RE:Poor Ganguly!
by Ranjit bhattacharjee on Mar 06, 2008 09:51 AM
this shows how mean and how selfish you r . when ganguly was winning matches for the country you said he is great and nobody has leaded the team like him now since he is not there you r saying ill of him. All the players play for the country and we should respect them if you think you are better player than all then why dont you go and prove yourselves
bublu,your data looks good.since you are a sachin fan their is no surprise you are good in coolecting records but what a insane data that was.if you have a close look then your data is a tricky manipulation to emphasize the readers in the forum that sachin is a match winner.first of all winning MOS never mean he is the match winner..try to get some brain here.your data is mixer version of what is the sachin's highest contribution in each series where you could only see MOS against south africa and bangladesh..first of all in south africa series the real match winner is sree saranth not tendulkar..though he won MOS it never mean he was the match winner.second winning bangladesh is not a big deal,but remember he failed to do that in big tournament like world cup against the same team.You itself have accepted he is neither MOS or match winner in england series,this means somebody other than him is the real winner.since he plays for records his name is there so there is no surprise.there is nothing to discuss against the series with australia in india,because his scores are waste when india failed to win the test and ODI.Your pakistan example looks very comedy and it is perfect example how you are trying to picture his contrubution with out any real performance.His part time bowling in india's spin wickets has nothing to with performance,so please dont try to project some thing great about that..gaining two wickets doesn't mean he is the match winner in that match.again what are
RE:To bublu bhuyan...
by Another Indian on Mar 06, 2008 09:30 AM
:-)prabha karan: Winning Man of the Match or Man of the Series does not prove that a person is a match winner or that the person played great cricket in that match.. Superb logic. Winning a world cup proves that a team is world champion?.. I hope it does, for your sake.. :-)
RE:To bublu bhuyan...
by prabha karan on Mar 06, 2008 09:40 AM
dumpa..crap anotherindian..read the comment carefully before crying with your insane thought..i never said MAN OF THE MATCH...i said man of the series..so dont be in hurry and shout like fool..you guys only know what is in the record but dont know anything who is the real match winner in any match..so talk something logic..if you (another indian) are in good form then you lay two big sh*ts in the center of the ground...:)
RE:To bublu bhuyan...
by prabha karan on Mar 06, 2008 09:50 AM
again.i'm not refusing his all previous records in his career before 2002,i want to emphasize here he is sole match winner and man of the match before that..no doubt..not at all..he dominated the cricket at that time..but after that everything changed..he began to change as a selfish cricketer since he goes out of form after that..he is not playing in his potential and his mere calculation is about records,he tool lot of pain to take care about the records but not winning series for india..that's why he often failed in big matches,,especially in finals..he lost the match winning ability which is something we never accept to realize because we are in the dream of his overall performance before 2002.if you see his play in both the finals in CB series,he game is not at elegant and confident..he is thriving hard for runs to score and reach the records..that's why he got 8 fours in the last match with out any power and confident shots..
RE:RE:To bublu bhuyan...
by prabha karan on Mar 06, 2008 10:19 AM
becausew as per your expectation,only video game sachin can thrill us and not real player sachin tendulkar..his quality of game is poor..we want youngsters for his place and that's what majority cricket lovers wish..
RE:To bublu bhuyan...
by Another Indian on Mar 06, 2008 09:55 AM
Not any more? Fair enough.. He may not be the match winner in your eyes any more.. Stop watching him. We believe he still has a lot of fire left in him as we saw in both the finals. So we will continue watching him and enjoying his batting. Fair enough? let's call it quits now. Enough keyboard punching .. :-)
RE:To bublu bhuyan...
by Another Indian on Mar 06, 2008 10:08 AM
Why should I buy images?.. YOU can stop watching team india play.. simple and easy.. :-) Good day.. or night.. wherever you are
RE:RE:To bublu bhuyan...
by prabha karan on Mar 06, 2008 10:03 AM
another indian..there are lot of video games available where you can view sachin's image palying there for team india.better buy one of those and enjoy his cricket for ever..no problem..but remember,dont get into that too much and start commenting about sachin's video game performance here..you got lot of kids forum where you can discuss that..now take a breathe and stop your craps..
