RE:Selection Committee got it wrong again
by on Apr 03, 2008 07:09 AM
It is sad but true that Indian strength of Spin has depleted since Raju's retirement.
RE:Selection Committee got it wrong again
by Lilamber Joshi on Apr 03, 2008 07:46 AM
What a suggestion to call back 45 years oldie to attack proteas.May be Venkatpathy Raju cant walk without a stick now and people want him to play with young 20 yaers team mates.Good joke.
RE:RE:Selection Committee got it wrong again
by Sachin Tiwari on Apr 03, 2008 09:20 AM
well, that's right. Venky was indeed a spinner of very high caliber, but accept the facts -45 yrs oldie. Cricket is just not about throwing balls. He just won't be able to contribute in other depts of the game.
Shoaib Akhtar is Making Lot of Statements About Match Fixing, I was Watching Zee News and Star News, Shoaib Akhtar in an interview with Pakistani Channel Geo TV has Said that he was Offered a Lot of Money for Match Fixing.
He Said than When Pakistan Toured South Africa and India a Lot of Offer was Made By Bookies and "Some of His Pakistani Team Mates".According to Him, Some"South African, Australian and Indian Player's" are Involved in this Match Fixing.In "South Africa's Johannesburg" "Some Pakistani Player's Came With a BriefCase Telling him to Bowl Poorly".
In the Recent "Indian Series" Also He was Offered Money to Bowl Badly, And He Says" Some Indian Players are Also Involved".
He Has Allegdly Slapped Inzamam-ul-Haq, Moin Khan, Mustaque Ahmed and Shahid Afridi for they Brought Offers of Match Fixing To Him, And Told Him to Bowl Poorly and Give Runs to Opposition Batsman, So they Told Him to UnderPerform and Fix the Match By Bowling Badly.
RE:Match Fixing Surfaces Again???????????????????
by Bald Head on Apr 03, 2008 08:32 AM
What was this great chucker doing earlier about this whole match fixing claims? If he were honest he should have reported the matter to PCB as well as gone public.
We know that politicians for long have adopted diversionary tactics successfully, assuming that all public are sheep. Now it seems to be the turn of this guy.
Since he has been slapped with a five year ban, he is trying to divert the attention of fans and cricket lovers by coming out with imaginary or delayed disclosures!
ICC should ensure that players with funny bowling action like Akthar, Lasith Malinga, Shaun Tait etc. are not allowed to play even club cricket.
BCCI's IPL venture, which has the approval of the ICC, is only a child of one-upmanship; a response to the Zee backed ICL venture....
Now having deemed the ICL a rebel venture(God knows how??), the BCCI is all set to launch its IPL. IPL has thrown international cricket calendar out of gear and has led to some rescheduling of future tours, some tinkering with existing itineraries and some conflcits with other boards.. Due to financial muscle of BCCI, it has arm-twisted other boards into black-listing ICL players...the world has lost great cricketers like Shane Bond, Justin Kemp, Abdul Razzak and many more due to whims of BCCI and ICC..
Also, BCCI is tinkering with Indian pitches and sowing down tracks to make them batsman friendly for 20-20 cricket, as a result test cricket is being threatened!!
It is almost as if the purists game is set for relegation and all that the BCCI is interested in is big bucks that 20-20 leagues will bring!! Is BCCI killing global cricket???? I personally think so!!
RE:Is BCCI killing world cricket??
by CricFan01 on Apr 03, 2008 01:35 AM
The greedy BCCI has already killed test cricket. Look at stats, more than 50% of tests in India have been draws in recent years compared to high number of results in other countries. In countries like England, NZ and Aus the crowds are coming back to test cricket as it is more interesting and good contest between bat and ball. BCCI has only offered lip service to test cricket. They schedule 40 odd ODIs in a year compared to 8-10 tests and pay little attention to preparing sporting pitches. All this talk about them trying to make good pitches is crap. If they were really that serious they could have done it long time ago. If IPL really takes off then why would a youngster want to play 5 days of cricket when they can make 4-5 times more with only 25% effort.
RE:Is BCCI killing world cricket??
by Bald Head on Apr 03, 2008 08:40 AM
You are mixing up two different issues dear.
You are entitled your own views on the impact of IPL on world cricket calender and money power of BCCI. I shall not dispute it.
But to say that BCCI is making pitches flat to suit T20 is stretching things too far. Traditionally, Indian pitches were prepared to suit the presumed strength of Indians, i.e. spin bowling. Now most good players of foreign teams have learnt to play spin and interestingly, the very art and craft of spin bowling has virtually become extinct in India. In fact, Govt. of India may be justified if they come out with a statute to protect spinners as a threatened specis.
