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Parimala Murthy
I like Dhoni
by Parimala Murthy on Mar 11, 2008 01:44 PM  | Hide replies

I really like M S Dhoni for what he is doing for Indian Cricket. He is too good. I also read an article where he has mentioned he drinks a lot of milk around 8 litres every day. Iam impressed by that.

I am from Bangalore & I pray to god that I spend few days or atleast hours with my hero MS Dhoni so that I can tell him that I love him.

Luv you ...MS

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jayavel Kanniyappan
RE:I like Dhoni
by jayavel Kanniyappan on Mar 11, 2008 03:42 PM
Stupid, u like him bcoz he drinks lot of milk...... I dont understand why noone talks of his shortcomings that are hard to ignore in an unbiased view. How many matchwinning performances of late? Is he really as explosive a batsman as people claim him to be? Was he calm or unable to play shots during those composed innings? Is he technically decent enough to succeeed at test level? Wats his performance in tests in Australia? Can he find gaps? Is he atleast on par while facing genuine pace bowlers? Wat if tendulkar was not there during the finals and does the team have any century making potentials in team except Gambhir and Sachin? His narrowmindedness in selecting his own group and by doing so neglecting good prospects? His perseverance, arrogance in sticking to Yuvraj without conclusive reasons? Jus because the team worked, these things are ignored and I am surprised. Stephen Fleming is an awesome captain but he lost most and Dhoni's case is the vice versa. People are just turning blind coz of our so called hero worship.


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CricFan01
RE:I like Dhoni
by CricFan01 on Mar 12, 2008 03:23 AM
I agree. Dhoni struggled in tests against good bowling. He has limited strokes - if the ball is pitched up (and not swinging) he either drives along the ground of lofts over the field, if there is width then he slashes hard. If bowling is not to his strengths then he struggles to keep the score moving, hence his strike rate goes down to 60-70 during those times. He cannot use his wrists (like Sachin or Laxman) to put away really good balls in the gaps and his footwork is non-existent. In ODI he will be OK because the bowling is not attacking generally but against good test bowling sides he will struggle on helpful wickets. For tests, Karthik is a better bet as he can play long innings and also keep wickets better.

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CricFan01
RE:RE:I like Dhoni
by CricFan01 on Mar 12, 2008 03:30 AM
But inspite of his shortcomings in technique Dhoni gives 100% which is key. I hope that he is able to overcome his technique to have a long tenure in test team otherwise Karthik will push him for a place in tests

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Mike Behrenger
RE:I like Dhoni
by Mike Behrenger on Mar 12, 2008 10:57 AM
well said cricFan01, good to see you making a sensible comment, and i perosnally believe not just Karthik but also Parthiv and other keepers are coming up. Personally i believe Dhoni should not be playing tests, he is doing fine with his natural aggression in strategies and game, to play the shortened versions of the game. He should just head that area and someone else should take on the Test Captaincy and keeping role. This will allow the leaders to have a no-distraction focus on there areas of the game with much more positive results for our TEAM INDIA. Although, saying that i don't think Dhoni did too badly in tests against Australia. After keeping well against Aussies and a ver ywildly swinging or veryingly bouncing ball on australian pitches for more than a day at times, he batted afterwards to contribute a healthy 30 or so score which was good to see. He is mentally quite tough and that will make him grow lot quicker.

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critic
RE:RE:I like Dhoni
by critic on Mar 12, 2008 07:31 AM
jayavel Kanniyappan! Dhoni SHOULD DRINK RASAM! THE WAY U DRINK &'SAPADHA' every day! IDIOTT! U are too good in finding 'GAPS' in others lungiees, U sleezy bumster!

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Mike Behrenger
RE:RE:I like Dhoni
by Mike Behrenger on Mar 12, 2008 10:59 AM
Hey jayavel Kanniyappan, FIRST OF ALL THATS SOME NAME YOU HAVE FRIEND! And secondly, you stink very very badly of Cow Dung, maybe its from your mouth and then again maybe its from your rear end, so i suggest you stay off the topic of CRICKET and discussion. This site could really do without people like you. Kind Regards! Ciao!

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Mike Behrenger
RE:I like Dhoni
by Mike Behrenger on Mar 12, 2008 11:02 AM
are you being sarcastic my friend? Or are yo ureally praising dhni for his simplicity in today's modern age! Well anyway, results are for all to see so it does not matter in the end, Dhoni is doing well and i just hope you have some respect for the man who in his tender age is doing a whole lot for his country already and winning some credit and pride through his straight forward thinking and a TEAM-ATTITUDE thats hard to find elsewhere. Salute to DHONI and ofcourse our VETERAN KUMBLE for excellent TEST CAPTAINCY!

