Well done India despite 2-1 scoreline. Now lets start planning for Aus series in Oct 08 in India NOW and make sure we win it and win it well! Hopefully they do well in the ODI series too.
sachin not only score highest runs in series and played well against brett lee easily the best bowler in world now dare to say standard of bowling is decreasing from all team gavaskar could have an average above 60 againgst this tpe of boling attack.coming back to sachin he stand by his team member that proves he is real team man ,saurav team feeling is disspointing in a interview to harsha bhogle he praise australia in there conquest to win by hook or crook,I think that the main reason why dhoni don't want him in the oneday.
RE:sachin
by Sangeetha on Jan 29, 2008 03:28 AM
Dhoni does not know how to bat on fast track. He reacts late to fast bowlers especially on fast track. He needs to improve on attacking fast bowlers.
RE:sachin
by abhishek chatterjee on Jan 28, 2008 10:48 PM
well, Thats why all indian players who were groomed under his leadership(inc Dhoni) says he is the best captain they have seen so far. Please avoid making some oout of context remarks buddy!
RE:sachin
by Sameer K on Jan 28, 2008 11:49 PM
ha ha groomed, ya sure, the guy who spoiled Anil Kumbles one day career, the guy who dropped Robin Singh even though he performed, the guy who destroyed career of Aakash Gupta by openly giving a interview during the on going tests in pakistan that Yuvraj should think of opening and immediately Aakash gupta knew he was going to be dropped and it happened. Ya he groomed some who he thought would always obey his commands as he knew the seniors didnt like him cause of his scoring only against Minnows in tests and later between 2002 to 2005 even in one dayers.
Ausies cricketers tried to use their old sledging weapon against India. They forgot that this time India and Indian team is different. So they are caught between devil and deep sea. Either way they are loosers
When Sourav Ganguly scored few runs in South Africa, all hell had broken loose, he had become great and was highest run getter in that series. But it was due to the fact that Sachin, Laxman and Dravid were in the worst form of their lives.
In form Ganguly in SA in 2006/2007 scored 214 runs in 3 Tests with 2 fifties and a average of 42.80, an out of form sachin scored 199 in 3 matches and 6 innings with 2 fifties and a average of 33.16. Again a out of form Laxman scored 180 runs in same 3 tests and 6 innings with 2 fifties and a average of 36. Similary Dravid too was out of form and in same no of innings and test scored 125 runs with no fifties and a average of 20.83.
Now look at Australian tour, in form Ganguly, not just inform the great batsmen who was scoring 100s and 200s on Indian pitches against a depleted bowling attack scored 235 runs in 4 matches and 8 innings, with 2 fifties and a average of 29.35. Sachin now in form scored 493 runs with 2 fifties and 2 hundreds at a average of 70.42, similary Laxman scored 366 runs with 2 fifties and one hundred at a average of 45.75, Dravid's bad form continued and he scored 237 runs with 2 fifties at a average of 33.85.
Moral of the story Ganguly becomes a great batsmen after scoring 200 runs in 3 match series, but when Sachin, Dravid and Laxman are out of form and score 15 to 40 runs less than Ganguly.
If Gilchrist retired gracefully in this series, d flat pitch batting wonder of test cricket shud he forced to retire by BCCI.
RE:Batsmen Comparisions
by abhishek chatterjee on Jan 28, 2008 10:53 PM
well, its not the number of run you score, its the circumstances and the usefulness of that run in achieving the victory that matters! I am not in favor of Sachin nor ganguly. But that matters. Also, In INDIA's most successful Captains (Ganguly, you have no option but agree to this dude) words " Dont make someone HERO overnight and also dont make someone ZERO overnight".
RE:Batsmen Comparisions
by mayukh mandal on Jan 28, 2008 11:07 PM
Then BCCI before force him to retire Doni, Yuvi should retire....only one series does not say everything....look at the decision always his against...when he in the good form always he is facing bad decision... may be all other bat are also sometime facing such but he is facing more than any other...........so before comment anything think twice...
RE:Batsmen Comparisions
by gourab majumdar on Jan 29, 2008 12:16 AM
Thats true even in third test he faced a bad decision. and in first 2 matches when DADA was in form he scored like one dayers all others fell like pack of cards..while he scored.....
