It may be difficult to give Ganguly back to the post. It's better if Sachin agrees to take the post again and make Dhoni/Yubraj his vice.
In order to proceed to 2011 WC, Indian selectors should remove Dravid without delaying a second. Particularly looking to him and in the WC 07 (India's worst history).
It has been proven several times Dravid is totally failed as Captain inside the field and outside too.
a catch was converted to a 6. Lets say who was it Piyush had manged to hold on instead of touching the rope or there was a better fieldr there, Mascharanus was out, and the over would be so differnt. Yes the decision proved wrong after a fielder proved himself bad.
RE:RE:Stupid commnets from article
by Faceless Spirit on Sep 07, 2007 10:59 PM
(contd) in to a team as captain. His success was because he motivated the gr8s to produce their best. But for Dravid, he has the same team to start with. He wanted to make a batsman out of a bowler. He wantede to promote left handers like Pathan and Raina as batsmen just to block Ganguly's entry. The youngsters like Kaif Balaji Dhoni all started failing. He ruined all options. He destruyed Pathan and could not motivate Sehwag. Inspite of having such a nice team he turned it into pathetic loser. His performance as captain improved only when Ganguly had to be invited back in the team. While Dravid was carried on by Ganguly inspite of his pathetic slow batting and even as a wicketkeeper, major contribution of Dravid was stabbling at the back of Ganguly in his hard days. Ganguly's contribution is above average in Indian cricket. Give due credit to Ganguli. Learn to give credit to a Bengali if he deserves it. Repeat 2005 Calcutta here( celebrating SA win against India just because Ganguly was dropped)to bring people back in their senses.
RE:on ganguli captaincy by Faceless Spirit on Sep 07, 2007 09:58 PM U low caste how audacious u can be to call Saurav Ganguly as Gangu. If he is gangu then you and your forefathers are G-A-N-D-U. U said he has given the cup to Australians while ur biological half brother (ur mom knows but dad dont) Dravid lost the game to Bangladesh and even could not go to the Second round. When would u regional guys stop bashing Saurav/ Till the time you go to your grave??
Rahul the Brutus is responsible for all speculation regarding Tendulkars retirement. He did not allow Sachin to play for just 4 runs to get a double century. He conspired with Chappel Dungu and More to ruin Saurav and steal the lime light. He is a great traitor and selfish to the core.
Hey guys, Going by what happened on the field the other day, I thought it was a good decission to bowl Yuvraj in the last over.
Powar's 8th and the 9th over went for over 19 runs, and Agarkar's last over went for over 16 runs. Ganguly's last 2 overs went for over 30. Tendulkar had just bowled the 49th over. Now Yuvraj's last but over went for only 9 runs. Considering this situation, I guess Dravid went for the correct decission.
India's inablity to have death bowlers resulted in Dravid trying out Yuvraj. This doesn't warrent for branding Captaincy as poor.
We should appretiate him for the fact that he had the guts to accept that it was a poor decission going by the result.
The headline of this article is very misleading. Again a classic example of twisting and churning statements to belittle a player.
Dravid said and I quote "Going by the result it looks like a bad decission".
Going by the result is a very key pharse in this statement which most people will forget / omit.
This means he has accepted it to be a bad move in retrospective. However he hasn't commented that it was entirely a bad move.
So I would like to request Rediff / other journalist not to engage in destructive journalism rather they should involve themselves in a more constructive one.
But I am sure this isn't going to happen. As spicy / destructive journalism sells.
RE:Good decission made poor by some good batting.
by amit sharma on Sep 07, 2007 04:16 PM
rightly said dear, actually now in journalism, just simple graduate, having 6month -1 yr diploma persons are coming who r neither sincere, nor matured, not intelligent, specially in electronic media, worthless representative r most of them, thats why it is not only baised but also engaged in money making by hook r crook, n rediff persons r one of them
RE:Good decission made poor by some good batting.
by Ravi Kiran on Sep 08, 2007 02:06 AM
well the fact is Dravid is by no means in the same league as Ganguly when it comes to captaincy.Dravid has made many many bluders in this tour of UK only to be saved by some brilliant displays. Its about time that India selection committe starts looking for a future captian . The final test @ Oval is another illustration of some of the worst decisions taken. Change please !! - cheers, Ravi
RE:Good decission made poor by some good batting.
by summer on Sep 07, 2007 08:26 PM
I do not understand the sense of using secondary bowler in 50 over match, while we have two specialist spinners. Why bring in Yuvraj or Tendulkar- those two batsmen making the backbone of batting strength. In five day match I can understand use of all rounder as a back up bowler. In my opinion when scoring rate is of significant importance, it does take a toll on batting performance of these two batsmen when they bowl which is not their primary expertise.
I would expect all five designated bowlers well prepared to give their best in 50 over inning.
