Well Gavaskar was a great batsman, but days have changed its not neccessary whatever he speaks that has to right. We all know what our G8t Ganguly has given the Indian Team. We should be proud that we had a player of his calibre. There are great players in the Indian Team but we cannot term Ganguly as a loser as he was the best captain and a great leader who had sheer guts to fight with BCCI and other senior members of the cricketing fraternity to choose the best team, which i think is not at all acceptable for greats like Gavaskar and other. Its easy to speak with a mike in your hand but its always good to show respect and humanity to a fellow sportsman. I think the main concern for Gavaskar was his son wasn't given enough oppurtunity to play in the international arena. Well we all know what the reason is? If you all readers out here feel that i am right do support me.
this same gavaskar talked a lot of faulty technique of sehwag but what happened, sehwag has avg of over 50 in tests two time 300s 3 times 200s and he is 30 yrs of age now and still going strong
ravi shastri said a lot of things abt ganguly in SA series in nov 2006 when ganguly was making commeback, but dada made 214 runs at avg of 43 in SA fast pitches, and top scored among indians in that series
vengasarkar also dropped dada in irani trophy but he slapped vengi with 102 in mohali and 85 at nagpur making 330 runs at avg of 55 in aus series
all these gavakars,shatris,vagsarkars said a lot for vinod kambli, but where is he now, dancing in reality shows and working in B-grade flims
also sanjay majerekar ,what a great technique he had,but what happened could not even make 2000 runs test cricket
all these gaakars ,shastris,vengasrakars only want players from maharashtra,whole india knows that maharshtrians r the most parochial state i india,they dont like ousiders they dont say jai hind only jai maharashtra
ad what abt his 36 runs in 60 overs in odis,wow what a fantastic technique
Re: gavaskar is marathi
by Ramanjaneyulu Gandluri on Nov 13, 2008 10:01 AM
Mr. Abhi S,
What Gavaskar meant by "good technique" was that one should score more number of runs and centuries - does n't matter whether the Team wins or loses. If the option of winning the match or scoring a century is to be chosen, one should opt for the latter. What he meant by good technique was to score as slowly as possible in a ODI, so that one teaches a good lesson to the Captain and the Team. Does n't matter if one scores only 36 n.o. in 60 overs, as long as one carries the bat. What he also meant by good techique was not to leave the crease when batting on 80s, even if the match was declared as drawn, till the opponents come and bowl to him to complete the much needed century. What he meant by good technique was to drag the non striker also out of the ground, if any favourable decision is given against him. Lesser mortals like us keep criticising one of the "All time Greats in all forms of the Game", without thoroughly understanding the importance of the number of centuries and the number of runs that one scores, because the fools like us prefer winning the matches over the individual scores.
e: Hats Off Mr. Gavaskar..The Doyen of Indian Cricket by Indranil Sengupta on Nov 13, 2008 06:52 AM What do you mean by technique technique technique against fast bowling? You need not remind someone about technique when he scores so many runs with forty plus averages and centuries against Australia. Don't at least now when the man has left the scene, invent theories to play him down. From day one this upright and upcoming hero has been a victim of misconception and propaganda.
His overwhelming talent and determination took him to the height where he belongs and that is anther story. Please don't show your ignorance and reliance on deliberate and purposeful lies spread by others.
Recently Laxman commented that he could score 10000 runs if he batted at higher position (Number 3 or 4). Although I have doubt about him scoring 10000 runs batting at number 3, I have no doubt that he could have scored more than he has scored so far. I feel sorry for Laxman. However, since he was playing along with Dravid and Tendulkar he had to be content with playing at Number 5 or Number 6. In the same way I think Ganguly could have scored more if he could bat higher up the order. Imagine a test team comprising of batsmen like Gavaskar, Dravid, Bradman, Tendulkar, Ponting, Brian Lara. Would it be possible for all of them to score 10000 runs?
