come on man..... who told pakistanis are uneducated.....the are very well educated on terrorism, their madarssa's tell them how to create terror attacks in india nad other countries... madarssa appears for many as school but in fact I think it is a school of religious preaches( they destroy young muslims and teach them that their religion only should exist in this world and other religions should be perished....such was their shelfish attitude) along with some terrorist lessons..................... come on young muslims ,understand that all religions have their right to live in this world.... dont encourage those who divert you away from this world.... pakistan is is really playing with the lives of our indian muslims who otherwise have a feeling of bhai-bhai with hindu brothers and sisters.
hey muslims of india( with good attitude to our country) wakeup... let us make their tricks in vain
RE:RE:pak
by Sudheendra K on Sep 26, 2007 12:57 AM
Excellent message Aravind...!! Keep it up... I really appreicate the way you have told to all people of India & Pakistan ( muslims ) the way to lead lives.
RE:pak
by swamy on Sep 26, 2007 08:56 AM
practically speaking with my head and not heart, indian muslims are Pakistanis in exile. They were supposed to move out in 1947, due to logistical issues they did not, Id call such people guests, but guests better be guests and behave gratefully.
RE:RE:pak
by manoj kumar on Sep 26, 2007 11:17 AM
by Sushant Jaiswal N.Delhi on Sep 26 /07
hi all ! there is no denying the fact that the stmnt. given by Shoaib malik during the presentation ceremony was highly deplorable. This shows how the muslims of this world are united and unanimus in the name of God. Even educated stuff who are technocrats are doing or involved in terrorist activities worldwide. Islam which doesn't propogates terrorism, but still they are carrying unsculpturlous acts in the name of Jehad. Even muslims of India (10 % can be the exception.But believe you me, this is really an exaggerated figure) also support Pakistan not only in cricket but in every sphere whether they accept it or not. But our govt. is responsible for this. Our dirty politics is also adding these ... Have you ever seen any financial assistance being given to people going to Vaishno Devi or Amarnath or any other pilgrimage. I'm saying it not as a Hindu but as an Indian. All Christians, Sikhs shd be given financial aid for going to Rome or various religious places like Manikaran Sahib etc. Why only to muslims for Haj ? Rarely do I remember any muslim supporting India in an Indo Pak match.If at all they support its not frm their heart. Its bcz they are residing here in India or they find themselves in such a situation where they wld be blasted verbally for the same. This is really unending debate.And this issue will always remain ambigous with lots of ???? As an Indian I invite all of u to give comment on this issue.
I think it is high time to PCB to send their criketers to fundamental religious schools to talibanise world cricket and hijack all future World Cups ahead.
RE:On Cricket, Religion and Shoib Malik
by Utpal Das on Sep 25, 2007 10:44 PM
Try to understand a joke that relates with the subject. Soaib Malik's statement was not proper and PCB should set some guidlines to their cricketers for what and how to speak in public.
RE:On Cricket, Religion and Shoib Malik
by Ricky Vohra on Sep 26, 2007 04:56 AM
u r absolutely right. God knows when these pakis will learn how 2 talk in public. How can he talk 4 all the muslims in the world as if all the muslims in the world r pakis..how FOOLISH...!
RE:On Cricket, Religion and Shoib Malik
by Prabhakar Mudunuru on Sep 26, 2007 10:43 AM
Arey yaar kya pakistan mein Hindus and christians nahi hai kya..Shayad Shoaib malik ki dimag ko watt lag gayi hogi.Leg or hand injury hone se cricket me vapas aa sakta hei...lekin Brain injured hone see woh ek hi kam kar sakta hi..woh hei pakestan Cricket ki team ka captain ban sakta hai.
RE:On Cricket, Religion and Shoib Malik
by indiansoul on Sep 25, 2007 09:46 PM
Arey teri to... why are you bring in religion into cricket and national issues. sale baingan.... irfan, yousuf, zaheer, munaf,kaif......r all muslims but they give their heart and soul to india...let it be pakistan or let it be any country..samjhe...this is the same for all the twenty crore people in india.
