We should thank Mr.Prem Panicker for informing the general public the similar facts & grounds from 2003 series of Pak-Bangladesh for banning Ponting. It is really surprising & shocking that Mr.Proctor was the Match Refree who banned Captain R.Latif for unfair appeal. But in case of Ponting who is culprit twice (Once while he claimed Dhoni's catch which was grounded by him and secondly he endorsed Clark's unfair appeal against Ganguly to influence Umpire & got Ganguly out)Mr.Proctor forgothis earlier verdict & justification of ban against R.Latif.We should not forget that Mr.Proctor belongs to the era & the Team which was banned from Intl.Cricket for their apartheid policy.His "No Action" against Ponting clearly proves that he still suffers from racial feelings against Indians. BCCI should bring this also to the notice of ICC. And all our media should also highlight Proctor's such dubious act world over to expose him. Now the time has come to counter these racially biased peaople effectively.
RE:Why Ponting should be banned.
by Sudip Halder on Jan 09, 2008 03:52 PM
boss, it was for Pakistan, all these are for India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka & India, not for Australia, England, South Africa or New Zealand.
Did u forgetthe lbw decession of Tendulkar, Bucknor gave out when the ball hit tendulkar's head, it was in the last series, a new out HBW.
More to come, until and unless we asian make pannel or committee. Keep Imran Khan (President), Sunil Gavaskar (C.E.O), Miandad (V.P.), Ravi Sashtri (CONTROLER), Dilip Mendis (GENERAL SECRETARY), Ranatunga (TREASURER) , Saurav Ganguli (TECHNICAL ADVISOR) in the top positions and see what happens. Oh Sidhu shoud be the spokes person.
RE:Why Ponting should be banned.
by Rakesh Chatterjee on Jan 09, 2008 03:46 PM
We should not blame Mr. Procter for no action, as he can't take any action unless there's a case filed by a side. Much like the police can't investigate a burglary unless the victim files a complaint first. So, it's upto the BCCI or indian team manager to file a complaint against Ponting for these misbehaviours first and then Mr. procter to act.
RE:Please please don't get ban Ponting!
by Alok Pande on Jan 09, 2008 03:04 PM
Ponting should be reomoved from the team as a player as well as a captain. He does not deserve a place in the team.
In a way whatever happened in second test was good. Now Australians are exposed and everyone in the world now knows how much dishonest Australians are, and how they play cricket. They are not professional players and they do nto play with honesty.
RE:Australians are exposed
by Alok Pande on Jan 09, 2008 03:07 PM
why can't the Indian team get the same from their wives. We should send the hockey team as well as the wrestlers for resurrecting their wives. They will really become surrogates.
RE:Australians are exposed
by Kerry Hadley on Jan 16, 2008 02:00 PM
to rahesh and others, no need for sexual innuendo's this is a cricket board not a dirty little online site, so why don't you take your mind out of the gutter and give some intelligent input, because do you think that there might be some children reading this,
RE:Australians are exposed
by shankar ravi on Jan 09, 2008 01:46 PM
hey they are really interested n their integrity was never needed to be tested. tests are done only if there is any integrity left but wat to test wen there is nothin there to test for. common ICC now sack me or ban me fr 3 TEST MATCHES fr ur code or conduct.... useless fellows
RE:Australians are exposed
by Pavan Dodagatta Kumar! on Jan 09, 2008 02:27 PM
I completely agree with Sam, the Aussies are not professional cricketers. Ponting should be banned for appealing the catch which was grounded. How can they ban Bhajji when there is no evidence?
I wish that reporter retorted back saying that "Well Mr. Ponting, a man with high integrity doesn't stand at the crease and continue to bat even after nicking a ball and the catch is taken"
What is Cheating: Knowingly taking unfair advantage of a situation. By that definition, any batsman who doesn't walk after nicking a ball is a cheater. Its natural instinct of a batsman to look at wicket keeper or slip cordon after he nicks a ball. But of someone doesn't do so and stands his ground, that means he is intending to cheat.
If OZ cricketers say they don't walk and that's how they play the game, then its fine. But at the same time they shouldn't be preaching the visiting teams that they should take the word of the fielder for granted and walk. You can't pick and choose to be honest in one part of the game and say you want to leave it to the umpire in another aspect.
Guys don't tell me that the catching agreement if to save time. Its nonsense. When an umpire can call third umpire to confirm whether a fielder has touched the rope or not before declaring a four (the whole thing would hardly make a difference of 1 or 2 runs), I think he can surely refer dubious catches to third umpire.