Re: Laxman's comment regarding 10000 runs
by Sameer K on Nov 13, 2008 01:06 AM
It requires skills to play 1 down or 2 down, as sometimes the team loses few wickets quickly and the batsmen to come have to face fast bowlers just as openers would do. Ganguly use to come to bat at no 3 and no 4 when he started his career, scored well against England in 1996 but in the frequent series against South Africa who had fast bowlers he was found wanting and that is why he was demoted to no 5/6 position. And even during his 10 year career he couldnt face fast bolwers confidently and score against them. His 10 year average from 1996 to 2005 when he was dropped is around 30 against Aust, Pak, WI and South Africa and all these teams had the best fast bowlers of their time.
It's a shame that we the Indian cricket fans do not love our cricket team as much as we love Sachin or Dravid or Laxman or Ganguly or Kumble or Dhoni. What's more disgusting that when we love Sachin we hate others. when we love Dravid we hate others. When we love Ganguly we hate others and the list continues. We do not distinguish good cricket from bad cricket. Rather we get sadistic pleasure when we can belittle some cricketer in comparison to the particular cricketer we worship. Shame on all of us!!!
Sachin 14 tons contributed to win. Dravid 9 tons contributed to win. Gavaskar 6 tons contributed to win. Azharuddin 5 tons contributed to win Vengsarkar 4 tons contributed to win GR Viswanath 4 tons contributed to win Laxman 4 tons contributed to win. NS Sidhu 4 tons contributed to win. Sehwag 3 tons contributed to win Kambli 3 tons contributed to win one Eng one SLanka one Zim DN Sardesai 2 ton contributed to win Vinoo Mankad 2 ton contributed to win All Rounder Kirmani 2 ton contributed to win Pataudi 2 ton contributed to win Pankaj Roy 2 ton contributed to win Kapil Dev 1 ton contributed to win All Rounder Ravi Shastri 1 ton contributed to win All Rounder
Then these tons also contributed to win with less tests played
M Amarnath 1 ton contributed to win S Amarnath 1 ton contributed to win Wadekar 1 ton contributed to win V Hazare 1 ton contributed to win Poly Umrigar 1 ton contributed to win Deep Dasgupta 1 ton contributed to win Nayan Mongiya 1 ton contributed to win
Then these tons also contributed to win tests played Look for topper in third list
Saurav 4 tons contributed to win Two Zim and one Eng one aus now more tests played D Karthik 1 ton contributed to win Bangla desh yet going strong Ganbhir 1 ton contributed to win Bangla desh yet going strong V Jaffer 1 ton contributed to win Bangla desh yet going strong SS Das 1 ton contributed to win Zim Bangar 1 ton contributed to win Zim
Re: India%u2019s all time top tons for winning causes in Test cricket
by anaida raza on Nov 12, 2008 07:57 PM
But Saurav is greatest in Bengal Edition papers and for Bengali Journos.
Re: India%u2019s all time top tons for winning causes in Test cricket
by Ismileatfools on Nov 13, 2008 09:49 AM
Anaida Raza is a maid servant in a Bengali house and beaten everyday for lapses. This makes her a Bengali and Saurav hater.
There are real fools here like Zenga. Who say Ganguly has scored 12 hundreds between 1996 to 2005, and when i asked how many of those 12 hundreds came against SA, Pak, WI and Australia, the answer is ZERO, then fools like zenga write he has 3 hundreds against Pak and Aust, LOL these three hundreds are not there in those 10 years.
That is why i have been saying Ganguly cannot be termed as a great test batsmen leave aside a legend, cause a batsmen who played for 10 years and in this period he couldnt score a single 100 against the best bowlers of his time like McGrath, Warne, Ambrose, Walsh, Akram, Waqar, Donald and Pollock, leave aside 100, his average if you take all those tests in which he played against them is less than 30.
Its better not the compare any of the players. Its indeed for a player to contribute for his country during crucial times and hope everyone had done that without any hesitations
Re: Lets not compare
by venkataraman devarajan on Nov 12, 2008 02:38 PM
I personally feel Ganguly is the best captaion than Gavaskar. Iam sure everyone would have not forgotten the indian team after Azharudhin left. The team was in a dormant situation the young and enthusiastic dada (GANGULY)lead the team to forefront with maximum of ODI wins and also in tests. He changed the tame indian cricketers to an agressive team. So Lets us stop making nonsense about Ganguly. Though iam a great fan of saching tendulkar i give due respect to gangualy who had raised the indian team to heights as an aggressive caption.