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Mike Behrenger
REGIONAL BIAS and EGOistic DISCUSSION - NO NO NO NO!!
by Mike Behrenger on Mar 11, 2008 01:40 PM  | Hide replies

INDIA aur INDIANS, hamare kismat maen ek achee victory aur acha performance aaya to tum sab lage hue ho ek doosre ki kaatne maen. Abey look at other countries, EVEN BANGLADESH IS MORE PROUD OF ITS CRICKETERS THAN YOU ALL ARE!! Start accepting that India TEAM played as ONE in TESTS and ODIs and it was a TEAM CONTRIBUTION. Every run made by any batsman in FINALS or LEAGUE matches counted, every wicket taken or run saved in the field by a player of our team was crucial! And thats why IT IS CALLED A TEAM EFFORT and now a Sachin's lone hand to victory or DHONI's luck towards victory. Its 11 players and their wisdom together that brought this victory over KANGAROOS AND i believe we should all be grateful to our players and should pay them respect for giving INDIA this historical opportunity to hold its head high and say we can beat Australai even when they are in golden touch and ruling the world.

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critic
RE:REGIONAL BIAS and EGOistic DISCUSSION - NO NO NO NO!!
by critic on Mar 11, 2008 03:37 PM
Mike Bhai! We indians are 'LOBSTERS '& can not tolerate our victory! We had one bloody 'JAICHANDS' before freedom,but now "Many" who will stab "Maha Rana Pratap's" team for their winning efforts!

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Mukesh Kumar
RE:REGIONAL BIAS and EGOistic DISCUSSION - NO NO NO NO!!
by Mukesh Kumar on Mar 11, 2008 01:47 PM
Kis se akele mein bol rahe ho bhai? Socha chalo tumko akelapan na lage to reply kar deta hoon lol. One might speak of one player's contribution because of his affection to that player. But it is pure common sense that it was a team effort which brought this impressive victory. Waise baat achhi boli hai :)

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Mike Behrenger
RE:REGIONAL BIAS and EGOistic DISCUSSION - NO NO NO NO!!
by Mike Behrenger on Mar 12, 2008 10:34 AM
Hi Mukesh Bhai, i am really writing this msg in response to IDIOTS like CONCERNED INDIAN, and many other such guys who are absolutely not concerned about INDIANs on the whole. Some utter rubbish has been written so far on these forums lately andi am finding it so hard to accept that there are so many indians almost 50% who are so unhappy about things even though whats been achieved is a highlight of the last decade of cricket in India. When Australia came ot INDIA and beat us in a test series, you should have seen their celebration and they still hold that victory as a historical achievement, then why should INDIA AND INDIANS not be PROUD of what they have achieved? Thats all thats bothering me, these people are longing for such PERFECTIONISM that only exists in their fantasies rather than reality. And in doing so they are ridiculing their own men who are winning their countyr pride through sheding some blood and sweat in foreign and hostile land! I am feeling disgusted, thats all i think we need to support our cricketers a whole lot more, thats all.

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deepak chhetri
Brin Kaif & Agarkar
by deepak chhetri on Mar 11, 2008 01:38 PM  | Hide replies

Bring Kaif & Agarkar back to team. As both r youngster & good player.

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Prasad Manokaran
RE:Brin Kaif & Agarkar
by Prasad Manokaran on Mar 11, 2008 05:06 PM
Ajit Agarkar is a shameless jerk, good for nothing fellow. Seven consecutive zeroes against Australia is indeed very shameful. Ok he is a front line blower agreed, but it that field also he is not that perfect %u2019cause he give away too many runs to shield the hope of India%u2019s victory.

Ajit Agarkar is India%u2019s zero number one and there is no doubt about it. It will be unfair on my part to grade Ajit Agarker so low

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critic
RE:Brin Kaif & Agarkar
by critic on Mar 12, 2008 07:38 AM
BHAI JI!So what?He is from MARATHA durbar! U have to consider, even if Agarkar is a big ZERO,& also when CHHETRI! is recommending!...what a SHAM!

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Nishchay
Bring Back AGARKAR... ;-)
by Nishchay on Mar 11, 2008 12:37 PM  | Hide replies

Please Bring back AGARKAR in to the team.. he is a rocking youngster.. :-)

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CricFan01
RE:Bring Back AGARKAR... ;-)
by CricFan01 on Mar 12, 2008 03:26 AM
Yes Agarkar will make a good assistant bowling coach to Venkatesh Prasad :)

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Mike Behrenger
RE:Bring Back AGARKAR... ;-)
by Mike Behrenger on Mar 11, 2008 01:10 PM
Only should return if he can perform to match the current breen of bowlers on field and bench. Otherwise he needs to stay off. There was a time when he was very useful compared to what was available in the stocks of bowlers, but today he has pretty stiff consistent competition so don't think he will return so easily.