SUBJECT : SRI KRISHNA SANDHANAM jai hind, jai bharat mata, vande mataram. hi iam murthy a hindu brahmin hi mr dhoni jharkhand ratna iam proud of you. congratulations to you & whole india team. world champions are playing against world champions australia shortly. good luck all the best. keep winning momentum going. i have a suggestion. now another big win is pending. that is winning the hearts & make our neighbour realising & they should stop doing wrong things. iam refering pakistan. before mahabharat war srikrishna did sandhanam for the sake of mankind. now i suggest handover the cup to india primeminister with 50percent prize money let p.m. -india handover the same to mr.mushraf with strict urging that no indian public across the country should die because of terrerism & jehad. the life of indian public is most important than prize money and medal. also every indian should visit j&k peacefully with family without any hesitation.we have every rights to visit our j&k it's ours. let india prime minister share the cup&prize money with mushraf urging that with immediate effect pakistan must must stop&encouraging terrorist activities. handover azar masood & dawood ibrahim without any conditions. now mr.dhoni already we are champions whole world knows. now try this for the sake of human kind. let pakistan realise what they are.a country with lot of poverty, only cricket & military. give them last chance.mahabharat is miln yrs be4 jehad
You all are stupid people Shoaib Malik first said, I thank all Muslims.. that means all muslims who keep fast and prayed for Pakistan and then he said, I want to say sorry to our countrymen who pinned up their hopes on Pakistan. There is no hide that Pakistan players are worst communicator in English. Most of them are almost undeducated. Hardly anyone in the Pakistan team can speak proper English. So people and media missunderstood it. Even Shoaib Malik wife is from Hyderabad, India. To again hear the interview, please listen it again
RE:dd
by ganajivenmanraj seven on Sep 26, 2007 10:50 AM
Please do listen to the interview again. Mr. tamil troublers, you will hang your head in shame this time for sure. This has nothing to do with how good your English language is but your warped thinking. Shoaib need not and should not have uttered the word Muslim at all. Its a world cup and you are on spotlight. Etiquette is part of presenting one self on such occasions. Shoaib was a loser here too.
RE:dd
by Aravind sai on Sep 25, 2007 10:07 PM
come on man..... who told pakistanis are uneducated.....the are very well educated on terrorism, their madarssa's tell them how to create terror attacks in india nad other countries... madarssa appears for many as school but in fact I think it is a school of religious preaches( they destroy young muslims and teach them that their religion only should exist in this world and other religions should be perished....such was their shelfish attitude) along with some terrorist lessons..................... come on young muslims ,understand that all religions have their right to live in this world.... dont encourage those who divert you away from this world.... pakistan is is really playing with the lives of our indian muslims who otherwise have a feeling of bhai-bhai with hindu brothers and sisters.
hey muslims of india( with good attitude to our country) wakeup... let us make their tricks in vain
you idiot pakis, u dont imagine ur self as the players of ISLAM, we indian muslims unite together to oursoil(INDIA)if there is any threat... stupid shoib, make ur apology to ur countrymen, not to MUSLIMS.dont do cheep politics. If atall there is war between INDIA & PAK 20CRORE patriotic INDIAN MUSLIMS will crush u stupids.
RE:SHOIB MALIK=FOOL,,STUPID&UN FIT CAPTAIN
by nilesh d on Sep 25, 2007 08:36 PM
i agree with u . infact ICC should take note of this and take action against malik. he was not representating muslims, only pakistan. does he think he(or pakistan) has the copyrights to all the muslims worldwide. nonsense n very cheap behaviour.
RE:SHOIB MALIK=FOOL,,STUPID&UN FIT CAPTAIN
by Roeas Bassam K. on Sep 25, 2007 09:14 PM
Indian Muslims are no longer the supporter of the Pakistan Cricket Team...Muslims have matured well to integrate into the Indian Fabric.Why support the Pakistanis, when our heroes irrespective of religion are playing Cricket.Muslims in India have contributed in almost all fields.It's high time that Hindus accept Muslims as their brothers and live the life peacefully without any Bombers.