RE:To bublu bhuyan...
by Another Indian on Mar 06, 2008 09:43 AM
By the way, did YOU read my full comment? I did refer to both MOM and MOS.. But of course you can't read, I forget.. :-)
RE:RE:To bublu bhuyan...
by prabha karan on Mar 06, 2008 09:58 AM
sinc i'm not refering about man of the match at all,i'm speaking about only MOS then why you comment about MOM with out any reason..yes i never used to read your comments in attention because i know there is nothing going to be interesting info about cricket or vision for team india..just crap about old sachin..:). i never want to say this to you because you should always aware of this..:)I'm happy atleast now you realized..:)
RE:To bublu bhuyan...
by prabha karan on Mar 06, 2008 09:30 AM
continuation......again what are the runs in the reamining onedayers against pakistan..i guess all "single" digits..no wonder in that..you will not picture those.because you want only his good records in the collection of series.so in pakistan series he is not at all a match winner.in test series against australia the match winner for india in second test is ishant sharma,but again there is no use in talking that because still india has lost the test series to australia.finally in the oneday cb series,the match winners are bowlers like ishant sharma and praveen not tendulkar.he just used their efforts to chase the low scoring total in first final.In the second final,this is bowlers who did the job for india to restrict australia before chasing the low score total of 258.if australia was in well form in batting then they have scored 258 very easily becuase they are the team who easily score 300 in chasing as well in targetting setting.
RE:To bublu bhuyan...
by Another Indian on Mar 06, 2008 09:33 AM
IF India was well in form prabha, we would have won the world cup.. IF Sachin was well in form in WC 2007, he would have scored the first triple century in ODIs.. :-)
RE:To bublu bhuyan...
by rahul on Mar 06, 2008 09:59 AM
bhayya prabhakaran go and sleep man why ur awake,as per ur say then nobody is a match winner, if u take dravis double hundred last year then he is not alone as agarkar took 6 if he had not then the match would have been a draw, bhayya first learn what is the menaing of a match winner , learn to analyse the stats properly, remove that negative mind set and see things positively, tendulkar already answered critics like u by saying those who have not done anything on field will say somethings as they cant play. if u have guts then go and play on field , face brett lee hit him for a four down the ground or hit an uppercut of Shoib akthat or coem down the track to McGrahth and hit him for a straight six and then talk or else best way is leave the forum and go to sleep
RE:RE:To bublu bhuyan...
by prabha karan on Mar 06, 2008 10:16 AM
rahul..cool down man.remember you are not cricketer and i too the same..your comments looks funny..go and get some breathe..so you accept your 'master' struggles and got piss when he face lee,shoib etc..yeah now i got why he score dot balls for those bolwers..you crap understand there can be man of match in the team who lose the match..but there can be a match winner in the team who win the match..there is no use in talking with you insane guys..you dont read stata however because you never going to understand anything whatever you read..what a joke ..did sachin hit sixes in mccgrath ball..may be but remember how he got out in his balls at all the time..there is one trick that mccgrath has and that he know how to get out this what you called master...thank god that mccgrath retired and bough some life for this old crap to play some innings,which brings some life for this insane sachin fans to shout for something...now you go and jump up and down and shout like fool..
RE:To bublu bhuyan...
by Another Indian on Mar 06, 2008 10:21 AM
Hey Rahul.. I see you engaging in a needless rattle with some guys on this forum. Back off mate. Sincere advice. Cheers!
As he scores more runs, the total goes past some past landmarks, which get highlighted somewhere.
Guess what? That is considered to be an undue comparison by some. I mean, if I say India's economy is growing at 10% whereas US economy is growing at 5% (wild guess), what sin am I committing?
Have I said anything about the average per-capita income? Have I said George Bush is a worse leader than Manmohan Singh?
But somehow, the self-appointed pundits of the world will jump upon this opportunity to slang and belittle all parties concerned.
RE:Sachin's crime!
by Gautam Kaulgud on Mar 06, 2008 10:27 AM
Another Indian...Cool down man, Let the so called pundits criticize Sacin. We, the loyal fans of Sachin will keep supporting him and watching him. Kisine kaha hai na, "Kutto ke bhaukne se, Haathi apna rasta nahi badalte"
And then Dhoni himself has said, "Sachin is an institution, his mere presence is enough for picking India up"
Up to this week's performance in Sydney and Brisbane, I thought Viv Richards was just ahead of Sachin, but now Tendulkar has gone miles ahead as the world's best in my lifetime.
But in the context of recent performance in Australia, we must appreciate the great aggressive captaincy of MS Dhoni and the ultra-aggressive performance of Harbhajan.
Never have I seen a player who could take the mind game up to the Australians as good as Harbhajan did. He destroyed their psyche.
Needless to say, Ishant Sharma was a revelation, and now Gautam Gambhir, Rohit Sharma, Praveen Kumar, Piyush Chawla will have to be regarded as permanent fixtures for the foreseeable future. Even if Robin Uthappa, Irfan Pathan, Munaf Patel were erratic in batting and bowling, they made up in great fielding, which also counts.