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Mukesh Kumar
RE:Bring Back AGARKAR... ;-)
by Mukesh Kumar on Mar 11, 2008 01:48 PM
Mike baba....Nishchay is being sarcastic. Kyon itna analysis kar rahe ho bhai.

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sm
Kumble is forgotten
by sm on Mar 11, 2008 12:23 PM  | Hide replies

Hi All,

We have conveniently forgotten kumble after the test series. It was he who did all the ground work. I totally agree with Lakshman Valiveti's views saying 'It was Kumble who countered aussies with strong infield and outfield tactics and demoralised them. Remember the "only one team played with spirit" dialogue, and subsequent handling of the issue. Aussies had no response to his ways and crumbled. That lead to their weakening in oneday seris, infact aussies threw it away more than India won it. Dhoni was just there to collect the produce of kumble's seeds, well we have to appreciate dhoni for not doing wrong.' ,
So when they say Dhoni is reaping the fruits for which Kumble had sowed the seeds.........I agree 100%

In a way the media is also responsible for this kind of biased publicity for Dhoni.

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critic
RE:Kumble is forgotten
by critic on Mar 11, 2008 04:03 PM
DIALOG bolne se match nahin jeeta jata 'SM' Maharaj! see what U are repeating on this forum..."totally agree with Lakshman Valiveti's views saying 'It was Kumble who countered aussies with strong infield and outfield tactics and demoralised them. Remember the "only one team played with spirit" dialogue, and subsequent handling of the issue."... YOU HAVE TO PROVE YOURSELF WITH YOUR PRFORMANCE! You WHINGER! YOU HATE YOUR OWN VICTORIOUS TEAM! THAT'S ALL!...Creating division in the country!

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critic
RE:Kumble is forgotten
by critic on Mar 11, 2008 03:55 PM
SM ke bachhe! tu phir vapus aa gaya! Phir vahi bakvas karne laga Gadhe! Naalyak! doob mar! gaddar!Dhoni ki team ki Burai karega, ya joote khayega!

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Mike Behrenger
RE:Kumble is forgotten
by Mike Behrenger on Mar 11, 2008 12:59 PM
LET ME CLARIFY SOMETHING TO YOU ALL FIRSTLY, no noe forgot anyone. What you guys re forgetting is that YOUR COUNTRYMEN went to Australian Shores and won you accolades of pride and self-praise YET they are being Praised in REGIONAL DIVIDE, Discussed as subjects of EGOISTIC WARS, and even at times RIDICULED on their BOLD PERFORMANCES as a TEAM by their own country people. This is realy going to hurt our cricketers. India has in the last 3 tours to Australia done something evry consistently, they have CHALLENGED AUSTRALIA on their OWN GROUNDS in TESTS AND ODIs. Bowlers have bowled well, Batsman have adjusted well, whether it was youngster or a senior player, i am only CONCERNED WITH AN INDIAN PLAYER not a young or old. what was different this last tour to the other two previous tours though was that India had the perfect balanced team and right blend of seniority and youth. But there is one thing India lacked throughout, full positive vibes...something that come from the heart of their own countrymen and comes as a virtue of FULL FAITH AND UNQUESTIONABLE TRUST, Inidna players do not get that. If half the ocuntry supports them, the other half berates them. And the vibes they play with are not favourable ever. This time they seeked help of some sources that have boosted their morales, that have given them additional mental and phsychi support to go out there and play like tigers and the results are in front of you. I can tell you this coz i have followed them here in Sydney.

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Mike Behrenger
RE:RE:Kumble is forgotten
by Mike Behrenger on Mar 11, 2008 01:07 PM
But you know what, you guys sitting back home think its all too easy, its just no big a dea lfor the players (15 individuals) to ocme here to Australia and play such a big opposition thatsvery well backed by its media, its associations and its people above all. Even us local indians living here have to fight for our dignity day in and day out at times. Indian players just did that AND WON a series that too AGAISNT AUSTRALIA after CHALLENGING THEM VERY CONSISTENTLY IN TESTS AND ODIS. So now why are people raising all sorts of stupid issues...why are theytrying to break a TEAM EFFORT into INDIVIDUAL GLORY and give credit to one section of the team and not the other. Every individula of the team in tests and ODIs is to be congratulated. And thats what every INDIAN should be doing right now rather than arguing on such forums!

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sm
We should be more open minded.....
by sm on Mar 11, 2008 12:08 PM  | Hide replies

We people are very narrow minded. Why do we get so offended when statements are made against induviduals.......??? I agree sachin is Greatest of Greats. But still he can be told to pickup his game when he is not performing. We should speak with respect to the team's views and our country's views, not just get offended for remarks against any induvidual....
BTW, even Dhoni said, 1,2 and 3 players should contribute and coz of their failures the team is suffering.........What does that mean....Its directed towards Sachin in a way and by doing so, Dhoni is not against Sachin, he wants him to be the backbone of the team in winning causes.