RE:SHOIB MALIK=FOOL,,STUPID&UN FIT CAPTAIN
by ganajivenmanraj seven on Sep 26, 2007 11:05 AM
I for one know a lot of my Muslim friends who are putting a lot of effort to remove stains of partition and their alliance with India. They are as much Indians today as any one of us born and brought up here in India. Pakistan has been hell bent to create rift between us here in India be it our day-to-day life or the recently won twenty20 world cup. We need a lot of mohamed rayees here to neutralize Pakistan. Hats off to you Mr Mohamed rayees . May a lot of you come forward and portray the true picture of India where you are happy and prosperous.
RE:SHOIB MALIK=FOOL,,STUPID&UN FIT CAPTAIN
by jitendra patil on Sep 26, 2007 08:00 AM
Thanks Mohd bhai thats the spirit for indian b indian always and not a muslim.I really impressed with ur view.Coz at leat half of our indian teammates are muslims but they are indian first.Good and best attitude.Keep it up for india our INDIA.
RE:RE:SHOIB MALIK=FOOL,,STUPID&UN FIT CAPTAIN
by Ravi Dasgupta on Sep 25, 2007 08:00 PM
Hats off to you Rayees bhai. You are a true Indian and a true Muslim too.
RE:SHOIB MALIK=FOOL,,STUPID&UN FIT CAPTAIN
by sami on Sep 25, 2007 09:20 PM
i stand by what you say mohammad bhai , hope all muslims of india think like us
RE:SHOIB MALIK=FOOL,,STUPID&UN FIT CAPTAIN
by free mind on Sep 25, 2007 10:27 PM
Thats gr8 to see a sensible thread of posting than the normal rediff sponsored hatred messages against religions and followers. Jai India
RE:SHOIB MALIK=FOOL,,STUPID&UN FIT CAPTAIN
by swaroop pai on Sep 25, 2007 07:47 PM
This is how an INDIAN speaks and not a religion as the paki captain wanted to give a so called emotional speech "apology to all the MUSLIMS". Why mix religion and sports? Why think that you are a hindu/muslim/christian/sikh or whatever, befor thinking I AM AN INDIAN! Well said Mohammed bhai!
RE:SHOIB MALIK=FOOL,,STUPID&UN FIT CAPTAIN
by Chris on Sep 25, 2007 08:19 PM
I agree. I'm a malayali christian and I say i'm indian first. India is a secular democracy and a free country. We believe that all Indians unite regardless of religion or color. I think the pakistanis still live in the stone age.
RE:SHOIB MALIK=FOOL,,STUPID&UN FIT CAPTAIN
by Sandeep khaitan on Sep 25, 2007 08:10 PM
Right said friend,... so refreshing... teh way the pakis and irfan spoke yesterday was so sickening. The notorious pakistani captain said all pakistanins and muslims... that was enogh to indicate that 20 crores muslims support was taken for granted by the pakistanis.. and irfan and afridi.. starting off with allah allah.. when was the last hindu skipper who started by ram ram... these pakistanins are sick people.. should be rooted out completely
RE:SHOIB MALIK=FOOL,,STUPID&UN FIT CAPTAIN
by ASHRAF MATEEN on Sep 25, 2007 11:06 PM
The generation of Indian muslims born around 1947 indeed had a %u201Csoft corner%u201D for Pakistan as many of their close relatives migrated to Pakistan. But soon the bubble busted when they came to know about the treatment they received in Pakistan. Those who migrated were not treated as %u201CMuslims%u201D but as %u201CIndians%u201D. Even during the wars we had with Pakistan, there bullets and bombs were not hitting the %u201CHindus%u201D, they were targeting the %u201CIndians%u201D , even if he is Veer Abdul Hameed.
The, later generations of Indian Muslims who were born in Independent and Secular India,has always been %u201CLoyal%u201D to their motherland. There are also a very large number of present generations Indian Muslim, including myself, who even hate Pakistan when it calls itself the representative of Islam. Religion is nobody%u2019s personal property and every individual is its representative, irrespective of the country and region. What is the contribution of Pakistan to Islam - Muslims killing Muslims? Or the partition of Bangladesh defying the Islamic principle of Universal Brotherhood?