And what can we say about the nice man of OZ cricket Gilchrist...there is no way a wicket keeper can't see that the ball didn't touch the Rahul Dravid's bat. But he still appealed and worse celebrated the dismissal. Now he says he is not sorry...So much for his honesty.
RE:Selective Honesty
by on Jan 09, 2008 02:39 PM
Only a few 'honest' players ever played this game. According to the above definition Sachin, Gavasakar, Ponting all are cheats. There is no point in a cheater calling his fellow cheater a cheat. It is all cheating.
RE:Selective Honesty
by on Jan 09, 2008 02:35 PM
Please don't question Gilchrist's integrity. You appeal if you have a doubt/hope that the batsmen is out. You need not be 100% certain to make an appeal. Even if you have 1% hope, you can ask the umpire. How many unsuccessful appeals did Anil Kumble make in his career. Do u call them attempt to cheat?
RE:Selective Honesty
by Yogesh Sheth on Jan 09, 2008 01:57 PM
Also dont you remember Symonds confessed he knew he was out around 30's, but did not return and went on to make 150 plus not out. What about his integrity?
i totally agree with the people here that we should avoid any tour to Australia. it is not just the India with which such things happen, even u can see the way they treat the spinner murlidharan. Actually they are racist in their treatment with asian countries, feeling that they are backward as it can b seen in the postings here by fellow australians.
RE:Ban tour of Australia...
by ravi krishnan on Jan 09, 2008 12:34 PM
aside of the emotional banter waht is ctually needed is for the ICC to become a world body like in all other sport....ICC is the one to blame for it's racist attitude of favouring the white nations at all times....why hasnt the ICC set it's house in order?I believe someone should take Procter to court for being racist and make Speed also a party.....BUT YES! ONE MUST REMEBER WHEN SOUTH AFRICA WAS BANNED FOR PARCTSING APARTHEID....AUSTRALIA WAS PERHAPS THE ONLY NATION WHICH CONTINUED TO PLAY WITH THEM....SO WHAT WE GET TO SEE NOW IS A CONTINUATION OF THE SAME........
RE:Ban tour of Australia...
by Yogesh Sheth on Jan 09, 2008 02:01 PM
Australians probably have accepted Mohammed Ali as their Guru. They follow his practice of always mentally upsetting the opponents. For that, they target either the key players or probably more emotional players.
It is very disterbing that ethics in game of cricket is being SPOKEN, BUT LESS HAS BEEN DONE BY ...
ICC code of conduct( partial judgement aginst team player, under same sercumstances) one get ban of 5 match .. other will be honord... I this will contineu the
RE:CHEAP CRICKET..
by Indian on Jan 10, 2008 06:23 AM
Hi Dnyanesh:
You have an excellent suggestion. And it applies to the Indian cricket team too..
Just playing through those 12 balls would have been a tighter slap on Aussie face than all this post match verbal gymnastics (including the Indian fans).. Indian team also needs to speak less but DO MORE...
RE:RE:CHEAP CRICKET..
by Kerry Hadley on Jan 16, 2008 02:09 PM
well finally a decent post who is far more balanced to the vitriolic outbursts. thanks Indian
If Australian bosses and ponting does not relise and accept their mistake, We all Asia cricket playing countries should unite and keep away from playing with Australia for next 3-5 years. Lets see how it will go with them?? And IPL please stay away from Aussies.
RE:Ban Aussie Cricket in Asia
by nikhil gaikwad on Jan 09, 2008 03:24 PM
Totally agreed.... Cricket should be played between 2 HUMAN teams. Here, Indian Team is playing against a FOX captain leading a troop of 10 MONKEYS and 2 OWL umpires (who cant see anything in sunlight)
The secret of wining record test is now open. Target some one like Bhajji. Fixing a match with oponent team is costlier then fix two umpairs. No doubt Aus. is the strogest team in the world in terms of cheating. Ausis know they can't beat the sansation of GANGULI, SACHIN, DRAVID unless they cheat.
RE:secret is open
by Indian on Jan 10, 2008 06:27 AM
Hello Mr. On:
Pardon me, but was the match fixed with the two "umpairs"?
I think the Indian team did a better job of fixing it. The umpires had spared us the last 3 wickets for some reason with only 2 overs to negotiate....
If you need to FIND a match fixing theory, then how is the above one? Bhajji, RP Singh and Ishant Sharma fixed the match with the Aussies and got out within 5 balls...
