of Punter, I dont waste time thinking of a disgraced ppl. I feel proud of sachin and India. Yes we didnt win the WC but they tried and I was there supporting them and I am proud of that.
Re: Well done Ponting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by tarun raina on Dec 28, 2009 09:56 PM
yes io totally agree with you he plays for his country and not for himself like that tendulkar batladulkar
Re: Well done Ponting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by godi godi on Dec 29, 2009 02:43 PM
Well said Mr.Subramanian, to be honest our Indian players play for self and records .It show how good captain is Ponting.If given a chance till the age of Sachin ,Ponting surely surpass all records.Australian yard stick will sack capacities like Sachin .Don't forget Boon
Re: Well done Ponting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by godi godi on Dec 29, 2009 02:42 PM
Well said Mr.Subramanian, to be honest our Indian players play for self and records .It show how good captain is Ponting.If given a chance till the age of Sachin ,Ponting surely surpass all records.Australian yard stick will sack capacities like Sachin .Don't forget Boon
Ponting has his own records and Sachin has his own ... but Sachin is a great person by miles and Sachin will be a role model and Punter cant ... claiming one pitch catches, pushing higher authorities when celebrating, crying when some one gives their sledging dish back and asking keeper to kick the bails and claim bowled .... man .... he cant be a role model .. he is a disgrace ....
Re: What ever be it ... Punter cant be a role model
by chelsea on Dec 28, 2009 10:19 PM
Ricky Ponting's job is to be a cricketer NOT a role model. He will always be remembered for being an awesome batsman and captain. Just like Warne who'll be remembered for his legspinning skills than his sex-capades.
Re: Re: What ever be it ... Punter cant be a role model
by SRINIVASAN on Dec 29, 2009 12:50 AM
Ausies are more sportive, mentally & physically strong enough than other peoples. So, comparison is not sensible. let us take the game is a game. No serious arguement reqd.
Hi all, Ponting is not a great captain but he was blessed with a great team that enabled him to get such great results. Give him a team like West Indies or Pakistan and see if he can achieve a quarter of what he has achieved - both personally and as a captain.
Here are the figures to substantiate what I said above. After Ponting took over captaincy in early 2004, Aussies have played 70 Test matches of which they won 44 lost 11 and drawn 14. It is an impressive record.
If you drill it down further and check the games where he had great players like Warne, McGrath playing it is even more impressive. 39 played, won 29, lost 3 and drawn 3.
What happens after Warne and McGrath retire??? Not as impressive record. Played 31, won 15, lost 8 and drawn 7.
Look at his own batting record, during the time he was with the other great players in the team, his test batting average is impressive around 60.00 and after that period, it is a normal 42.80. Check his batting average in India, it is about 20.85, which is mediocre by any standards.
If he has to be considered a great player/batsman/captain, he needs to have consistent performance in all conditions with all kinds of teams.
Re: ... it is a result of the great team he had at his disposal.
by Raman Shiva on Dec 29, 2009 01:37 AM
Evne with great teams u have to lead from front to win,he won 2 wcups as captain without losing a single game,thats great plus he recently won a champs trophy with a very average team
Re: ... it is a result of the great team he had at his disposal.
by chelsea on Dec 28, 2009 10:15 PM
Ponting story is not over yet. I agree with you partly now but I like what I am seeing from Ponting. He inherited a great team and it is hard for any captain to adjust from that. Ponting is getting better though. I'm pretty sure that by the time he retires, Aus will be top ranked test team. ACB is keeping Punter because they know that only he is capable to do it.
Re: Re: ... it is a result of the great team he had at his dispos
by Praveen Kumar on Dec 28, 2009 11:54 PM
You can see very clearly that the team is on the decline and Ponting too. You have the numbers posted above to see for yourself. By the time he is retired - which will be in soon - the team will see worse days.
Next in line for the captaincy, Clarke is no good either - as a person, but only time will tell how he will lead this confused unit.
Re: Re: Re: Re: ... it is a result of the great team he had at hi
by Praveen Kumar on Dec 29, 2009 07:39 AM
Mr. Pseudos (orwhatevernameyougoby), Know your English, Sir! That is all I can tell you :)
P.S.: Nowhere have I mentioned that Ponting has captained in all the 70 matches and 44 wins.