But we have to appreciate this as part of an aggressive evolution started by Saurav Ganguly, for which all Indians should be grateful for. Ganguly brought self-respect of Indian players to the world, which was being slightly lost during Dravid's tenure and rectified by Kumble and MS Dhoni.
So Sachin's performance has to be seen in the context of an aggressive captain with very good brains, and an ultra-agressive team prepared to do everything to get it right.
With such a team, we finally saw a Sachin who could play in a relaxed way in the knowledge that he now had a team of young, dedicated and agrressive players who can take the pressure off him.
RE:Dhoni, Harbhajan, Sachin - a giant team
by hindublogger on Mar 06, 2008 09:38 AM
Bill ..Richards was the best of his era and Sachin is the best of his era ..other comparisons are futile ..tacks were faster in 70s and 80s ..and we cant assume how sachin would have fared without helmet then and ..we dunno how Richards would have fared with the tremendous media pressure that sachin had to face .. Conditions have changed a lot in these tow eras..
RE:Dhoni, Harbhajan, Sachin - a giant team
by azeem on Mar 06, 2008 10:16 AM
prabakaran the huge record of tendulkar is a pride of indians.and he played well for india and that what he achieved.it doesnt mean he only play for records.u want the batsmen hitting sixes only.how much pressure is there will only 1know who bats there i love tendulkar and his game. azeem.
RE:Dhoni, Harbhajan, Sachin - a giant team
by prabha karan on Mar 06, 2008 09:42 AM
ha ha ha..richards to tendulkar..richard is real legend in world cricket ever time..who plays for team not for records..dont compare this selfish player like sachin to greatest ever like richards...get out from here
RE:Dhoni, Harbhajan, Sachin - a giant team
by joydeep das on Mar 06, 2008 10:37 AM
hi prabha karan i dont know who u r neither i know whether u v got a perfect mental balance or not but i m sure u r not an indian at all. its clear from your posts (all those shits)and is also very evident that u dont have any cricketing knowledge. if sachin cant be called match winner, i dont know who else can be called as match winner. i would like to request you go and get your datas straight with the winning matches u please add to those numbers where for sheer stupidity of some players his good works turned out in a losing side. ya i m saying this go and check it out very well. i can assure you they are in quite a good numbers. so before making this kind of idiotic remarks please keep in mind no body in this planet can single handedly win you matches. you need to have support of your team to achieve a win. i think you got my point (but having some doubt as we have already seen your mental balance and brain capacity!!!!)
RE:Dhoni, Harbhajan, Sachin - a giant team
by prabha karan on Mar 07, 2008 01:44 AM
joydeep..you sound like you are already living in mental hospital for curing your brain..with out BRAIN:):)...well now you got a computer to type something rubbish and shout like pig..listen data's or records got nothing to with winning matches and too especiallly in big finals...yeah..i understand no body can win the match in single hand.but remember we are not offending that he should play single handely..but we want to know when he play in finals or chasing runs on a huge total recently..never..he can bat and score some runs in first batting but not chasing..even if he score some runs in second batting his runrate is not all equal to the required run rate and so he leave the field in the middle due to that pressure...Ex:when schewag score 83 in world cup 2003 final chasing a huge total he just got out for a single digit..in that match schewag maintain a good runrate..but no use there is nil contribution from him..there are lot of examples like that..the only difference is that you guys are good in keeping the records to mention at times because naturally sachin fans are crazy about the records so they maintain that..by any chance if you get a chance to see his bating performance recently then remember to collect all the data of his performance in finals..and in chasing 300 runs..recently...i dont think you have that capacity to understand cricket..anyway if you get that then we can give you a prize among mentals that you are no:1..now get out from here and just try that.
RE:Dhoni, Harbhajan, Sachin - a giant team
by hindublogger on Mar 06, 2008 09:44 AM
Dude ..am a fan of both of them and watched both of them enough on TV ..and I dont think comparison is appropriate.
We As Indians must be proud for Tendulkars achivement. People would say he is playing for records then WHY OTHERS ARE NOT ABLE TO PLAY THE SAME /SIMILAR /BETTER THAN TENDULKAR?
RE:Great Achivement
by suhail sharik on Mar 06, 2008 09:28 AM
just wait folks kallis is going to upstage all batting records.he is just 32 years of age and in prime form.he averages more than tendulkar and ponting.its only a matter of time unless like the insurers say there will be "an act of god."