Often we find here in rediff, we keep fighting for induviduals and not for a nation's cause......Come on guys be more broader in your views....!!!!


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HARD HITTER
RE:We should be more open minded.....
by HARD HITTER on Mar 11, 2008 01:02 PM
Rather than pointing finger towards opening batsmen, Dhoni should ahve asked all his batsmen to play their part if India has to win the series!!!
excluding Sachin, Gambhir and to some extend Dhoni, not a single batsman has performed consistently!!! Look at Yuvraj, Pathan, Rohit and Uttappa, what was their contribution.
INfact how good dhoni batted to give a winning performance???
SO before opening mouth against people like sachin's calibre, dhoni should set an example by himself. After being team India's captain how many match winning performance has dhoni delivered. Now someone will say that he has matured, he is batting with lots of responsibility. But then why is his runrate in almost all the matches is below 50%? why he is not able to score briskly( not by hard hitting, but by stealing singles and doubles)?
why can't he pick gaps?
SO lots of things are unanswered! which someday or other will be exposed.
Moral of the story: Dhoni is lucky to be team india's captain and to win the CW series, with only sachin, Gambhir and ishant performing at expectation

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Mike Behrenger
RE:RE:We should be more open minded.....
by Mike Behrenger on Mar 11, 2008 01:15 PM
HEY HARD HITTER, ever played in a team and WON before??? Leave Cricket, any sport?? TERI HARD HITTING AKELE KA HI EFFORT HOTA HOGA HAI NE? DHAKKAN HAI TU...kya....totla DHAKKAN! GONE CASE AND a SORRY SOUL. India ki kismat kitni kharaab hai yaar. Tujh jaise akalband log baithaen hain uski chaatee pe aur chorte bhi naheen. Abey Oye INDIA JEET KE AAYEE HAI, kis baat ka shoke mana raha hai bhai? Khush rehna naheen aata kya? Anti-depressant le le, dekh teri soch bhi badal jaayegi. Aaj kal ke Jet-Age ke bache bhi na...uff!

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HARD HITTER
RE:We should be more open minded.....
by HARD HITTER on Mar 11, 2008 01:28 PM
well tom, First and foremost try to write in english, cos you donno how to write/spell hindi.
Talking about India's victory, each and every indian is happy for that.
If you can read and follow proper english(which I doubt) again try to read SM's message, doesn;t it looks narrowminded too, ahasn;t he fully supported dhoni for being narrowminded and accused openers for not scoring consistently!!
Looking at your message it seems that you act like a decent fellow, but you aren't one. Mind well If I start abusing like what you have initiated in your message, it will be hell lot of trouble for you to read it and it will be painful too!! For sure.

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Mike Behrenger
RE:We should be more open minded.....
by Mike Behrenger on Mar 12, 2008 10:52 AM
Oye Hard Hitterm, you want English mate, here cop some of Aussie slang. Mate you minority of curry-munchas don't have any freaken clue about whats been happening to your cricketers during their stay all around outback Australia, and above all the kinda humility they had to put up with to represent your country, not mine as i am not even living in idnia and still am supporting INDIa unlike some of you, yet they are being criticised day and night over issues that arise out of your rear ends and have no sensible backing to it. You buncha freaks have no clue why India and its team is SO HAPPY, and you talk about NARROW-MINDEDNESS and the indian captain being lucky. Let me set something straight here my friend, IT IS NOT VERY LUCKY TO BE A CAPTAIN of a team representing GOONS like yourself, and above all, past records don't give an inclination of what will pan out tomorrow! What happened in the last few months was a result of people not following past records, had they done that, you would have gotten stuffed up the A**E like in the World Cup 07 which you all are so happily using as a benchmark of stuff-ups in INDIAN cricket history. Now, let me correct your english or hindi or whatever - its not RUN RATE its Strike Rate, oh and also about Brisk scoring DHONI is the first CAPTAIN who scored a 50! without any boundaries under pressure and won a match. As far as other issue goes, sorry i am not regretful about abusing you, you deserve it! Hope that brightens your day and life! Enjoy

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sm
RE:We should be more open minded.....
by sm on Mar 11, 2008 01:49 PM
Hello Hard Hitter,

I am the first person who has written in this comments board about not to be narrow minded. How can you say that too me.

What I have said about Dhoni's comments are when India chased 300 runs and lost the match. Till that match, sachin, sehwag, Uthappa and yuvraj had not played their part in winning the matches. So Dhoni said 1,2,3 should give a solid start for us to win. In this statement, there is nothing narrow mindedness that I can see.