RE:Kick Dravid and Yuvraj please.
by Kanchi Thalaivan on Sep 07, 2007 03:07 PM
mr.or ms. prasanna, what is the reason? tell the reason, then we will discuss and finally you will come to know who will be kicked out!!
you are talking about that dravid taken the decision for one over, what about gangu who has taken the decision in 2003 world cup final after winning the toss!!!! what ricky said that day, had he won the toss he would have chosen batting first. without winning the toss ricky got the award ie whatever he thougt. these all how happens? because of ganguli bold decision in final 2003 world cup. experts were telling ganguli did mistake and given the cup to australian. you are talking about single over, what you say about the whole match decision and that too on big event which came for Indian once in 20 years!
RE:on ganguli captaincy
by Shyam Sen on Sep 07, 2007 12:53 PM
Gangu baiters again ! Finds no opportunity to miss spitting venom on Gangu Dada ! Pity on Gangu Dada !
RE:on ganguli captaincy
by Neelakanta Pallu on Sep 07, 2007 02:35 PM
Shyam Sen, U R a true bengali. You can not see the nonsense written by Dravid baiters in this same forum. U will see only Gognu baiters. Great keep it up.!
RE:RE:on ganguli captaincy
by radio mirchi on Sep 07, 2007 12:24 PM
Absolutely. Ganguly gave the cup to Aussies. Most foolish captaincy. By the by he is an average captain. He was successful just because Dravid,Tendu,Kumble,Yuvi,Kaif etc were giving extraordinary performances.
RE:RE:on ganguli captaincy
by Buddu Pandya on Sep 07, 2007 08:28 PM
with ganguli as a captain we reached the final.with dravid as a captain we were given farewell at the preliminary round!What were you doing at that time?eating mirchi....
RE:on ganguli captaincy
by Sanjeev Verma on Sep 07, 2007 08:51 PM
Why did not Ganguly play well against SL in this world cup. We were chasing 250 runs. It was an achievable total. No one except Dravid contributed in that match. Others had already spent their energy by hitting boundaries against Bermuda.
RE:on ganguli captaincy
by Buddu Pandya on Sep 07, 2007 09:43 PM
Why dravid could not rescue that match if he were that great! He could not even play against BNG or Bermuda! An internationally acclaimed batsman was trying to gain his form in the world cup that too by experimentation! How great a batsman and a captain one could ever be? His stupid decision and his inability to lead the team form front have costed India and Indians much. Dravid was never a role model in the team. He cold never inspires the team mates. He created problems and schisms in the team because of his vested interests. The recent success that India is getting is al because we have got sachin back. Dravid has no role in it. At the best he is a spoil-master.
RE:on ganguli captaincy
by Sanjeev Verma on Sep 07, 2007 10:01 PM
Dravid came very late against Bermuda and he was not out with 2or 4 runs. Players like Dravid do not waste their energy against Bermuda. Even SA lost agaisnt Bangladesh. It can happen to the best team in the world. However, SL was must win match for India.
RE:RE:on ganguli captaincy
by Buddu Pandya on Sep 08, 2007 12:32 AM
whooooooooooo what a excuse man...the operation is successful but the patient is dead!I have pity for the paucity of your logic.
RE:on ganguli captaincy
by ritwik majumder on Sep 07, 2007 12:56 PM
If someone tells Ganguly's captaincy was bad it means he doesn't understand cricket.My dear friend he is appreciated by globally. As far as performance is concern he did 23 tons which is still highest after Tendulkar in India. More over that he scored more than 10,000 runs. So Dravid fans it is better to keep quite. Today Dravid is in Indian ODI team because of Ganguly
RE:on ganguli captaincy
by sharath on Sep 07, 2007 04:39 PM
joke of the century : Dravid is in ODI yeam bez of gangoo!!! person talking this should be sent straight to mental hospital
RE:RE:on ganguli captaincy
by Buddu Pandya on Sep 07, 2007 08:38 PM
I think you should be put first in the hospital. Come out of regional ghetto and think with an open mind. At initial period dravid was never used to be a consistent and fast scoring player. Look at the stats (the one you guys love most!)He has still incurred that habit e.g. 11 in 96 balls. However, due to repeated wicket keeping, his eye sight improved and eventually he played some brilliant knocks. Unfortunately, now that so called wall is nothing but a big hole-an unmatched, politically and regionally backed chassis.
RE:on ganguli captaincy
by Kanchi Thalaivan on Sep 07, 2007 01:10 PM
globally appreciate for loosing in all finals during his captaincy. dravid also 10000 plus. dravid may be near to gangu as far as tons concerned though he is not a opener. how dravid in Indian team because of gangu? really i dont know!!
RE:on ganguli captaincy
by kumar unni on Sep 07, 2007 05:23 PM
I agree with you. Dravid is in Indian team only because of Ganguly, when he was failing with his bat, Ganguly place him as wicket keeper batsman, otherwise he would have been thrown out of team.
