Who can forget the aussie SA match `22 runs to score 1 ball to be bowled, screen message because of D/L method, nobody objected then,If India wins, them our media with acrage of newsprint to fill call all these past stars of england and dutifully reproduce their mumblings PITY these fools, they still live in the rules favour only the whiteskinned lords, not the brown skinned Indians. What to do laws atleast on sporting field appears to be applied fairly to both sides. But, our media and its journos do not like it. Low Lifes
indians are such poor losers! if the decision had gone in england's favour they would have cried "racism"...this is not a win at all so the indian team shouldn't be making such a big deal anyway!
Re: Re: false win
by arul m on Nov 23, 2008 12:47 AM
Close your tap, Your maharaj is happily retired now, still you have some punches left for Team India.
England was defeated fair and sqare using D/L method, scrap this method for all teams then and play-out till results are on. Let Aussies and English also face the music, why belittle India and shrewd captaincy from Dhoni who played as per requirement of D/L Chart, if England had won using this method, I'm sure you will be jumping in glee and wont care to write
Re: false win
by neil mukherjee on Nov 23, 2008 05:35 AM
of course i would be jumping in glee! and the indian cricket team would be crying "racism" :-(
Re: false win
by vinay badwaik on Nov 24, 2008 12:35 AM
Neil, it seems that you do not follow cricket and hence better do not make fool of yourself by opening your mouth. T
It is very easy to comment after a match like what was said by Engineer. This old man who settled in England has more sympathies towards them than his own land. May be his English wife did not like the result. Match referee has done a good job under the circumstances Peiterson would not have opened his mouth if England was in winning seat. If there were floodlights it was the fault of BCCI to arrange a day match. Bangalore mostly get rains in late evenings. At least Bangalore should have given day match instead of D/N. BCCI has no brains.
Re: Match referee
by Sups on Nov 22, 2008 02:20 PM
If England had won then I'm sure Dhoni would have opened his mouth (at the very least) and am doubly sure that whole of India would have cried hoarse about it (and rake up sentiments that only the sub-continent teams get penalized.) It's easy to comment as long as you are an audience, and that's the way the world will always be. On the other hand, the criticism should do good to ICC's sloppy administration.
Re: Match referee
by neil mukherjee on Nov 23, 2008 05:39 AM
you are absolutely right.the indian cricket team always have some excuse when they lose...and they only seem to win on home ground :-)
Re: Match referee
by Balaji Krishnamurthy on Nov 24, 2008 01:46 PM
Man, you are talking about the English team. Go through the past reports to see their lame excuses. Kevin Pietersen is the only captain who has not offered lame excuses. This is probably because he is South African by birth.
Everyone wants to claim a slice of MSDs success. Farukh is becoming senile and should be kept away from the media by his keepers whoever they are.
For one thing, every match is a contract between the two boards and the local cricket association under the ICC umbrella of rules. The contract decides at the outset if the lights will be used (if at all). If the lights are covered in the contract, the local association (and the ground) needs to be paid for its usage. The local electricity authority will need to be told so that they can make provision for the usage. All this needs to be done beforehand so that there are no surprises. The lights were not in the contract and that is that. Why blame Roshan Mahanama for this fiasco?
Now why were lights not covered in the contract? That is a different question altogether. Why did the Indian board, the local authorities who know the conditions well and the match committee decide that lights are not essential - this is a question that needs to be probed. How was the tour plan made out with two matches in questionable conditions (Lucknow and Guwahati)? The greed of all three entities, the English cricket board, BCCI and the local cricket association is evident. If you make provision for lights in a day match, you will need to pay more to the ground authorities. Why should they - for a mere 1 or 2 hours of play? Let the public pay, who cares if they get a match or not? Let fools like Farukh sit in their clubs and blame the match ref.
Re: Success has many fathers!
by carl dsouza on Nov 23, 2008 01:06 PM
Well explained.. i guess others should read this and other facts right, before commenting.
These days, any tom dick and harry can speak out to the media and try to come to light. Farokh is old, mature and should read more abour cricketing rules that have gone a sea change since he played his erratic games.
There was NOTHING wrong in the way the match finished. Yes, we'd have sure liked to clean up the match but this is what it is.
Farokh Bhai, you accomplish nothing by talking trash. You've been a good cricketer. Just stay there.
I think these English men dont remember how they reached 1992 world cup final. Because of the same D/L they were there. Now they cry. Why they did not from 1992?
Re: 119 world cup final
by bhaskar on Nov 22, 2008 10:16 AM
Well I believe that rule and this rule is a bit different.In that rule you were able to substitute the maiden for the overs lost but not here. Moreover in that series a match between england and pakistan(76 all out) came to a halt when england was going great guns ( because of rain and D/L method) with a point apiece, which resulted in Pakistan to have a chance to come to final and they did it and lifted the world cup in style.
Re: 119 world cup final
by G on Nov 22, 2008 10:31 AM
It's not about D/L rule. It's about how the authorities went about the whole game right from the beginning. Play could have started earlier, but they still waited for 30 more minutes.
They could have reduced the game for 45 overs if they wanted to give 30 min break to the team chasing the total.
These are the things people are talking about as common sense. Deciding a game on D/L is not the main issue.
Re: 119 world cup final
by Balaji Krishnamurthy on Nov 24, 2008 01:49 PM
Duckworth Lewis rule was not around then. If you really look at it the older methods were even more stupid. D/L may not be ideal, but it is the best we have got.
Re: Robin
by raghvendra singh on Nov 22, 2008 09:14 AM
Why don't we cut out personal references in this forum? Doesn't do anyone any good. Engineer in his heydays was a swashbuckling batsman-wicketkeeper and a very lively person on the field.