The way you are reacting shows how narrow minded you are by backing one induvidual and argueing wrongly.

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critic
RE:We should be more open minded.....
by critic on Mar 11, 2008 04:18 PM
Dear HARD HITTER Bhai! Hamein to hindi or english dono aati hai! Angrejon se sekhie thi! tabhi to hindustan ki marne mein lagaein hain! If all us are 'HAPPY' then from where these 'CLOWNS'coming & talking from different region, states? talking NO.SENSE!!!Gaddar ki kami nahin!

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Mike Behrenger
RE:We should be more open minded.....
by Mike Behrenger on Mar 11, 2008 01:12 PM
VERY VERY WELL SAID BROTHER, another TRUE INDIAN SUPPOPRTER. Read my cooments above. these people are bringing the dirst of REGIONAL DIVIDE AND EGO WARS into this whole thing and rather than giving CREDIT TO THE WHOLE TEAM, TESTS N ODIS, they are giving credit to their REGIONAL HERO or their main linchpi nin the team. But one player or two players DO NOT EVER WIN A GAME. These illiterate people need to be educated on this. I am with you, keep up the good work.

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Mike Behrenger
RE:RE:We should be more open minded.....
by Mike Behrenger on Mar 11, 2008 01:16 PM
I AGREE WITH SM, he is 100% correct. LEARN FROM HIM INDIANS!!

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sunil vyas
Sachin is gem
by sunil vyas on Mar 11, 2008 11:23 AM  | Hide replies

India%u2019s win in Australia was just unthinkable without the support of this legend, just see, Sachin scored highest runs in all 3 three matches that India won in Australia or India would have definitely lost all 3 matches and even India wouldn%u2019t have reached the finals. Anybody who knows cricket deeply will easily understand this fact. Even in first final it was Sachin who made Rohit to make a stand with him, also everybody knows that when Sachin is at one end then he just makes the batting easier for the partner as the whole focus and strategy of opponents is on Sachin and also Sachin keeps on giving tips on different types of bowling. Facing the new ball was main and the only problem of Indian batsman and Sachin just made it look very easy by keeping his wicket intact in initial attacking over and then attacking very sensibly and intelligently. Even in second final it was Sachin was who made Utthappa to make stand for a big partnership of 94 runs, hence proved Sachin is a big team man who gets along with any player. So in all it was Sachin who made the big difference. After Sachin young bowlers r to be given the credit and not the young batsman.



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sm
RE:Sachin is gem
by sm on Mar 11, 2008 12:06 PM
Hello Sunil,

We all know Sachin's capability......Dont talk unwantedly. Everybody know sahin is the best. Sachin himself has told, coz of rohit's innings in the first final, he sarted to play fluently.....So dont manipulate things and over do things........please


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HARD HITTER
RE:Sachin is gem
by HARD HITTER on Mar 11, 2008 12:53 PM
Sachin never said that he got in action becos of rohit's inning. Sachin praise rohit's batting style and his calm composure and that's all.

What ever sunil has quoted in his message is 100% correct and that the only reason Rohit performed, becos at the back of his mind he knew there was sachin at the crease. This made rihit relaxed and he played his shots.

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sm
RE:Sachin is gem
by sm on Mar 11, 2008 01:53 PM
Hard Hitter,

If you dont believe me, then check in youtube for sachin's interview of that match on star sports. He himself has praised Rohit and mentioned, because of rohit's innings, he was able to carry on the way he did......That says it all.

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CricFan01
RE:Sachin is gem
by CricFan01 on Mar 12, 2008 04:40 AM
sm, Leave that aside about, the important thing is that India won the CB series for the first time and played as a team which is good news. Everyone complimented each other very well.
Coming back to what Sachin said: Sachin did not say that he started playing well because of Rohit. Dont twist words. Sachin said that when he saw Rohit was playing well, he started going for the strokes (read boundaries).

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critic
RE:Sachin is gem
by critic on Mar 11, 2008 04:33 PM
Indian Bugg! U are creep little cheap dirt fella! talking useless things to ISHANT, U are realy NOT CONCERNED towards INDIAN VICTORY!

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critic
RE:Sachin is gem
by critic on Mar 11, 2008 11:56 AM
YES INDEED! SACHIN! "The Little Master"is our greatest strength. He & Dhoni has guided the young team to victory by their immaculate knock & sustained a strong defense in the last ODI! However the entire "TEAM" deserves "BIG CREDIT" without any "DOUBT".

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critic
RE:RE:Sachin is gem
by critic on Mar 11, 2008 04:49 PM
SUNIL BHAI! Spare us NOW! We all are at FAULT! if MAHARASTRA SHER 'SACHIN' shdn't be there we cannot WIN any 'ODI'! HOPE THIS SATISFY YOUR EGO! Shall we end the further discussion here!