RE:RE:on ganguli captaincy
by Sanjeev Verma on Sep 07, 2007 08:57 PM
This another lie. In fact, Ganguly spoiled Dravid's career by including Dravid as a wicket keeper. the fact is that Dravid's career strike rate is comparable to that of Ganguly's. Dravid record in ODI is much better considering the fact that he comes very low in batting order. he has also completed 10,00 runs in ODI matches. It is ridiculous to say that Ganguly saved Dravid's career.
RE:on ganguli captaincy
by bharat on Sep 07, 2007 01:14 PM
1. Ganguly has been one of India's best captain. He deserves to be honoured for that.
2. Despite his mistakes, Dravid, on the whole has been doing a decent job. Every captain improves with time.
3. Every captain makes mistakes. Even those having the reputation of being good captains are known to have made mistakes. Ganguly did make mistakes during his tenure and so is Dravid. One should not be unduly worried of the captain making mistakes because this is unavoidable. If you change a captain just for making mistakes, remember that the one who will take over will also continue to do so, since he is also a human. Dravid's captaincy did have contribution in India's victories. So did Ganguly during his tenure.
4. Let us not try to belittle Dravid to make Ganguly appear better and vice versa. Each captain has a different approach to the game. In the end it is the result that matters. Statistics show that both Ganguly and Dravid are neck to neck so far as results are concerned.
RE:RE:on ganguli captaincy
by Buddu Pandya on Sep 07, 2007 08:41 PM
Intl cricket is not the ground to get the maturity as a captain.Let him get matured with his decission,junta will accept him.Meanwhile he can start playing for his state.Better late than never.
RE:on ganguli captaincy
by radio mirchi on Sep 07, 2007 02:17 PM
1. If Ganguly is one of the best captaincs so is Dravid. It is nonsense to say Ganguly is appreciated as captain globally. May be by his fans. Fortunately for Gangu the team as a whole was peaking during his captaincy. Dravid's team is now on a downslide. I did not say he is bad but only an average captain. But I will correct myself rating him as a good captain 2. Yes agree he is a better one day bat than Dravid thou Dravid is not far behind 3. I appreciate Ganguly on some terms like he brought the team up from brink of disaster, and formed a future team 4. There is no way you can take credit out of Dravid. 5. Even I give due credit to Ganguly for his captaincy, his batting, his improved performance etc. 6. Unfortunately sometimes I have to reply in the same fashion as Dravid's bashers are doing. Taking some petty incidences like 11 runs out of 96 balls, etc. For me Ganguly as captain is good and Dravid even better
RE:on ganguli captaincy
by Sanjeev Verma on Sep 07, 2007 07:07 PM
I do not know why Ganguly supporters always try to find fault In Dravid's captaincy. Sometimes, it appears to me that Ganguly's supporters think that Ganguly was a perfect captain, who never made any mistake during his captaincy. Ganguly was a good captain and so is Dravid. Both had a fair degree of success. It seems to me that Dravid is more successful in test mathces since he is a good planner and thinker. ODI matches work on instincts and do not always need much planning.
RE:RE:on ganguli captaincy
by Buddu Pandya on Sep 07, 2007 08:47 PM
There are only two perfect persons in the world-one who is unborn and one who is dead. We do not expect dravid to be the same for that reason. What worries me is his batting skill. He is no more dependable. The reason could be the burden of captaincy. He is making such kind decision which will put someone in laughter more and less in anger. It is immaturity.
RE:on ganguli captaincy
by Faceless Spirit on Sep 07, 2007 09:58 PM
U low caste how audacious u can be to call Saurav Ganguly as Gangu. If he is gangu then you and your forefathers are G-A-N-D-U. U said he has given the cup to Australians while ur biological half brother (ur mom knows but dad dont) Dravid lost the game to Bangladesh and even could not go to the Second round. When would u regional guys stop bashing Saurav/ Till the time you go to your grave??
1. Winning the test series beating the world no 2 team in their own yard after a gap of 21 long years. 2. Coming back from the brink of disaster 1-3 to equal the ODI series 3-3 and hope winning 4-3. 3. May be there were some errors committed, but you could motivate the team to perform. Your faith in Tendulkar has proved to be crucial in this series. Also you managed to get a better fielding and bowling performance in last couple of matches. Still we need to improve. 4. You have proved that u could get best out of a poor ODI side 5. Your taking Uttappa in last ODI proved critical in winning this match and equaling series. 6. Best of luck for a double series win on a foreign soil
RE:Great Going Dravid !
by Buddu Pandya on Sep 08, 2007 12:27 AM
What is dravids contribution in that? Sachin did most of the job and some by ganguli. Dravid is a spoil-sport. Dont worry, very soon dravid will be going back to ranji to prove his form. He will never be able to come back in intl cricket because he does not have that fighting attitude .A timid and innocent bystander. That trio (Chappal-More-Dravid) destroyed the team and its spirit. When the other two disappeared, the third one will also be vanished eventually. Get some air, man for your drums. It does not make any sound any more.