Mr. Gavaskar you have finally shown your true colours. You were always the leader of Ganguli bashing group. Your examplary cunning made you choose words which most couldnt read into. Not your cronies though - Ravi Shashtri and Harsha Bhogle, they were more blunt in writing him off from the beginning. Personally I grew up with your batting exploits and was part of the large fan following you had at the time. In posterity, your exploits hardly won any test matches for the country, and seems you always played for personal laurels and gains. Your brother in law, god bless him, Gundappa Vishwanath was truly a great player and won many more matches for the country, than you did. I choose not to mention about your one day exploits. Do you remember the below players that you backed and got selected to play for the country, Sudhir Naik, Suru Nayak, Ghulam Parkar, just to name a few, the list is endless. Sourav Ganguli, of whom you mention, has won more test matches for the country as a captain than any other Indian; transformed the Indian team that you see now; kept parochialism out of team; and scored runs in both forms test as well as one day. WHICH UNFORTUNATELY EVEN YOU COULD NOT DO! WHAT A SHAME! Please note I refer to both forms and not just test cricket. Even your prot� Dilip Vengsarkar's batting records, in both the forms is not particularly better than Sourav Ganguli's. Comparatively, Ravi Shastri was hardly a cricketer..The 1984 was a fluke.Talking about indispensab
Re: Hats Off Mr. Gavaskar..The Doyen of Indian Cricket
by Ranajit Bhattacharyya on Nov 12, 2008 01:54 PM
Talking about indispensability, please remember no one is, neither were you. But, please don’t hit someone below the belt, who has achieved more for the country than you have.
Re: Hats Off Mr. Gavaskar..The Doyen of Indian Cricket
by great maratha on Nov 12, 2008 02:08 PM
Sir i understand your sentiments for a player from your state but nowadays it has become a trend to ask about accomplishments of tendulker and gavasker.Gavasker is the greatest player of fast bowling till date and his heroics in west indies and england in 1971 are unparalleled.For your information India won both the series and as far as sourav is concerned he never played the likes of marshal,roberts,lillee,hadlee.We respect sourav for his leadership qualities but his technique against fast bowling was always questionable.Please do not defame a legend like gavasker who played fast bowling without the modern safety equipment and we like dada too.
Re: Hats Off Mr. Gavaskar..The Doyen of Indian Cricket
by Ranajit Bhattacharyya on Nov 12, 2008 02:26 PM
Mr. Maratha, and a proud one at that. I have never lived in Bengal, and consider myself an Indian first than anything.
I am not blinded by regional feelings as you are, your nom de plume suggests that.
Re: Hats Off Mr. Gavaskar..The Doyen of Indian Cricket
by Indranil Sengupta on Nov 13, 2008 06:52 AM
What do you mean by technique technique technique against fast bowling? You need not remind someone about technique when he scores so many runs with forty plus averages and centuries against Australia. Don't at least now when the man has left the scene, invent theories to play him down. From day one this upright and upcoming hero has been a victim of misconception and propaganda.
His overwhelming talent and determination took him to the height where he belongs and that is anther story. Please don't show your ignorance and reliance on deliberate and purposeful lies spread by others.
Your point taken Mr. Gavaskar. But a few like me don't agree with it. In fact we strongly disagree. If scoring ten thousand runs with an average of 50 personally and not contributing much in terms of generating results for the team is a greater achievement (as per your view-point) than changing the course of Indian cricket history once and for all, then we won't agree with it. Never !! Don't want to belittle Kumble or some of those batting greats of the 90s, but there have been very few in Indian cricket that have had as huge an impact as Sourav had, as per my knowledge. You were the one whom I respected highly for making unbiased comments, but your comment on Sourav has hurt a few people like me. For me there have been two Indian cricketers who have contributed the most to Indian cricket and they are Gavaskar and Ganguly. But I will never ever support your statement about Ganguly that he was not a "great" test-cricketer !!