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sakar panch
Staying calm indeed
by sakar panch on Mar 11, 2008 10:12 AM  | Hide replies

Like our famous Ravi Shastri who shows a great deal of maturity by playing immaculate defensive strokes in the hieght of run chase and demonstrate his 'responsible cricket' by not throwing his wicket we now have Mr. Dhoni. The same Mr. Dhoni who when playing under another captain used to swing his bat recklessly now has become 'very calm'. He demonstates admirable responsiblity and calmness - indeed scroing a 50 without a single boundary. Indeed scoring a partnership of 14 runs in 5 overs that too from overs 40 to 45. Indeed very calm. :D

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Cricket
RE:Staying calm indeed
by Cricket on Mar 11, 2008 11:11 AM
Yeah.. and like that "champion of champions" shastri, dhoni too is a winning proposition.

Calmness in times of adversity helps overcome all obstacles. Proven again.

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sm
RE:Staying calm indeed
by sm on Mar 11, 2008 12:12 PM
Hey sakar,

What nonsense are you talking........I accept with shastri but not Dhoni.......He has played the similar kind of matured innings even under other captains......If you are not satisfied, see his performance under Rahul Dravid's end tenure as the captain of the Indian team. He became more a matured person and took the responsibilities more than the other likes of yuvraj or sehwag.....

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Mike Behrenger
RE:Staying calm indeed
by Mike Behrenger on Mar 11, 2008 01:18 PM
well said SM and yeah you idiots out there, THATS WHY DHONI WAS GIVEN THE CAPTAINCY over SEHWAG AND YUVI! So people think carefully and speak or type carefully. Coz without puttin much thought to it, your words are like cow manure!

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HARD HITTER
RE:Staying calm indeed
by HARD HITTER on Mar 11, 2008 01:30 PM
Now you better go and learn/understand some proper english. You fool canot understand the sarcasm in the message

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HARD HITTER
RE:Staying calm indeed
by HARD HITTER on Mar 11, 2008 01:18 PM
SM,
what a responsible persons Yuvraj and shewag are!!! These guys have always played matured innings!! look at how maturely they managed to play in current CW series!!!
Talking about dhoni, he has not a single match winning performance after he has become a captian. He cannot stroke the ball, nor can he find the gaps, he finds it difficult to rotate the strike. Look at his runrate it is below 50%.
When he comes to bat, he comes with a thought to save his wicket rather than score to win a game.
No difference between him and shastri.
Dhoni is lucky to be team india's captain and to win the CW series, with only sachin, Gambhir and ishant performing at expectation



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sm
RE:Staying calm indeed
by sm on Mar 11, 2008 02:01 PM
Hard hitter,

I feel you are against Dhoni. Thats what I am able to infer from all your above comments.....Why??? We are not here to back 1 induvidual or to criticize the other. We are discussing about TEAM INDIA.

BTW, for your argument only I would like to inform you certain facts :- In the CW series, the 3rd highest run getter is Dhoni after Gambhir and Sachin. Also he has played consistently throughout the series until before the finals. Just take a look at the statistics.
Scahin's major scores came in from the last 3 innings......which is when the team needed the most. Dhoni also won a match for us in the league stage, where he staid until the end with tailenders and completed the match against Australia. Now with these facts in front of you, on what basis do you say, he has not won a match for India........????

For your info I shall tell you once again, I AM NOT A FAN OF ANY INDUVIDUAL........I AM A FAN OF TEAM INDIA. I AM PROUD TO BE A INDIAN

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critic
RE:RE:Staying calm indeed
by critic on Mar 11, 2008 02:09 PM
WELL! It was first Sachin & now Shastry! We are all divided in different states,cast, creed, race & so on...What a shame!Everyone blows his own trumpet..No ONE for United India!Mera Bharat Mahan!

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critic
RE:Staying calm indeed
by critic on Mar 11, 2008 01:58 PM
PANCH ya CHAY(6), now you shld be happy as U have a Tamilian, Bengali etc etc..teams, have your Idols play for them, & forget Bhartiya Rastra Bhavana! You are all individuals, pridelless.. moronss.. of 3 orderr..

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Mike Behrenger
ACCEPT IT INDIANS!!
by Mike Behrenger on Mar 11, 2008 07:19 AM  | Hide replies

DHONI Is the BEST INDIAN CAPTAIN ALREADY! and HE HAS LED THE WAY TO A NEW FRONTIER IN INDIAN CRICKET. Many of you INDIAN citizens will disagree but i ask you all who criticise India team and players, do you yourself know what sort of team youwant? I am sure you just like to talk and berate your own players, unliek ALL other countries who so strongly support their cricketers even if they are wretched devils on the field with no humanity and gentleman-like behavior. I believe DHONI is excellent so far and has shown GREAT POTENTIAL. I am sure many of you who will reply and disagree even know the right meaning of the owrds i have written. I hereby ask all you men n women to give us which player you hate or like in the indian squad that toured Australia. Simple! Give us which players you wanna see outof the team and which players hosuld play. I am sure many will say drop Uthappa, and Dhoni and Pathan etc etc. But no reasonoing required, just the names nd taht will tell who can use their brains and who cannot.