Secondly, Indian players have always feared facing fast bowlers from abroad, with very few exceptions. You must have forgotten how Sourav withdrew himself from a test match at Nagpur after seeing a greentop pitch a couple of years back!
BCCI should now concentrate on preparation of sporting pitches, since we have bowlers like Ishant Sharma, Sreesanth, R P Singh etc. who can bowl at 135-145 kmph. In the process, BCCI can also ensure that second grade batsmen who thrive on batsmen friendly pitches scoring tons of runs and creating fallacious records are sent packing.
RE:Is BCCI killing world cricket??
by CricFan01 on Apr 03, 2008 08:55 AM
I am not saying that BCCI is preparing dead pitches to suit T20 but BCCI is paying lip service to preparations of sporting pitches. They are focussing mostly on ODIs and T20s (now) as the shorter games are money spinners.
RE:triple century
by Ramasami Naicker on Apr 02, 2008 11:36 PM
Statistically he will be at par with Bradman, Lara, and Sehwag, he will be at par with them even if he takes more than 1000 deliveries to score the 300, and even if Bucknor like umpires give him life after life after life to enable him to hit a 300.
RE:RE:triple century
by CricFan01 on Apr 03, 2008 01:45 AM
That is why you should always compare the opposition's strength in analyzing the statistics. Bradman no doubt has greatest average and no one could break that awesome average. But most of his centuries have come against England (cant blame him as few countries played tests at that time) under mostly known conditions. It would have been interesting to see how he would have performed in such a demanding schedule as now against different teams with millions watching,(over)analyzing and criticizing every movement on the field and even offering "expert" advice. Who knows Gary Sobers would have had an average of 90 if he was playing in 1930s Vs in 1960s.So it is not easy to compare players of two entirely different eras statistically. But I still consider the great Gary Sobers to be the greatest cricketer ever, he could bat anywhere in the order, play any strokes, can bowl fast, swing, slow left arm, chinaman. Additionally was a great close in fielder. Very difficult to see anyone close to him. Even Sir Bradman paid rich compliments to Sobers in a video where he showed Sobers score a majestic 254 in World 1X Vs Aus in 1972 against the great pace attack of Lillee, Thompson & co.
RE:triple century
by CricFan01 on Apr 03, 2008 03:22 AM
His career record says it all: 93 tests 8032 runs average 57 , 265 wickets. 26 centuries including 365 n.o which was a world record for almost 30-35 years before being broken by Lara when he score 375 and then Hayden 380, Lara again 400 and also more recently 374 by Jayawardane
RE:triple century
by Bald Head on Apr 03, 2008 08:50 AM
You are spot on CricFan01.
Even consider the records of recent years. Lara's 400 came against England while Hayden's was against a lowly Zimbabwe!
A couple of days back, there was a discussion in a TV channel as to whether Rahul Dravid is the all time greatest batsman of India.
One perspective I would like to offer is that when Sunil Gavaskar was playing, he had perhaps no other quality batsmen in the team except Vishwanath. Vishwanath was a stroke player and in almost 80% of the matches played by him, he would not build tall scores from the 50's and 70's he made. Major teams like West Indies, Australia, England, Pakistan were far superior and stronger teams those days. Only New Zealand and Srilanka could be considered equal or weak teams. Thus, Gavaskar was forced to adopt defensive and slow batting as a weapon to avoid as many defeats as possible in test matches played by India.
When Dravid has been in the team, he was surrounded by good and reliable batsmen like Sachin, Laxman, Ganguly, Sehwag etc. There was and is no need for Dravid to be extremely cautious or defensive in his approach. But he prefers to play a dour game.
In these circumstances, it will be unrealistic and unjustified to compare these two batsmen at all.
DRAVID record of 10000 runs is better than that of SACHIN in ODI. bcoz sachin opens the innings in odi whereas dravid comes lower down the order, so sachin gets more chance to score whereas dravid at times can not get time even to settle still he has scored 10000 runs. gr8 achievement.
RE:DRAVID record is better than that of SACHIN in ODI.
by Ramasami Naicker on Apr 02, 2008 11:40 PM
Sachin by being an opener is more at risk to losing his wicket than Dravid is. Also when Dravid comes in many times second string attack is in operation. Any everything said and done, comparisions are pointless, both along with Ganguly, Sehwag, Laxman, are great players along with Kumble, eventhough other than Sachin none of the players mentioned played OZ ODI, their greatness is not in doubt.
RE:DRAVID record is better than that of SACHIN in ODI.
by Indiannnnnnnnnnnnnnnn on Apr 02, 2008 11:33 PM
Dumbo !! Now don't start comparing greats. I accept Dravid is a genius, but on earth don't try comparing with Sachin. If you wanna try arguing, just check out their strike rates. Am pretty much sure Dravid could have consumed more deliveries than what sachin so far had in his ODI career..
