Have you guys noticed how smart is Procter. He says that it is irrelevent for him to take notice what happened between Harbhajan & Symonds. If some one try to kill me & in defence if I killed attacker. & if Proctor is Judge them sure he will give me life sentence because for him it is irrelevent who is attacker. For him only matters is I did kill somebody. Also for him it is relevent to take note what happen in Mummbai few months back. He tries to prove that all Indians are racist.
With this logic can he dare to put ban on Symonds / Ponting & Clarke for lifetime as they cheated/ manipulated during Sydney match while duing batting/ fielding.
Indian public jago. Koi bhi ata hai aur tumko gali deta hai.
Is this what match refrees do and this is a frigging report, can't believe they get paid for this. There is not one substantial piece of evidence in this `report`, it's a list of opinions!! , WTF?
This is worse than what happens in gully cricket. This is what it must have felt like being in court and being tried pre-independence!! Going by this report, Procter seems to be the bigger racist and Gavaskar was spot on, even today the white man's opinion has a lot more value than a brown man's opinion
RE:What the heck
by Gadi Mama on Jan 25, 2008 04:16 AM
This definitly worst than gully cricket. 1) Andrew Symonds keep on playing inspite he was out at 30 in first inning. By this act he shows that he is lier & manipulator by nature 2)Clarke claimed ground touch catch so also proved that he is also lier & manipulator.
Why can't Indian team members present their make these points to prove that these proven liers testimony can't stand in this case untill someone neutral (Umpires/ Sachin) support them or there claims proved by Audio tape or lip reading from video tape. Why can't rediff use its website to spread more word about Symonds/ Clarke/ Ponting's manipulating characters. The way this issue is handled by Australian & Indian Journalist it is proved that Australian's are smart. In their newspapers they did not mentioned about cheating done by Astralian team from day 2nd after this case. Instead they started giving backdoor support to there team like "Team done bad things but should be reamin agressive" or "They should forget & start looking to win next match" blh blah.
RE:hmm
by Calspadeaspade on Jan 25, 2008 02:27 AM
You are so irrelevant. That kind of bigotry exists every where. But the issue here is whether Bhajji called him a monkey? There is no concrete evidence. He may jolly well be a racist but most of the racists dont show it all the time. Indians have a big color complex and preference just like western people like blue eyes and blond hair. But that is not really racism. Your pont is just because there is regionalism casteism etc any Indian guy accused of racism should be convicted. By the same token even you should be called racist with out evidence because you belong to a country that has regionalism/caste etc.
RE:RE:hmm
by aaaa on Jan 25, 2008 02:39 AM
to me eventhough Harbhajan will likely escape based on things that happened in that hearing(you got to read more than indian news for that). But this is the best thing that happened to indian society.
So far people continue to bash and receive it without fear of reprisal. Now that this has made news people will be more vigilant. I hope so.
RE:hmm
by JM on Jan 25, 2008 05:55 AM
If you cared less, you wouldnt be here vomiting a 500 words that not even your wife will read, but then you couldnt be married to vomit 500 words that no one reads.
RE:hmm
by Vinayak Gokhale on Jan 25, 2008 07:25 AM
I don't even know why you are writing here. I mean, this isn't a website for folks whose ancestors were criminals to write on. You guys are there only because there was no place for criminals left in England and they had to be shipped to Australia. That is how you blokes came into being. You are left outs. Nobodies. Why do you even take the time to write here? And you call US uneducated? Geez....look at your grammar
RE:hmm
by Calspadeaspade on Jan 26, 2008 09:52 PM
We should not indulge in trashing a nation as convicts. We must just stick to the issue. The nation that sent convicts were the ones who colonialised India and hanged people. In those days the governments were very unjust and very easily convicted poor people. Indian friens please stop refering to aussies as convicts just because of a few over zealous Aussie cricketers and one Mr.Proctor who is not from Australia.
RE:hmm
by Kerry Hadley on Jan 26, 2008 06:14 AM
to vinvayak, you keep referring to Australians as convicts, shows how little you know, for the umpteenth time, a very small proportion of Australians where actual convicts, the higher proportion where free settlers, and in actual fact if India transported criminals for stealing some bread then a high proportion of Indians would have been transported. these where a lot of the crimes committed by poor people in england, Scotland, Ireland. so before you make suppositions make sure you have your fact straight.
we may be nobodies but that don't make you any better. total stupid and inflammatory, antagonistic statement of no value.
