Lankans Mantra to win - 20 players per match on their side. Ball - Cricket Ball only for Opponents. Tennis Ball for them. Opponents - Women's Team of the opponent country and only 11.
Bowling condition- ball should come only to the height where they can hit boundaries.
Enough of this quota system/ rotation policy for cricket matches. Aus has so many cricket grounds, yet very few venues host International matches. Even in Bangladesh, most matches are in Dhaka, even though they have some other cricket grounds. Only in India we have this dubious rotation policy - when the pitch at Delhi was so new and not tested, why grant them a match? Instead, they could have given the match to Chennai/Bangalore/Mumbai(Wankhede)/Jaipur or even some smaller city. The last few years the Kotla pitches have gone from bad to worse, and yet they keep getting matches. Come on Delhi... put up an international quality cricket ground/pitch, and then demand for a cricket match. Till then, you have work to do!
Yes DDCA and BCCI have erred and have agreed to refund the money, where is the shame here?
We should rather be ashamed for constantly demanding "Australian", South African and English Pitches in India
No other cricketing nation's public will critisise its own greats as "fit" only to score in Indian Mud-pods, Or our own Spin Wizards as unfair beneficiary of the pitch conditions, to my mind this is not applied to players of othehr nations, West Indians did not alter the nature of the pitch to help indian spinners there, australiasn do not tamper with it to help Murali ir a kumble, why India, we should produce spin friendly pitches of low bounce and allow the bats to have a go
If Media is not happy, let their net casters play atleast some some sick minds will watch
Media Houses, channels, keep off you have no role here, its real wordl out there Stop critisimes and contribute
Re: TOO MUCH TOO SOON
by Anwar Ali on Dec 28, 2009 10:05 PM
@Arul: There is a difference between a bowler friendly pitch and a dangerous pitch. This pitch was not even a sub standard pitch, it was an outright dangerous pitch to bat on. 2 great batsmen (Dilshan and Jayasuriya) got hit repeatedly, and it had terrible bounce. As Gavaskar rightly pointed out on TV, the pitches in Australia and SA might be bouncy, but they are predictable. Here, some of the deliveries just scooted off the pitch, reaching Dhoni on the 5th bounce!! And the final ball from Tyagi just took off. Right at the pitch report itself, I told my friends that this match could be a repeat of Indore in 1997. It was a horrible pitch, and shame on the curator and DDCA for experimenting on the International cricketers.
Re: Re: TOO MUCH TOO SOON
by praveen on Dec 29, 2009 12:57 AM
i agree with arul. What is dangerous here. The cricket ball hitting batsman. come on. Should the standards be raised that every cricket ground will be batsman friendly where 400 runs can be hit consistently. Two batsman were hit by variable bounce. Thats what cricket is about. If a good pitch for batting where two same balls, one can be dispatched to six and other beaten. Do you think, it is dangerous for bowlers to be bowling there. We are giving away cricket to batsman's game and not a fair play. Jayasuriya and Dilshan decided the game is it ... while both were out to excellent deliveries and not pitches. A soldier is never afraid of the terrain he has to fight. Srilanka here are enough cowards.
Re: Re: Re: TOO MUCH TOO SOON
by Anwar Ali on Dec 29, 2009 03:26 AM
@praveen: 2 things are apparent from your message: 1. You must be a Delhiite 2. You have no idea what a soldier means, neither do you know who is a coward.
Dilshan and Jayasuriya are not cowards... people the world over are scared of them, even on bowler friendly pitches. they are 2 of the top batsmen, but them getting hit repeatedly by zaheer, tyagi and nehra...c'mon these 3 medium pacers might be decent, but not even REMOTELY HOSTILE! There is a huge difference between a good bowler and a hostile bowler. Shoaib Akhtar is not a good/smart bowler, but he is very hostile. But, on this pitch, Zaheer and Tyagi were made to look like Wasim & Waqar!! I am all for a sporting pitch, maybe even the 180-200 runs kind of wickets, but this was atrocious!! Balls reaching on the 5th and 6th bounce!!!!!! Unless u are a Delhi ite, I can't see any logical reason how you can support having an international match on this UGLY, YUCKY, DIRTY, HOSTILE pitch. The morning fog(which is expected at this time of the year in DElhi) only made the case strong for not having a match at this venue at this time. That is my point.
We are the Only Country in the world to have TWO ABANDONED Matches under our belt due to substandard Pitches. One in Indore and second Today at Delhi..... Mera Bharat Mahan and Mere Bharatwasi Mahan.....
Re: Mera Bharat Mahan.....
by Preet on Dec 28, 2009 12:46 PM
India is not only No 1 in Test Cricket. Its No 1 even in Substandard International Pitches..... Kudos BCCI for bringing SHAME TO OUR COUNTRY.....
Re: Re: Mera Bharat Mahan.....
by SUBROTO RAY on Dec 28, 2009 01:24 PM
Dont worry kolkatata joining soon with abandonment for light failures. Shameful for legendary Eden Gardens and shameful for Dada.
bowlers shud also hv right to refuse to play if the pitch is batting paradise with no help to bowlers. bolrs shud refuse to play on pitch which gives 400 runs a day without losing wkts. y only batsman hv become cry baby. y not allow bolrs also hv a say in pitch condition.