RE:Great Achivement
by dschandrashekar on Mar 06, 2008 09:46 AM
records are there to break but recoed was in my name fro some time----It was sunil Gavaskars words -when hishighest centuries record was broken--I would like to remind fro ur referance----but --but---but---why is the fashion that we indians are liberal to develop great about foreners achievements---to the extent to anticipate the break of Indian players record.
Rediff - Can you stop this "Records" nonsense. If a player plays for 18 years, he is bound to break all records. We are fed up of seeing this nonsense day in and day out.
RE:Stop this nonsense
by Alok Bhattacharya on Mar 06, 2008 09:08 AM
Yes. True ! But has he played 1800 matches ?? Just check out the list above. He has scored the most runs with an eye soothing average more than any one else (except Bradman) in a comparatively less number of matches i.e 85. Others might not have played for 18years but have scored less runs than him in more matches played by him. There lies the difference between an Indian and a ...
RE:RE:Stop this nonsense
by hindublogger on Mar 06, 2008 09:41 AM
Alok ..more number of matches .Thatz not true :). The number of matched played exploded after mid nineties .. till then we had hardly one or two series per year and a tournament here and there.
RE:Stop this nonsense
by CricFan01 on Mar 06, 2008 09:13 AM
Yes Sachin's average and performance is 2nd to only Bradman, I agree. But rediff should not make this look like a big thing. According to me this is a milestone not a record. As Sunil Gavaskar rightly said when he reached 29 centuries that he did not equal Bradman's record but just reached a milestone because Bradman scored 29 hundreds in 52 games Vs 99 games that Gavaskar took.
Yes, Sachin Tendulkar is a failure. He has achieved nothing over these years, and as long as these obonoxious weeds (the fake indian audience who critisize him) are there, he will never be able to achieve anything and we wont get a chance to celebrate the success of a true celebrity!
RE:Tendulkar is a failure!
by jobiluke on Mar 06, 2008 09:55 AM
Dear Alok, r u talking of the Tendulkar of the Indian Kabadi team or the Tendulkar of the Indian ko-ko team ??
Is money making a crime? We say the cricketers make money sorry they do not, their performance does they do not get signed because they are good looking they get the money only if they are performing. We think they are doing ad so they are not performing actually it%u2019s the other way round they get ad because they are performing. The day the performance dips so does the ads and the money. If cricketers are greedy then they need to perform better and even better otherwise no one will pay them.Yes if Sachin has made a lot of money that means he is consistently performing for long. The ad and commercial world is ruthless and cruel they drop people as soon as they lose their form. Sachin is the most hardworking cricketers of all times. He even practices in the hotel room during tours no wonder he is the best and is making money.I wish Sachin makes more money and becomes a billionaire. Anyone with such dedication will become rich be it cricket, football, corporate world, creative arts etc Students should read about Sachin when they re in their teens as he is the right role model. Think what would happen to you when you are 16 and you are the most popular person in the nation, its easy to lose ones head when you get everything when you are 16. At 16 Sachin was mature as a 36 years old guy. He is greatest batsman no doubt, but you see his life that%u2019s much greater. In 18 years of cricket he has no controversies, no dissent in spite of being given out many times when he was
RE:Great man. Hats off.
by on Mar 06, 2008 09:36 AM
Dear Hitesh Sharma, You said it all. My compliments to you for explaining the facts so neatly in nut shell. All those who understand and appreciate the facts which you have put in will be always proud of Sachin. People like Raman Subramanya (mentally sick) and all others who are not matured or achieved any thing in life will keep on critising / writing non-sense stuff like this. While the whole world acknowledges and appreciates what Sachin has done for Cricket and India a few stupid own country men are trying to malign the greatest cricketer of all time with out even knowing ABC of cricket (Obnoxious weeds) ."ENOUGH IS ENOUGH".I strongly feel that Rediff stops displaying such opinions which have no substance, credibility or gravity.
RE:Great man. Hats off.
by CHANDRASHEKHAR REGE on Mar 06, 2008 10:11 AM
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Dear Hitesh Sharma, It was me appreciating your views at 09.36 am today.I wish to add one more fact.Sachin was matured enough at the age of 16 years boy as a 34 years old guy and now at the age of 34 years he has energy level of 16 year boy .You should have definitely watched him running between the wickets for stealing non existing run. What do you say ?
RE:Great man. Hats off.
by Hrishikesh Rajeshwarker on Mar 06, 2008 09:12 AM
Hi I do 200% aggree with you. Apart from his hard work and see hsi dedication he is making money because he has to stay far aways from his family most of times for playinng.. Many people says there life is vary good I say there life is more tedious than any other common man .. as there each movement will be wathced by so many people.. Hats of to sachin..