RE:hmm
by aaaa on Jan 25, 2008 02:37 AM
your last 2 points dont even make sense. Anyways you guys argue till the cows come home. And i guess be ready to stand in the streets with effigies of Procter, Speed, Pawar etc., to burn.
RE:RE:hmm
by Calspadeaspade on Jan 25, 2008 03:23 AM
Yes I concur with you. Indians are racists. Racism exists everywhere. Infact Bhajji should be reprimanded for using curse words that can be construed as something else. India should ban such problem players with history of controversies.
RE:hmm
by Calspadeaspade on Jan 25, 2008 03:19 AM
I am not here to argue about it. I am sick of people making irrelevant comparisons and arguments and bringing in caste and religion. these problem and bigotry exists every where. But that is not relevant to the issue here.
Is he not suposed to hear from both parties before concluding; clear mis conduct and abuse of power of a match refree "I dismiss any suggestion of motive or malice" he is supposed to be nutral and not think on his own but to the merit of the charges to add to the vows "Whatever may have been said between them prior to Harbhajan Singh calling Andrew Symonds a monkey is irrelevant. There is a history between these two players" knowing there is history means he wanted to take advantage of the past to blame Harbhajan. this is injustice not aginst one player but a country! very foolish from Mike procter he disgraces himslef and his position. very sad for Cricket.
Just like Aussies did, Indians should conspire against top Aussie players such as BretLee or Hayden and tell the match referee they .
Will the referee ban those players just on the word of Indians?
This 2-bit low-life referee does not understand that one cannot be convicted without proof. If the only proof required is teammates testifying, then anyone can have anyone banned.
Proctor is the racist. He was a racist against blacks in his own country (SA) and now he is racist against brown and black teams.
White man's word against brown man's word- white man wins! This is WHITE MANS JUSTICE
RE:India should bring a charge against Aus top player
by Kerry Hadley on Jan 26, 2008 07:00 AM
to jm, that would make the indians no better than they very thing they are screaming about.
as far as racial, take a good look at yourself before you accuse others of being a racist.
RE:India should bring a charge against Aus top player
by Kerry Hadley on Jan 26, 2008 05:34 PM
typical reply of a low grade intelect. well I am really worried (not) if that is the best you can do.
Although I am not sure if he called him a monkey to 'racially' abuse him. I mean what does a Punjab da Puttar know about racial tensions in a western world. He probably did not realize that it would snowball into such a big issue like this.
who is really racist in this case ...... as Mr. gavskar already told that procter is actually the real racist.... we all appriciate his comment even racist supporting madia not satisfied from above comment.it's all about their own created prob.
RE:who is really racisiest
by Isaac on Jan 25, 2008 12:41 AM
Well said! a brown man words never heared, MIke Stupid Procter was so foolish not to think of consequences, should be intresting to see what the final verdict be....
RE:who is really racisiest
by JM on Jan 25, 2008 06:00 AM
A brown man makes a judgement on what is said....so, NO, a brown man does not blindly believe another brown man just because of skin color...much like the whites.
RE:who is really racisiest
by Kerry Hadley on Jan 26, 2008 07:14 AM
your remark there alone is racial. the colour of skin has nothing to do with whether you believe or not believe it has to do with the honesty and character of the person.
turn it around and what would you expect proctor to do, if symonds had racially abused harby, and harby had 2 Indian witnesses and symonds had 1 that didn't really hear what went on. would you expect then proctor to believe the Indians over the Australians then, I would expect proctor to still do the same. and I would say that you would want the Indians word to be accepted. so cut the cr@p and racial abuse. why is so hard to accept that maybe harby said what he did.
RE:who is really racisiest
by JM on Jan 26, 2008 11:39 AM
Hey Moron Hadley, read again what I have written. Color of the skin has nothing to with judgment.
For Bhajji (and Indians) abusing parents and religion may be more offensive than race. Who is proctor (with a small 'p') and ICC to say abusing religion and family and wife (like Aussies do while using "mate-ship" language) is ok?
And 2, if Bhajji had been abused by Symonds, Proctor would have given Symonds a slap on thw wrist and fined both Bhajji and Symonds a small fine. (Bhajji for instigating Symonds)
Bloody racists led by the Aussie racist- Malcolm Speed
RE:who is really racisiest
by Kerry Hadley on Jan 26, 2008 05:42 PM
to jm, why don't you take your head out of your own rear, its raving twits like you that give India the bad name they have.
you wouldn't even know what "mateship" language is, that alone prooves what I dipstick you are. if your brains where dynamite you would not have enough to blow yourself up with.
what's the matter don't like it when no one agrees with your racist rantings.