Re: ... it is a result of the great team he had at his disposal.
by Unbiased on Dec 28, 2009 09:28 PM
Good one Praveen ... but you are wasting ur time giving stats to all these blind supporters of Punter who will even say their family is not theirs when they go in tough times ... esp shrikanth
To Call Some one Great YOu should have sportsman ship (pointing and sportsman ship its cheat man shhip) You need to nurture the upcoming starts and manitain the existing ones(see bret lee and Symonds ) people should swear on your character as person ( only steve bucknor will do it)
he has a good record as a captain to call him god i think demon would be better name
Re: Ponting & Bucknorn partnership
by S Shrikanth on Dec 28, 2009 08:39 PM
I do not think Bucknor was an umpire in recent ODI series in which Australia defeated India 4-2 in India. :-))
Re: Re: Ponting & Bucknorn partnership
by Madan Waghmare on Dec 28, 2009 08:42 PM
neither was he when india defeated autralia 2-0 in one day in ur astralia
Re: Re: Re: Ponting & Bucknorn partnership
by S Shrikanth on Dec 28, 2009 08:49 PM
Thats true. But lets take today's result, after the Australian team has undergone the transition.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ponting & Bucknorn partnership
by Madan Waghmare on Dec 28, 2009 08:53 PM
Please call him at neutral venue and also unbiased umpires. killing rats in pakistand does not make him tiger.
well. punter is god of test cricket and one dayers as well. he performs when its needed the most. our indian legends are good for personal records, but when it comes to finals. our tigers (including sachin) behave like goats. punter is a true leader and team-mate. he is unlike our sefish manipulators
Re: Re: hi GOD
by Chaklam chak on Dec 28, 2009 08:09 PM
only tops.. and had won soooooo many world cups since 1983, wat good are for these legends(read personal records).. who will not bring even a single world cup after 1983.. hail punter..
Re: Re: Re: hi GOD
by SRINIVASAN on Dec 29, 2009 12:37 AM
but, t'dulkar performance in all these world cup was enough but the team performance was not enough to won the world cup.
Re: Re: Re: hi GOD
by Madan Waghmare on Dec 28, 2009 08:22 PM
live the Queen and her followers. Idiots dont understand Ponting rode a successful Australian team with individual brilliance of warne mcgrath brilliant opening batsmen and well oiled selection committee whicha had brought the country to that level. Now everybody know with his brinat captainship australia is no more defacto standard for circket.. Records are made and broken identiy cannot be judged by them
Re: hi GOD
by S Shrikanth on Dec 28, 2009 08:13 PM
That why Indian team flops in WC, T20 WC and ICC CT. They are kicked out in tourmaments in first round getting defeated by Bangladesh. :-))
Re: Re: hi GOD
by Madan Waghmare on Dec 28, 2009 08:37 PM
"Tendulkar was not fortunate enough, although he had a great team. Ganguly was fortunate enough with the same team."
True you said it right Can you tell me what resources India had in fast bowling when ganguly tendulkar ruled. I would say gangully was the best Indian captain who fought will limited resoures and so is dhoni who is fortunate to have battery of fast bowlers sharp fielders and very strong batting line up. Courageous captain to lead from front its easy to hide behind Umpires than figth it on ground
Re: Re: Re: hi GOD
by S Shrikanth on Dec 28, 2009 08:45 PM
Thats what I want to say. Creating and utilizing the resources is captain's job. Resources are not available so easily. Ganguly created people like Sehwag, Yuvraj, Harbhajan and mentored them to successful cricketers. Thats why Ganguly was a successful captain.
Shane Watson, Siddle, Bollinger, Haddin, Hussey, hauritz are creation of Ponting to fill the space created by the yesterday's stalwarts. And managing those stalwarts was not an easy job as well.
Re: Re: Re: Re: hi GOD
by Madan Waghmare on Dec 28, 2009 08:55 PM
None of mentioned above are as consistent as bret lee or symonds which he has lost barring hussey