RE:Batsmen Comparisions
by Nrupesh Somaiya on Jan 30, 2008 01:41 AM
I completely agree with u as We need Dada and even Laxman to play against Aussie and i don't believe likes of Raina, Gambhir or Uthaapa will come into play as they don't know Aussie conditions and all 3 can be plumb LBW on fast tracks as they move to middle of crease even before ball is bowled (technically speaking)
one bad session by indians in sysdeny changed the scenario of the series otherwise it would be 1-1 series and that would have been good result for our indians .indians are improving there record of away wins that good .and day would come that indians would be winners in australia and southafrica .
RE:one bad session and some bad decisions
by aaaa on Jan 28, 2008 10:04 PM
one person stood against defeat in Adelaide. that was shewag in the second innings.
Nobody is talking about the Melbourne defeat. India went to the match without any practice and aclimatisation. BCCI is to be blamed for this. It would have been 2-1 in favour of India but for Melbourne and Sydney defeat.
RE:if this is an abusive message god help that soul
by Seenu Subbu on Jan 28, 2008 09:12 PM
Kannada nexus? Didn't know Pathan spoke Kannada. Or wait, is it that he had done so well earlier, scoring 46 runs and expressing interest to develop as an all rounder? Ooh, too bad he flopped, but the idea of "night watchman" has been as old as the game of cricket itself, and I'm sure I know what language you speak. Or perhaps you are one of those disgruntled folks having had some issues with your work in Bangalore.
RE:RE:if this is an abusive message god help that soul
by aaaa on Jan 28, 2008 10:27 PM
Pathan is not a superman to bowl 40 odd overs and then go and help the team by opening in the second innings. Dravid should have partnered Shewag(only on the basis he did in the first 3 tests before).
Would it have helped Shewag given how slow Dravid bats is another question? As we saw until Dravid was at the wicket Shewag was struggling and then suddenly when Tendulkar came he was attacking....
RE:RE:RE:if this is an abusive message god help that soul
by Spitting Cobra on Jan 29, 2008 06:30 AM
As we show Sehwag was sheag regardless who was at the other end. We all saw how fluently he scored century in 123 balls, regardless it was Dravid or Tendulker at the other end.
Dravid and Tendulya played supporting rolw for Sehwag, as required for that situation..
RE:RE:RE:RE:if this is an abusive message god help that soul
by aaaa on Jan 29, 2008 10:08 PM
yes i guess you watched the game aint it... i did watch it and that is how i drew the thoughts. If you dont watch it completely dont write based on reading a few reports or the scorecard.
has to rely on his instincts and stand by it even if it fails. there is no point in following what goes on in the play...
eg...=> anticipating play and keeping slips is better than seeing a ball fly through the slip before placing a slip fielder.
kumble did not show any attacking ability particularly when harbhajan kept bowling 7 overs too.o much outside Hayden's offstump when India has 500 runs on board.
RE:a good captain
by aaaa on Jan 28, 2008 10:03 PM
had i been the captain i would not have used pathan as the sacrificial lamb. I would have asked someone who has opened before to partner Shewag. Pathan is not superman.
What lessons did india learn from adelaide. Absoulte zero. If it was not for Shewag india would have lost the test.
RE:a good captain
by aaaa on Jan 28, 2008 10:31 PM
as a captain i meant shewag is a thinker. One instance in this series comes and should be known to people is bowlign ishant for one more over, which got the wicket of ponting.
WRT praising batsmen mind you Adelaide is traditionally a batsmen's paradise until the ball turns old at which point it takes reverse swing.
And then on days 4 and 5 the pitch breaks up( it didn't this time).
Finally shewag did well when it mattered ie Indians under pressure during the second innings. Indians continue to cause self inflicted demise when they bat defensively.
RE:a good captain
by Lotiya Pathan on Jan 29, 2008 06:31 AM
You're very much saying what Ian Chappel and Slater were saying on Channel nine commentory... They both su*ck anyway...lol
RE:RE:a good captain
by aaaa on Jan 30, 2008 03:03 AM
hey dufus : this is what stephen waugh says...in todays the hindu.
ofcourse you can continue to think you know better and live in your one dimensional world... former Australian captain Steve Waugh tipped the opener ahead of Mahendra Singh Dhoni to replace Anil Kumble as the next Test captain of India.
