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How the record changed hands


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Abhishek Chakravarty
Correction to above table
by Abhishek Chakravarty on Oct 18, 2008 06:43 PM  | Hide replies

There has been some confusion as to why Bradman is not in the list. This table shows runs at the end of the inning when the the record was achieved. I have added total runs they have made in the last column. As you can see hammond scored 7241 before retiring which Bradman never reached.
Here is how the record of highest run-scorer in Tests has changed hands (from 1000 runs):

Player       Runs      Date Total Runs
A Shrewsbury (Eng) 1000      17 July 1893 1277
J Darling (Aus)       1278      23 Jan 1902 1657
AC MacLaren (Eng) 1297      03 Mar 1902 1931
C Hill (Aus)       1495      24 Jul 1902 3412
AC MacLaren (Eng) 1518      26 Jul 1902 1931
C Hill (Aus)       1542      12 Aug 1902 3412
JB Hobbs (Eng)       3413      22 Dec 1924 5410
WR Hammond (Eng) 5411      26 Jun 1937 7249
MC Cowdrey (Eng) 7250      29 Nov 1971 7624
GS Sobers (WI)       7460      26 Mar 1972 8032
G Boycott (Eng)       8033      23 Dec 1981 8114
SM Gavaskar (Ind) 8115      13 Nov 1983 10122
AR Border (Aus)       10123 26 Feb 1993 11174
BC Lara (WI)       11175 25 Mar 2006 11912
SR Tendulkar (Ind) 12027 17 Oct 2008 12027

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nikhil
Re: Correction to above table
by nikhil on Oct 25, 2008 09:47 PM
isn't it that sunil gavaskar scored more than 10,000 runs???

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Chirravuri Srinivas
The above is obviously wrong!
by Chirravuri Srinivas on Oct 18, 2008 01:01 PM  | Hide replies

If we go by the above table Walter Hammond held the record for highest runs between 1937 and 1971 with 5411 runs...an obvious mistake because Sir Don Bradman scored 6996 runs and he surely retired well before 1971! Need better analysis!

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Rohith Shenoy
Re: The above is obviously wrong!
by Rohith Shenoy on Oct 18, 2008 01:43 PM
dude.....if u see properly Hammonds tally shown here is just 1 run more than the previous record he broke.....look at the next person after him in the list......Bradman never caught upto Hammond ok

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Vinay Joshi
Re: The above is obviously wrong!
by Vinay Joshi on Oct 18, 2008 01:46 PM
THis is not their total test runs...it only tells about the moment they broke the record...according to your calculations Lara should still be at 11175...

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what
Re: The above is obviously wrong!
by what on Oct 18, 2008 11:37 PM
the analysis is right. hammond retired in 1947 with 7249 runs. don retired in 1948 with 6996 runs. Don scored all these runs in fewer test than Hammond, but hammond have scored more runs than don at that time... I dont know the complete list of their scoring...but guess don might have closly following hammond in the total runs scored in test

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srivatsa yb
dravid may come close
by srivatsa yb on Oct 17, 2008 11:40 PM

no injuries

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Abdul Shahir
Chances for Ponting
by Abdul Shahir on Oct 17, 2008 10:06 PM  | Hide replies

Lets look at it this way. Ponting is around 1800 runs behind Tendulkar, and it would take a minimum of 1.5 years for him to reach. And then we can assume that Tendulkar might score arround 1000-1200 in that 1.5 years, then Ponting will need another year to reach there. So if Ponting can play for another two and a half years, and Sachin retires in a year, it might be possible. However, I think Ponting might still fall short. :)

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uma
Re: Chances for Ponting
by uma on Oct 17, 2008 11:35 PM
you are right Shahir....

and one more thing.....

sachin and Ponting are of same age ....with 4 months difference...

no way for ponting....

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prasheen mothukuri
Re: Chances for Ponting
by prasheen mothukuri on Oct 17, 2008 11:41 PM
1yr 6 months is the difference between both

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Maria Gracia
Re: Chances for Ponting
by Maria Gracia on Oct 18, 2008 08:58 AM
u r missing the fact that sachin started out very early and ponting is almost catchingwith him. this means ponting's rate of reaching 1000 runs is quciker than what u assumed.

ponting is definitely going to be on top eventually in 2 year's time....

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pratap tiwary
Re: Chances for Ponting
by pratap tiwary on Oct 19, 2008 09:19 AM
I agree that ponting will go on to beat Sachins record, but would like to add a few points in favour of Sachin.
1> Australians play 4-5 tests more than india every year. half of them at batting pitches at home.(Other than Perth).
2> Because Australia has had one of the best attacks in the world, Ponting and Hayden has got favorable conditions to bat more than other teams, one because Australian attack manages to dismiss the opposition earlier than other teams and other because there are fewer runs on the board. Many of Australians batsman have scored big runs in the third innings when they are setting the target for the opposition(They rarely enforce follow-on) and the fields are defensive. Add to this the fact that Ponting will not have to face Australian attack comprising of Mcgrath,Lee, gillespee and warne
3> Tendulkars run scoring appetite slowed down in the last 3-4 years because he has been prone to injuries. Also he has missed a lot of cricket because of it. Agreed he has missed fewer tests than one-dayers but still making a comeback from injury means it will take a few matches to get back in groove. Ponting on the other hand has had a golden run last three years with only minor injury concerns.

Leave stats alone-Sachin has been a world class batsman for 19 years and still going strong. I doubt anybody will ever be able maintain that kind of record. Murali took more wickets than Warne but there is little doubt that Warne was the best.

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Karunakar Patil
Re: Re: Chances for Ponting
by Karunakar Patil on Oct 19, 2008 12:45 PM
Adding to that SACHIN has scored almost unbeatable 16361 Oneday international runs making his tally of International runs to 28000plus.

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shraddhanand desai
Re: Chances for Ponting
by shraddhanand desai on Oct 21, 2008 01:46 PM
However, one young bowler named "Ishant Sharma" was missing when Ponting was scoring runs. Ishant had taken him out 5 times in 5 tests.


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Hindustani
Re: Chances for Ponting
by Hindustani on Oct 23, 2008 01:23 PM
exactly even today no bowler can claim tendulkar to be his bunny. but ishant, bajji all are playing football with ponting for the last 1 year.

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Mahesh Margam
Ponting is next in the list
by Mahesh Margam on Oct 17, 2008 07:51 PM  | Hide replies

Ponting for sure is next in the list. with the kind of form he is.. it might not be long before he breaks the record.

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Saurabh De
Re: Ponting is next in the list
by Saurabh De on Oct 17, 2008 10:34 PM
There is a mistake in this list. Sir Don is missing. I am certain during his retirement in the late 40s he held the record with a little under 7000 runs.

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Guest
Re: Ponting is next in the list
by Guest on Oct 18, 2008 07:37 AM
Not really!! Wally Hammond held the record from 1937 to 1971 as he was the first person to break the 7000 runs barrier. Whereas Don Bradman had fell short of that milestone by those famous 4 runs!!

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Karunakar Patil
Re: Ponting is next in the list
by Karunakar Patil on Oct 19, 2008 12:50 PM
Yes you are right guest. There are always some blots on great people. Bradman could not become highest run getter. Or for that matter Viv richards og gavaskar era cannot become highest rungetter And far lesser batsmen like Jef Bycott, Border are in the list. Stats donot always tell real history of cricket and real worth of the player . Fortunately two of our greats are ther in the list Gavakar & Sachin

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