It is just a myth that Pakistan was created as an Islamic state. It was the Greed of Power by M.A. Jinnah coupled with the British conspiracy to weaken a potential World Super Power that led to the formation of Pakistan.
Now my question to any %u201Cunfortunate Indian Muslim%u201D who still supports Pakistan in cricket matches %u2013 Why don%u2019t you support Bangladesh or UAE? Just because for sure you know that it will end up loosing the game. Wak
RE:RE:SHOIB MALIK=FOOL,,STUPID&UN FIT CAPTAIN
by ASHRAF MATEEN on Sep 25, 2007 11:10 PM
The generation of Indian muslims born around 1947 indeed had a "soft corner" for Pakistan as many of their close relatives migrated to Pakistan. But soon the bubble busted when they came to know about the treatment they received in Pakistan. Those who migrated were not treated as "Muslims" but as "Indians". Even during the wars we had with Pakistan, there bullets and bombs were not hitting the "Hindus", they were targeting the "Indians", even if he was Veer Abdul Hameed.
The, later generations of Indian Muslims who were born in Independent and Secular India,has always been "Loyal" to their motherland. There are also a very large number of present generations Indian Muslim, including myself, who even hate Pakistan when it calls itself the representative of Islam. Religion is nobody's personal property and every individual is its representative, irrespective of the country and region. What is the contribution of Pakistan to Islam - Muslims killing Muslims? Or the partition of Bangladesh defying the Islamic principle of Universal Brotherhood?
It is just a myth that Pakistan was created as an Islamic state. It was the Greed of Power by M.A. Jinnah coupled with the British conspiracy to weaken a potential World Super Power that led to the formation of Pakistan.
Now my question to any "unfortunate Indian Muslim" who still supports Pakistan in cricket matches" Why don't you support Bangladesh or UAE? Just because for sure you know that it will end up loosing the game.
RE:RE:RE:SHOIB MALIK=FOOL,,STUPID&UN FIT CAPTAIN
by ASHRAF MATEEN on Sep 25, 2007 11:12 PM
Wake up Dear Pseudo-Religious, please set your alignment right and contribute whatever you can to make India a developed country by 2020.
RE:SHOIB MALIK=FOOL,,STUPID&UN FIT CAPTAIN
by raj on Sep 25, 2007 11:22 PM
very well man its better for him to shut his mouth because just because of this kind of politics talk INDIAN people has issues on this SO PLZ STOP TALKING BULLSHIT SHOAIB MALIK PLZ TALK SOME THING SENSE better not to use those words again
RE:SHOIB MALIK=FOOL,,STUPID&UN FIT CAPTAIN
by Giridhar Ganeshan on Sep 26, 2007 01:03 AM
ONE CAN HARDLY FIND ONE USEFUL COMMENT OUT HERE. PPL HAVE BRAINS IN THEIR ASSES TO MIX UP SUCH STUPID THINGS. AND HERE ONE FOOL IS TALKING ABOUT INDIA AND PAKISTAN HISTORY IN 1947. WHAT THE FK IS WRONG WITH ALL OF YOU. IDIOTS, BREAK YOUR HEAD TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY BRAINS INSIDE.
RE:Younis & Afridi, ICL welcomes you
by ashok pai on Sep 25, 2007 07:52 PM
i think anyone and everyone should be welcome in the ICl , not only them. c'mon pak did play well in the finals and through the tourney. both india and pak did exceptionally well, beyond the dreams of thier respective citizens. pak shouldnt really curse at misbah, because he gave them hope in the first palce. had he been out for that marginal lbw decision in rpsingh's over, it would have been curtains for pak.
RE:Whats religion got to do with cricket??
by Crick fan on Sep 26, 2007 02:40 PM
I thiught cricket itself is a religion. When you are playing what Isalm, Hindu, Christaia or Jewdiasm?