%u201CIndia will be searching sooner rather than later for a replacement for the ageing Anil Kumble and an unlikely candidate has emerged during the last two Tests in Virender Sehwag,%u201D Waugh said.
%u201CHis game-saving fourth innings in Adelaide revealed a cricketer who has finally realised that talent alone doesn%u2019t guarantee consistent results.
%u201CHe has always been a debonair, swashbuckling type who refused to dilute his instinctive play, but in Adelaide he elevated his game by adjusting to the conditions and showing his teammates that the team result came before his ego,%u201D Waugh wrote in his column in the Daily Telegraph.
Maturity
Sehwag, who was out of the Indian team for almost a year due to a form slump, made people take note of his maturity which benefited even 38-year-old Kumble, who was seen consulting him on-field during the matches.
%u201CHe also became increasingly involved in on-field discussions and by out bowling his more illustrious teammate Harbhajan Singh it revealed a man high on confidence and ready to fulfil his destiny,%u201D he said.
RE:RE:a good captain
by aaaa on Jan 29, 2008 10:23 PM
the ability of a person depends on not taking things by the face value but willingness to learn and use it.
I know based on your reputation in this rediff forum not to argue with you.
If you are not critical then you can't expect team india continue to be a close challenger to team australia.
based on watching the series i know there are things that team india should do to improve. But i am not going to explain it here as it will fell on deaf ears and there is no point i should spend time and energy as I wont get any cent from them doing very well.
RE:a good captain
by explorer on Jan 28, 2008 10:30 PM
Kumble is called as the role model captain by Shane Warne and Peter Roebuck told that selectors were wrong by delaying making Kumble as captain.
Kumble's placements and usage of bowlers was appreciated all former cricketers. Above all Kumble's own performance that helped him lead with Authoriy was full of praise. I think we need to accept that Kumble did very well. If we remember how Kumble was criticised for his positive statements before this tour. But today he proved what he told but for the Sydney trazedy.
RE:RE:a good captain
by aaaa on Jan 28, 2008 10:32 PM
Sorry if you mean ESPN then yes. But not where i watched the game on channel 9. You can't claim everyone is biassed. Ian Healy is biassed but not Ian Chappel, Bill Lawry and Richie Benaud.
For the record Ian criticized when Ponting wasted time for back trouble.
RE:RE:RE:a good captain
by Lotiya Pathan on Jan 29, 2008 06:36 AM
For the records, the same Chappell and Slater hammered Dravid for time wasting, when he got his fingure hurt and physio was out to help him..
RE:RE:RE:RE:a good captain
by aaaa on Jan 29, 2008 10:11 PM
yes this is the place where i disagree with those guys... as you see nothing is black and white like you think.
RE:a good captain
by aaaa on Jan 28, 2008 10:35 PM
i am not critizing his positive comments. In the field he was always following by placing fielders where the ball went... this is not how a captain, a shrewd captain should be.
Once you follow the ball the batsmen will become aware and then he wont play that 99% of the time.
RE:Ganguly has no Comparison
by Sameer Khan on Jan 28, 2008 09:52 PM
yes Gandguly does not deserve to be compared with players such as sachin, laxman, Rahul....etc
India would have won this test series 4-0, if Ganguly would have been the captain....The tiger is roaring to start but he is being ignored as a Cat...how painful
RE:RE:Install ganguly as Captain
by Sangeetha on Jan 29, 2008 03:33 AM
What a decision!!Agreed! As per your suggestion, from now on, effective from today,Gangauly is installed as Indian captain for Handicap cricket team for next 15 years.
RE:Install ganguly as Captain
by krushna sahoo on Jan 29, 2008 02:52 PM
though ganguly is the best captain India has ever produced still all know he is a selfish person and always loves those person who likes him but this is true he is agressive and replies all teams in their words.........even Dhoni is not a gud captain,though India won 20-20 world cup there was no contribution from Dhoni and in overseas he is just a complete useless player whom india is sticking around.....
RE:RE:Install ganguly as Captain
by krushna sahoo on Jan 29, 2008 02:54 PM
Laxman should be made as next test captain who is very down to earth and a great batsman who has saved India in mosat occasions....