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Lakshman Valiveti
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by Lakshman Valiveti on Mar 11, 2008 09:19 AM
It was Kumble who countered aussies with strong infield and outfield tactics and demoralised them. Remember the "only one team played with spirit" dialogue, and subsequent handling of the issue. Aussies had no response to his ways and crumbled. That lead to their weakening in oneday seris, infact aussies threw it away more than India won it. Dhoni was just there to collect the produce of kumble's seeds, well we have to appreciate dhoni for not doing wrong.

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Mike Behrenger
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by Mike Behrenger on Mar 11, 2008 01:33 PM
thats is a sad thing to say buddy. Anyway, i seriously think you people should migrate out of india if you cannot accept sheer brilliance of your own men. such narrow minded divided and regional biased views are so un-called for. India deserves better than people like you.

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by Mike Behrenger on Mar 11, 2008 01:34 PM
The above comment was in response to Mr. Lakshman Veriwetty! Thankchu!

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In sane
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by In sane on Mar 11, 2008 09:25 AM
I completely agree with Lakshman's views. Kumble really rocks. Perfect Gentleman. Dhoni still lacks maturity. But you know in cricket everything is measured by success. Without doubt he won matches for India. I must say he is just lucky.

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by critic on Mar 11, 2008 12:22 PM
INSANE! FIRST DECIDE? what U expected from DHONI?, he should have come as a looser, back to India! Then probably U could have 'PRAISED' him! Apna swabhiman kho chuke ho!

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Deep Ghosh
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by Deep Ghosh on Mar 11, 2008 11:11 AM
actually........dhoni is not borne talented guy.................just luck is with him...........nothing else............but remember luck never long lasts...........it's talent which is forever.........

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by critic on Mar 11, 2008 12:16 PM
Deepu Dada! Tumi bhir bolchi ki aami tumi potbi maari! Tumi capitan banibo, lang sambhali,ki cricket ball sambhali, ki bolchi? You are a great talent Dada Deepu!

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Mike Behrenger
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by Mike Behrenger on Mar 11, 2008 12:49 PM
Oye Deepu Ghosh....man CRICKET IN ITSELF IS A GAME OF LUCK. So, as far as luck goes, yea hwe've been very lucky to get Ponting out 4 times by the same bowler and 3 times on the same delivery! We have been very lucky for Symonds to call Bhajji racist and Bhajji then taking Symonds and Hayden twice in the finals as his scalps which was PRICELESS! And yes we have been very very very damn lucky for Sachin to fire in the finals otherwise people like you would hve dropped him in the finals anyway. Thanks to Dhoni fo sticking with him. So yeah Dhoni is very lucky. No other captain was this lucky, isn't it? You wanna know the reality brother? Make Ponting the captain of India and Make Buchanan the Coach of India with Captain as ponting, then we will see who is lucky and who is not. Any Australian captain knows that in the last decade Aussies had players who would have played for any captain and coach, so whats lucky and whats unlucky is irrelavant. It relates to talent and skill, and above all a team spirit. Learn these things coz you need to speak in a more polished way now as an INDIAN, you have the only team that has beaten Australia so badly. Dhoni is by far very unlucky as a matter of fact to have patrons like you in his country that he represents with blood and sweat. I so wish your son plays for India tomorrow then i would like to know what you say about him.

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HARD HITTER
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by HARD HITTER on Mar 11, 2008 01:20 PM
Rather than pointing finger towards opening batsmen, Dhoni should ahve asked all his batsmen to play their part if India has to win the series!!!
excluding Sachin, Gambhir and to some extend Dhoni, not a single batsman has performed consistently!!! Look at Yuvraj, Pathan, Rohit and Uttappa, what was their contribution.
INfact how good dhoni batted to give a winning performance???
SO before opening mouth against people like sachin's calibre, dhoni should set an example by himself. After being team India's captain how many match winning performance has dhoni delivered. Now someone will say that he has matured, he is batting with lots of responsibility. But then why is his runrate in almost all the matches is below 50%? why he is not able to score briskly( not by hard hitting, but by stealing singles and doubles)?
why can't he pick gaps?
SO lots of things are unanswered! which someday or other will be exposed.
Moral of the story: Dhoni is lucky to be team india's captain and to win the CW series, with only sachin, Gambhir and ishant performing at expectation


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critic
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by critic on Mar 11, 2008 12:10 PM
SMARTY! look at your dirty, sleezy.. comments.."absolutely wrong.He is one of the greatest back stabber. Have you ever seen his innings before captaincy? Now that he is playing responsible innings because if he dont, then people will question him."...WHAT A DIRTY CRYBABY YOU ARE? EVEN AFTER INDIANS WINNING THIS ODI? YOU ARE WHINGING!!! WHY DON'T YOU GO & PLAY AS A CAPTAIN OF "ODI"? SMARTY! tera to ek ball mein pajama geela ho jaega!Bolta hai! 'Sane person' banta hain, Gaddar! tuzh mein gairat aur bharatiya bhavna hai ki nahin!