Re: bowlers' right to cancel the game.
by Anwar Ali on Dec 28, 2009 10:11 PM
where is the PHYSICAL danger to bowlers on a batsman friendly pitch? This match has been abandoned due to a sub standard pitch, not because it was bowler friendly. It was hardly as bowler friendly as the Toronto pitch (remember the India Pak series many years ago?). NZ pitches are usually bowler friendly... Test pitches in India are extremely bowler friendly after the 4th day onwards. But this is ridiculous - in less than 15 overs, there were so many horrible bounce deliveries! It was a correct decision made by the match referee to call off the match.
Re: Re: bowlers\' right to cancel the game.
by praveen on Dec 29, 2009 01:05 AM
we should have tennis balls to batsman who cannot play variable bounce. Then danger will not be there. Srilankans can have full gear as well there. and have the opponents play with the cricket ball. Worth it.
Re: Re: bowlers' right to cancel the game.
by ganessin virappin on Dec 29, 2009 02:55 AM
Test pitch in India extremely bowler friendly after 4th day ie 5th day... You have great sense of humour. Just because the opponents are not able to score it is not bowler friendly. India bowling is high quality. SLCB will get its due from BCCI.
Re: Re: Re: bowlers' right to cancel the game.
by Anwar Ali on Dec 29, 2009 03:33 AM
thanks for appreciating my sense of humor, but I was obviously not referring to every single instance, just specifically referring to the matches where Kumble used to turn the ball like Warne! With all due respects to Kumble, when there are so many cracks on the pitch, it does become very bowler-friendly...lets not kid ourselves... but again, my point is... there is nothing wrong with those pitches... since the first few days are batsmen friendly, the 4th and 5th day pitches belong to the bowlers...that is perfectly understandable... but in this case, the ugly Kotla pitch was such a shameful pitch. It was so ugly to even look on the TV. Gavaskar, who must have done of 100s of pitch reports himself called it a "hair transplant pitch". Try arguing with Gavaskar...
usually there r 3 pitches on the ground. organisers take one of them to use in a match. if by chance, one pitch misbehaves with uneven bounce. can they go for the other pitch?
moreover, delhi ranji trophy was having a ranji quarter in the same city. but the domestic ckt pitch had no problem but pitch for intnl match had problems. funny!!!
Wow can you believe this unprofessional approach towards a very crucial and important event where there were lots of dignitaries and the event was globaly covered by the media. It has really tarnished the BCCI image and just imagine how will the worlds sports lobby react as ther is commonwealth games coming upo and the same unprofessional agenda that the sports stadium is nowhere seems to be seem completed.
This is not the first time by the Lankans to abandon a match........they did the same thing against India 8 years before.Once they felt that they could not win this match...they abandoned the match.If it was India ...we would'nt have complained....rather get out under 100runs and would have lost the game .
Re: Lankans play spoil sport......
by ganessin virappin on Dec 27, 2009 11:16 PM
I agree with you. How come these former Indian players played against gr8 WI bowlers without protection. S L always had excuses to escape from loss.
Re: Lankans play spoil sport......
by Sameer on Dec 27, 2009 10:11 PM
it was 12 years ago and the score was 17/1 in 3 overs ... I hardly call that a losing position. Do you guys even think before you bark ?
Re: Re: Lankans play spoil sport......
by Anwar Ali on Dec 29, 2009 03:38 AM
very well said, Sameer. As u pointed out 17/3 is hardly a losing position, and yet, people bark, without thinking. Instead of making this a nationalistic/patriotic issue, we should address the issue as it is. Even Sehwag from Delhi warned after the 4th match, that the kotla pitch is very unpredictable at the moment. ICC issued a strict warning, and yet we don't take responsibility. We simply put the blame on the Sri Lankans. Whether SL is at fault or not is secondary, first we have to keep our slate clean before pointing the finger at someone else!
Re: Lankans play spoil sport......
by praveen on Dec 29, 2009 01:10 AM
Lankans Mantra to win - 20 players per match on their side. Ball - Cricket Ball only for Opponents. Tennis Ball for them. Opponents - Women's Team of the opponent country and only 11.
Why do people dont have mush there... quite obvious.
Re: Lankans play spoil sport......
by ganessin virappin on Dec 27, 2009 11:23 PM
Excuse is the mantra for Lankans. How come former WI greats threatened whole world with the lethal deliveries. Did all those matches got abandoned?
Re: Re: Re: Lankans play spoil sport......
by ganessin virappin on Dec 28, 2009 08:29 AM
I agree with you partly. But Lanka has to be prepared for a hard lesson from BCCI. Lanka wont get any India tour in near future for sure.
Re: Re: Lankans play spoil sport......
by Sameer on Dec 28, 2009 07:01 AM
there is a huge difference in playing on dangerous pitches and playing on pitches with consistant carry and bounce.
You guys are not thinking that part at all. Pitches back in the days were well prepared and the only delivery that went over the batsman's head was the one pitched half way down the pitch.
Its a shame. No one is saying who is responsible for this stupid incident. If this how a pitch is prepared for international match, then some head should roll.