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Smart
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by Smart on Mar 11, 2008 12:55 PM
Poda velakkenai. what responsibility. India's win is a collective effort and Dhoni just happend to be the captain. You never got my point. and its useless to explain to you also. we are talking about an individual and not the team. I have raised the concern that for the interest of the team he should have played responsibly in the WC. if you dont know that ..better moodittu iru.

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Mike Behrenger
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by Mike Behrenger on Mar 11, 2008 01:31 PM
JUST HAPPENED TO BE THE CAPTAIN? OH SO HE WAS MADE A CAPTAIN COZ NO ONE ELSE WAS WORTH ENOUGH OTHERWISE? Waise aap kahaan ke ho smarty bhai? Aur mere k oek baat batao, kahaan se smart ho...uppar se to khaali kagte ho mere ko. Neeche se hi smart hoge, woh bhi tab jab biwi ya ladki aas paas naheen hoti hogi naheen? Kahir, mere paas tum jaise BAS---kets of knowledge ke liye waqt naheen hai. tum kuch jyaada hi pade likhe lagte ho ham sab ke liye, i think tumko Selector committee ka chairman banaana chaahiye ham sab ko. Who knows you may find the team that will not win but lal players will perform well so that you can not criticise them and call them back stabbers or just plain lucky.

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critic
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by critic on Mar 11, 2008 01:20 PM
PODA Swamy Poda! Me to lived in Bangolore for many years! Smarty ka bachha!

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sakar panch
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by sakar panch on Mar 11, 2008 10:07 AM
I agree.

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Mike Behrenger
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by Mike Behrenger on Mar 11, 2008 01:27 PM
CONCERNED INDIAN!! SMART!! SAKAR PANCH..firstly i am an indian born and brought up in india older than your bloody dads and well brought up and educated to understand the pressures of INTERNATIONAL CRICKET when matches take place bwtween INDIA and countries like Australia, England or South Africa. To boast about this team being shity and other players being better. GO SCRATCH YOUR HEADS AND TELL ME WHICH TEAM won you more matches overseas. As for Dhoni being a back stabber, i believe the period of World Cup 07 was a period of reform in indian cricket, new players were knocking on the door and older players were under pressure of perishing. On top of that you had a GURU GREG (another AUSSIE) causing team divides by his uptight advice. WHAT YOUR PROBLEM IS THAT YOU CANNOT ACCEPT TO SEE YOUR COUNTRY LOSING BUT YOU CANNOT ABOVE ALL SEE YOUR COUNTRY WINNING either if its not by your way of correct balanced performances. the problem is even you as an individual can be soooo wrong but na in your own thought stream you IDIOTS ARE ALWAYS RIGHT and the whole world is wrong. and its people like you who cause a country like INDIA and its hard working Players so much grief. So, if you don;'t need my opinions, the whole of INDIA DOES NOT NEED YOU...dharti be bojh! So, aage se apne aap ko aur apni lulliyon ko kaabu maen rakhna naheen to kisi din bade pange maen pad jaaoge! Baaki to Inidan team karke dikha hi rahi hai to tum log kahaan tak bologe, Ek din public pakar ke maregi to thik hoge.

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raju kumar
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by raju kumar on Mar 11, 2008 12:10 PM
god bless u my son. u ppl r too sick.
get will soon mamu.

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critic
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by critic on Mar 11, 2008 12:27 PM
MIKE! You are the bestman who is available on this forum! I salute U! Many seems to have lost their 'Self Pride'

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Mike Behrenger
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by Mike Behrenger on Mar 11, 2008 12:52 PM
Thanks Critic, you are doing FINE JOB TOO :) But do take it easy at times, i am here to keep the INDIAN HOPES HIGH! These people hardly know the Cricket thats even played in their backyards and they have such big inflated egos, what they do not realise is that every other country backs their players more than their own blood, and yet these people have such double standards about their own players! If our players lose, they burn their effigies, throw stones at their houses, and demoralise them and when they win they talk about them being very lucky. Such are these Knowlegable FOOLS, anpad gawaanr hain sab!

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